Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: bozon on January 14, 2014, 04:52:46 AM
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The limited time WEP in AH is a simple representation of various limitations that prevented pilots from flying on WEP 100% of the time. In some planes it was a hard limit due to limited water supply for water-injection, while in others it was mostly an engine health issue.
When we rearm at the pad, the plane is fully loaded and ready to go in 30 seconds. This is of course a "game play" rule because real planes were not refueled and rearmed at such a short time and not while the engine was running. Real planes with water-injection would have their water tank refilled. Planes without a hard limit on WEP could use it away normally without full service to the engine.
I therefore think that WEP should also be "reloaded", i.e. its timer refreshed. Some planes are heavily reliant on WEP and they suffer more than others. Probably the worst are Spit14s and Mossies with the worst ratio of use/cool times of 5/15 minutes and a huge performance boost with the WEP. P-47N/M, 109G14/K4 and 190A8 also desperately need their WEP and though their use/cool cycle is better, to get their full WEP time back takes about half their sortie time (at least the 109s and 190).
I see no "game play" reason not to reset WEP, but maybe I miss something.
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+1
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In game, WEP is controlled by engine temp. Engine temp goes down faster when engine is off. Turning off engine while on hotpad may get your WEP reset if you aren't redlined when you land.
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In game, WEP is controlled by engine temp. Engine temp goes down faster when engine is off.
WEP duration is strictly time in AH based, you do not regain WEP faster with engine shut off. For example, after spending all your wep in a BF 109E you will get back 1 minute of WEP for each 2 minutes of rest, both with engine on or off (yes, I tested that again just to make sure nothing has changed :D)
By the way, AH wiki seems to be wrong with the P-38(L), it states 5/10 minutes while I found it to be 5/15 minutes. If anybody else wants to check that (and other planes)... :old:
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By the way, AH wiki seems to be wrong with the P-38(L), it states 5/10 minutes while I found it to be 5/15 minutes. If anybody else wants to check that (and other planes)... :old:
5/15 for J model as well.
ack-ack
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WEP duration is strictly time in AH based, you do not regain WEP faster with engine shut off. For example, after spending all your wep in a BF 109E you will get back 1 minute of WEP for each 2 minutes of rest, both with engine on or off (yes, I tested that again just to make sure nothing has changed :D)
By the way, AH wiki seems to be wrong with the P-38(L), it states 5/10 minutes while I found it to be 5/15 minutes. If anybody else wants to check that (and other planes)... :old:
BAH!!! I'm wrong again :bolt:
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IIRC there's a hard limit built into the timer,you get Xmount of time on wep and thats it,regardless if you cool the engine or not. I think if you look at the P51 as an example you get 6 mins total time,I could be wrong on exact amount of time but I'm sure it works on this principle.
I was sure Hitech had posted this in the past.
:salute
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I was sure Hitech had posted this in the past.
Yes, I remember that... and he was wrong :D
When I tested it back then (a few years ago) I did the Pony's 5/10 minute WEP cycle for more than one hour...
And I doubt it has changed since then, as I frequently use the Ta 152's WEP almost continually in extended B-29 chases without ever really running out of it (using it up for climb first, and then 2 or even 3 times during combat)
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Yes, I remember that... and he was wrong :D
When I tested it back then (a few years ago) I did the Pony's 5/10 minute WEP cycle for more than one hour...
And I doubt it has changed since then, as I frequently use the Ta 152's WEP almost continually in extended B-29 chases without ever really running out of it (using it up for climb first, and then 2 or even 3 times during combat)
Good to know Lusche! :aok
I was always under the assumption that wep would eventually run out,I know some planes have strange wep rates but I had no idea you could continually recharge wep.
:salute
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I was always under the assumption that wep would eventually run out
Until Itested it, I had the same impression as well... and I think that was intended and maybe it's just a glitch that allows for unlimted WEP cycles.
However, I also think the practical consequences are rather small, considering that the average fighter sortie in 2013 lasted 9.7 minutes. With maybe the Ta 152H as a notable exception, I very much doubt that many sorties are flown with using full WEP duration more than twice.
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5/15 for J model as well.
ack-ack
Thanks, I corrected the AH WIKI accordingly
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However, I also think the practical consequences are rather small, considering that the average fighter sortie in 2013 lasted 9.7 minutes.
Unfortunately there is no way to filter vulches out of this figure. But you knew that.