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Title: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: WEZEL on January 03, 2014, 11:02:44 AM
I mostly fly the La La I know, I know noob ride, easy mode yadda yadda  but it's my ride of choice so go suck and egg  :neener:

Question is to those that have flown it or do now, when is it  taking hits from the direct 6.....I get no tail damage or pilot wound but 2 guns will be hit  :headscratch: I know the La has glass guns and they are the first things to go poof on any kind of nose hit from any angel but from 6 o'clock? , I am going to start filming my sorties to get some film of it.
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 03, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
You, as a designated fanboi and unicorn suit wearer of the La7 clan, have nothing to stand on in terms of complaints, 'cept maybe the perfume are are forced to wear is a bit too raunchy.

Now, sit down and be quiet.   ;)
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: Tilt on January 03, 2014, 12:48:16 PM
I to, as badge wearing La7 fan, would like all 3 cannons modelled separately for damage modelling.
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: Debrody on January 03, 2014, 01:52:32 PM
I mostly fly the La La I know, I know noob ride, easy mode yadda yadda  but it's my ride of choice so go suck and egg  :neener:
lol
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: Randy1 on January 03, 2014, 02:03:38 PM
You would think with no head armor plate, pilot wounds from the 6 would be common.
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: WEZEL on January 03, 2014, 02:52:58 PM
You, as a designated fanboi and unicorn suit wearer of the La7 clan, have nothing to stand on in terms of complaints, 'cept maybe the perfume are are forced to wear is a bit too raunchy.

Now, sit down and be quiet.   ;)

No Complaint just asking a question.. I cant help it if you feel intimidated that  my Unicorn suit makes my butt looks sexy  :bolt:
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: Karnak on January 03, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
You would think with no head armor plate, pilot wounds from the 6 would be common.
It has head plate armor.  That glass behind the pilot is bulletproof just like the glass in front of the pilot.
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: Blooz on January 03, 2014, 03:30:31 PM
I mostly fly the La La I know, I know noob ride, easy mode yadda yadda  but it's my ride of choice so go suck and egg  :neener:

Question is to those that have flown it or do now, when is it  taking hits from the direct 6.....I get no tail damage or pilot wound but 2 guns will be hit  :headscratch: I know the La has glass guns and they are the first things to go poof on any kind of nose hit from any angel but from 6 o'clock? , I am going to start filming my sorties to get some film of it.

Your film won't do any good. You need the film from the shooter to see what happened.
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: bustr on January 03, 2014, 05:33:41 PM
Try the pervert damage test.

Create a custom arena and turn off kill shooter. Up your La7 on the runway and sit in it while a friend ups a jeep. Have him do one shot ping tests to see exactly what's happening while filming. Pervert did this with the Fw190 D9 to show the radiator damage modeling was pita. Do the same thing flying level with the friend on your six. He can use the Yak 9T and tap out single shots with the single .50 cal on the hood while you both film.

You might test MG151\20 single shots from a 109 or even from the Ki61 Ho-5. They have more arc than the hisso, ShVAK. Type 99, or Ho-5 are somewhere about the MG151.

Because of relative motion between your two planes in a 6 chase orientation. Your enemy is lobbing rounds in an arc ahead of your La7 for you to fly to. The damage modeling may favor rounds hitting in the front 1\4 of your fuselage while little to no damage to your woody posterior. A single 20mm would make a mess of the top two guns while protecting the engine if the initial damage modeled hit rational is the guns and support structures go first, engine second.

An offline static test would show you a damage count down list visa observation. Too bad you cannot enable shooting from gun position in bombers while on the ground. Then you could use an He111 to single shot test a 20mm after taxiing up and parking. The wirbel would be overkill. Or would it be possible to enable the La7 on a carrier and use a manned 20mm there in a custom arena with killshooter disabled?

Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: --)SF---- on January 07, 2014, 05:34:42 PM
I get no tail damage or pilot wound but 2 guns will be hit  :headscratch: I know the La has glass guns and they are the first things to go poof on any kind of nose hit from any angel but from 6 o'clock?

As a frequent Lala peelot, I would also get many guns hits from shots fired from the six.  Been like that forever.

Two of the three cannons share the same belt feed, so a hit to either one takes out both cannons the way it is modeled ingame. (don't remember if the left gun and center gun or the right and center that are linked.
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: Butcher on January 07, 2014, 10:10:47 PM
As a frequent Lala peelot, I would also get many guns hits from shots fired from the six.  Been like that forever.

Two of the three cannons share the same belt feed, so a hit to either one takes out both cannons the way it is modeled ingame. (don't remember if the left gun and center gun or the right and center that are linked.

I never got pilot wounded in an LA, but my guns always got shot out. Its one of those mysteries that will never be understood. I filmed most of my sorties, but it seems like its always "the other person shot from above, below" from what that person see's on their film.

What looks like a dead 6 shot, is not what the other person see's, I guess from the Aces film viewer don't even bother looking at your film, you have to look at the other persons film to understand what you did wrong.
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: texasfighter on January 13, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
I volunteer to shoot Wezel from the 6 and film it. In fact, I'd be happy to do that in the MA!!  :banana:
Tex78
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: WEZEL on January 13, 2014, 07:28:32 PM
I volunteer to shoot Wezel from the 6 and film it. In fact, I'd be happy to do that in the MA!!  :banana:
Tex78

Well if you ever bring that M-jug down from 30k at the strats, catch me if you can  :t
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: cobia38 on January 13, 2014, 09:41:08 PM
As a frequent Lala peelot, I would also get many guns hits from shots fired from the six.  Been like that forever.

Two of the three cannons share the same belt feed, so a hit to either one takes out both cannons the way it is modeled ingame. (don't remember if the left gun and center gun or the right and center that are linked.

 left and center
Title: Re: LA7 and gun damage.
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on January 13, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
You, as a designated fanboi and unicorn suit wearer of the La7 clan, have nothing to stand on in terms of complaints, 'cept maybe the perfume are are forced to wear is a bit too raunchy.

Now, sit down and be quiet.   ;)
:rofl