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Title: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 08, 2014, 04:05:57 PM
I fly 1/4 and 1/5 scale aircraft for different manufactures and this weekend I get to maiden a new Corsair. It has a Saito 84cc Radial gas engine that sounds pretty real. Its a 7.1 ft wingspan, 32 pound aircraft with rotating retracts, nav and landing lights, retractable tail wheel, and a 23 x 12 three blade prop. :rock

You can see the build thread here http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2071116 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2071116)

Video of engine running on its test stand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jf6fZq7Czc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jf6fZq7Czc)

Video of light package
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mumxBzqFDhM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mumxBzqFDhM)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/t6395405-89-thumb-cockpit1.jpg?d=1389128272)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/t6395408-12-thumb-engine1.jpg?d=1389128401)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/t6395411-143-thumb-fue1.jpg?d=1389128401)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/t6395416-73-thumb-prop1.jpg?d=1389128447)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/t6395412-183-thumb-fuse2.jpg?d=1389128401)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/t6395413-51-thumb-fuse3.jpg?d=1389128401)
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: homersipes on January 08, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
thats a sharp looking bird  :aok   :airplane: How did you form the lenses for your lights?  I love how those engines sound :rock  the big moki radial really sounds nice.  I have been working on a 1/4 scale piper pawnee for like 2 years now which should be done but been doing other stuff around the house.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: Randy1 on January 08, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
Wow! That is slick.  I use to fly a lot when I was younger.  Great hobby.  The changes in the last few years is just about wild.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: Tr1gg22 on January 09, 2014, 03:53:09 PM
That is bad!!
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 09, 2014, 04:23:19 PM
Thanks fellas, I can't wait to here that radial in the air along with her simulated gun port whistles. Gonna be cool  :cool:
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: pipz on January 09, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
Magnificent!  :aok
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: Rich46yo on January 09, 2014, 09:26:14 PM
Oh thats a beauty. Do post the flight video.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: B3YT on January 10, 2014, 01:55:15 AM
nice , are you going to "weather" it up in any way ? I used to go to model shows are the nicest kit I saw was a Hawker Hurricane 1/4 that had been weathered . It looked nicer than the brand new spitfire next to it . The guy had even "patched" the fabric to make it look like battle repairs . 
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: Nypsy on January 10, 2014, 08:41:15 AM
Beautiful!  :aok
And the engine sounded great!
If you don't mind, how much does an engine like that cost?
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 15, 2014, 03:20:52 PM
Found a small video of the engine running in the plane for a taxi test on Charlotte Aeromodelers Facebook page. Sounds so cool.
https://www.facebook.com/CharlotteAeromodelersClub (https://www.facebook.com/CharlotteAeromodelersClub)
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: MiloMorai on January 15, 2014, 05:42:18 PM
COndor, you haven't told us how the flight went. It didn't crash, did it?
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 16, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
No, Tried to fly it last Saturday but had 10-15 cross winds and very gusty. Just wasn't worth the risk. Sunday was rainy. This coming Sunday is shaping up for a flight though. Weather just hasn't been very cooperative with us the last few weeks.
Maidens on these are just nerve racking. Since you never know what she is going to do on the first flight you at least try and put the odds in your favor with weather.

I am sure she will do fine. Its just better on the first flight getting trims setup if you are not fighting gusty winds. 
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: Kenne on January 16, 2014, 01:33:48 PM
with the wind, couldn't you do CV take offs?  :D
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 16, 2014, 01:51:18 PM
Yeah, If we could turn the field into the wing I would be golden. Crosswinds aren't really that much of a problem (within reason anyway) Fair weather pilots don't get a lot of stick time in the RC world so you either adapt to the conditions or stay home. Normally, I would fly in the conditions last week but a maiden on $6000.00 with the work involved is more than enough stress for one flight.

Taking off is only part of the deal. Landing is the real pressure point. Once I have a couple of landings with flaps and gear extended to see how she does it becomes just another airplane. Until then, its an unknown.

You have to find that perfect combination of speed brakes, flaps, throttle, and glide slope. (obviously) But it's much easier in a real plane than it is standing on the ground using your instincts and judgement.

Normally I will do some stall testing at higher altitude before I attempt the first landing and gusty wind just reaks havoc on my judgement of how the plane is reacting.

Now that I am done whining about it, I am looking forward to this weekends flight. Video to come later.  
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: MiloMorai on January 16, 2014, 05:09:57 PM
Thanks for the update. I don't RC but the brothers do and every time they try a new a/c they are a nervous wreck.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 16, 2014, 08:59:21 PM
Heres a few pics of my mustang in Man O War paint

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/a6421995-0-mustang1.jpg)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/a6421997-98-mustang2.jpg)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/8/5/4/5/0/a6421998-194-mustang3.jpg)
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: Kenne on January 16, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
ok 2 blades for the AAF and 3 for the Navy?!! :huh
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 17, 2014, 06:47:57 AM
ok 2 blades for the AAF and 3 for the Navy?!! :huh

I know, Right!  4 blade props don't work very well in the RC world. They need 3-4000 RPM with lots of pitch to operate. Our engines turn 8000. IF someone made a gear reduction drive they would work well
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: homersipes on January 17, 2014, 10:52:12 PM
I think it was Byron Originals made a reduction drive for a mustang back in the 90s http://www.ebay.com/itm/Byron-Originals-Byrodrive-35cc-quadra-Motor-Engine-byron-originals-/321261836830?nma=true&si=0CZO9X8Sr0SKYlR5rahKppjKne8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
never got to see one in action though
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: hotcoffe on January 18, 2014, 04:17:54 AM
cool best of luck with maiden flight and have fun.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 18, 2014, 08:55:45 AM
I think it was Byron Originals made a reduction drive for a mustang back in the 90s http://www.ebay.com/itm/Byron-Originals-Byrodrive-35cc-quadra-Motor-Engine-byron-originals-/321261836830?nma=true&si=0CZO9X8Sr0SKYlR5rahKppjKne8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
never got to see one in action though

I used to fly the Byron Mustang back in the 80s and the F16. They were the top of the heap back in the day.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: homersipes on January 18, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
yeah I remember the pony when I was a kid  used to love that plane haha :rock what ever happened to them?
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 18, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
The Old Man died and the company is now making Byron fuels and patio furniture. They sold all the original molds to a company called Iron Bay but the guy who owns it now is a real jerk.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: homersipes on January 19, 2014, 08:53:52 AM
oh thats too bad, they had quite a few nice looking birds as I remember.  My dad has the 4.2 ci engine that they had, the muffler mounts to the back of it and acts as the motor mount as well, pretty cool set up.  Are you running DLE gasoline jobs in your big planes?
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: COndor06 on January 19, 2014, 10:24:49 AM
I have many DLE engines. I know the engine your describing with the exhaust engine mount. It looks like a re-entry vehicle.
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: homersipes on January 19, 2014, 08:28:23 PM
yes indeed it is quite strange how it worked, has clamps that go around the muffler that bolts to the formers, there were 2 mounts I think.  I think that they could have taken that design and put it to glow engines as well, then for the planes that have a belly dump exhaust it would be more scale
Title: Re: My F4U-1D Corsair Maiden this Saturday
Post by: TOMCAT21 on January 20, 2014, 07:00:06 AM
well done !