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Title: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: scarecrw on January 20, 2014, 05:52:06 PM: I know we already have a beautiful 23rd FG P-40E but is it possible to have our old AVG skin for the P-40E?

I really dig the Chinese star on AVG aircraft. Plus, I'm a Panda Bears fan :D

(http://www.netaces.org/skins/p40e/skin1.jpg)

or the camo from the old AVG days as it became the 23rd FG

(http://www.netaces.org/skins/p40e/skin3.jpg)

Is it possible to have someone reskin these or do another AVG P-40E?
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: Saxman on January 21, 2014, 05:31:43 PM: Shouldn't AVG skins go on the P-40B?
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: Kenne on January 21, 2014, 05:54:53 PM: Quote from: Saxman on January 21, 2014, 05:31:43 PM
Shouldn't AVG skins go on the P-40B?

word.
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: scarecrw on January 22, 2014, 12:45:04 AM: I believe they had P-40E's before July 1942 which is when they were disbanded. I know a few pilots like Tex Hill used the E but I'm not sure of the time frame and whether or not they used the Chinese star or the US. The book "FLYING TIGERS: Claire Chennault and his American Volunteers" mentions on a number of occasions the P-40E before July and as early as March after they left Rangoon but he often just says P-40 in other passages and it becomes difficult to tell how many they had and which squadrons or pilots used them and when.
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: scarecrw on January 22, 2014, 01:03:18 AM: Here's a profile (I know they aren't always correct but it might help).

(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/375/pics/10_7.jpg)

(http://www.sportys.com/morepics/p2418.jpg)

I believe this is a real photo (I may be wrong) but the Chinese stars are on the wings if you look close enough
(http://www.wscoin.com/Images/PaperMoneyGIF/ChinaPaper/3FLYINGTIGERS.JPG)

These are "Flying Tigers" but also belong to the 23rd Fighter Group but notice that some still have the nice camo scheme
(http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Flying-Tigers.jpg)
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: Vraciu on January 22, 2014, 10:07:57 AM: Color shot not real AVG. That's the Confederate Air Force Airsho' in the mid 70s. Third from the camera (#26) is the CAF's Warhawk now painted in a ghastly scheme similar to the second (Tex Hill) color plate you posted.
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: FTJR on January 25, 2014, 11:57:14 PM: Working from the only full picture I could find.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/jackfrost_011/ahss43.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/jackfrost_011/media/ahss43.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: Saxman on January 26, 2014, 01:47:39 AM: Shouldn't the roundels be a darker blue?
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: FTJR on January 26, 2014, 01:52:23 AM: Maybe they should, do you have any info on them? Anything would help.. Tks.

This is all i could find on the web, for a darker colour. The lighter ones I got from a book, but its a bit difficult to verify. Is that better?

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/jackfrost_011/ahss43-1.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/jackfrost_011/media/ahss43-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: lyric1 on January 26, 2014, 03:45:06 AM: There is a photo & profile in the links.

Click on the photo & it will get bigger showing more detail.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4842007118/lightbox/

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,316356.105.html
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: FTJR on January 26, 2014, 04:48:27 AM: Thanks Lyric, my impression from the 2nd link is that the original version of the colour of the star is correct. They all seem fairly light. Your thoughts?

If you scroll down to the halfway point you can see the star on the wing. Which I think is the more correct colour.
http://www.ratomodeling.com/articles/AVG_cammo/
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: Saxman on January 26, 2014, 10:38:22 AM: According to Simmers Paint Shop, Chinese Medium Royal Blue (I think the most likely color) would have and RGB of: 0, 117, 170 which looks like this:

http://colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=15092
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: lyric1 on January 26, 2014, 05:36:38 PM: Quote from: FTJR on January 26, 2014, 04:48:27 AM
Thanks Lyric, my impression from the 2nd link is that the original version of the colour of the star is correct. They all seem fairly light. Your thoughts?

If you scroll down to the halfway point you can see the star on the wing. Which I think is the more correct colour.
http://www.ratomodeling.com/articles/AVG_cammo/

Viewing from my end the roundel looks to be aqua or teal it is not blue at all in the first post you made.
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: FTJR on January 26, 2014, 09:36:29 PM: Thanks Saxman, Lyric. Im a bit short of time this week but I'll look at those colours when I get a free moment.

Cheers
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: scarecrw on January 27, 2014, 02:14:49 AM: Looks great! Keep up the amazing work. I can't wait to fly it! :aok :salute

:cheers:
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: FTJR on January 31, 2014, 05:51:26 AM: Between work i've managed to get a fair bit of reading, I was sent some interesting pdf's, updated the colour and some bits and pieces. The nose cone has been deliberately left the default colour.
Thanks for the input guys.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/jackfrost_011/ahss46.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/jackfrost_011/media/ahss46.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: scarecrw on January 31, 2014, 03:12:58 PM: Stunning! :cheers: :salute :aok
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: Zoney on January 31, 2014, 03:25:17 PM: Too many teeth maybe from what I see in the sharks mouth.

It does look good for an allied bird though :devil
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: FTJR on January 31, 2014, 07:01:23 PM: Never thought I'd be counting teeth in AH :D, but I have, and its out by 2 baby teeth.

Thanks guys
Title: Re: 2nd Pursuit Squadron, AVG P-40E
Post by: lyric1 on January 31, 2014, 10:47:48 PM: :aok