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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Zigrat on January 29, 2001, 10:23:00 AM
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8 new planes in 1.06:
4 variants
2 all new
2 "modified" (related but substantially different to current planes)
mine:
variants
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fw-190 f8
spit XIV
p-47 M
la-7
"modified"
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tempest
190-d9
all new
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blitz
il-2
this list would make me extremely happy. well those are my guesses. what are yours?
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variants
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fw-190 f8
spit XIV
p-47 M
la-7
"modified"
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tempest
190-d9
all new
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blitz
il-2
I'll 2nd that list, although we might see a Ki61, Ki84 or Ki100 instead of the Il-2M3.
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Hmmmm... while I would love to see your list in 1.06, I think your a little optimistic.
Most likely we would be lucky to get half that number, but thats just my opinon. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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KI-61 and FM-2 please.
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HT was in the arena Saturday and he said there would be at least 6 new planes in 1.06. I hope he doesn't mind me relaying that info here...
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Hey Zig, where'd you get that information on what planes are coming out?
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Very good list Zig..
I would think a dive bomber would be good. But the Avenger seems to work very well that way anyway..
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hitech told me 8 planes on saturday, he told us, 4 variants, 2 mods, 2 all new planes
he didnt tell me the planes, i guessed based on that
i would say i am probably 80% right. my only guesses would be
a) like karnak said mabye no il-2 and a japanese plane instead
b) no p47-m mabye f4u-4 or p-51 h instead
but other than that i bet i am right, as they make alot of sense given the 4-2-2 hitech said
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this gives russians, germans, americans, and brits a perk
my guesses are the tempest will be a high cost perk (200-300 pts) while la5,p-47m, and 190-d9 lower cost (100 pts)
japanese get the short stick, but 1.07 will be i believe adding more ships so it makes sense to add some more japanese planes then. i think they putting in a battleship and LST in 1.07, as well as upgrading special FX and improving ship damage models.
but thats just my logical guessing.
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Variants:
- Mustang Mk III (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
- P51-H
- Spit 14
- La-7
New:
- Me 262
- Hurricane Mk II
Modified:
- 190 D9
- Tempest
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I'll ditto Spatulas list.
[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 01-29-2001).]
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Variants (my guess/wish):
Fighter version of Ju-88 (CANNONS!)
A6M3 Zero
P51B
Long Nosed FW190
New planes:
Tempest (confirmed)
Arado (confirmed)
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Right on the confirmed new planes.
Don't forget Superfly let it slip the La7 is coming...
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
this gives russians, germans, americans, and brits a perk
my guesses are the tempest will be a high cost perk (200-300 pts) while la5,p-47m,P-51, and 190-d9 lower cost (100 pts)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 01-29-2001).]
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Variants:
P47M
P51H
Spit Mk XIV
Bf109T
Modified:
Fw190 D-9
Tempest
New:
Ar 234
Ki-84
Defiantly WAG's (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Hmm,
4 Varients
FW190D-9(done deal)
P-47N(Clipped wings, why not)
Spit IV
P-51H
2 all new
KI-84
Arado Blitz(duh)
2 modified
Tempest9Duh)
F2G(just because)
La-7(Superfly already slipped)
All perk planes BTW.
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Whatever the plane set, I hope HTC is keeping an eye on the scenario-ability of the overall plane set. Other than the IL-2 and a divebomber, I don't think any of the planes mentioned really enhance the ability to do any different types of scenarios than we can do right now (unless you count "Try to Catch the Arado" as a new type).
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Hmmm... now the question I have is, Is the La7 a variant or a modified? To me it would be a modified, a variant would be more like a La5F as opposed to the La5FN or just a simple La5. Each one being powered by a different engine.
The La7 is a modified, I think, because of the revised wing structure(metal spars relacing the wooden box spars), a revised inboard wing leading edge and an entirely new cowling. Same engine, but possiblity to mount 3 Berezina B-20 cannons. These were installed on the aircraft built at Yaroslavl, the ones built in Moscow reverted to twin ShVAK cannons.
The amazing thing about the La7 over the La5 is such a huge increase in top speed over the previous model even though it's powered by the same engine. La5FN's max speed is 403MPH at ~20K while the La7's max speed is 423MPH at ~19K.
Anywho, I think it's one of the modified aircraft we will be getting, not a variant.
Just my opinion of course.
-SW
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A GREEN P51Mk1A, A SILVER P51B, A Turd BROWN Mustang III and a shiny P51H.
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AKSeaWulfe that reminds me. I can't think of the planes name right now but there is a real good example of a relatively minor aerodynamic modification in a jet making the difference between level flight M1 and not being able to make it to M1. They reshaped the hull of the plane so that at the wing root it narrowed (like a Coke bottle) to reduce drag. That allowed the plane to go M1 with the same engine.
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Originally posted by Jimdandy:
AKSeaWulfe that reminds me. I can't think of the planes name right now but there is a real good example of a relatively minor aerodynamic modification in a jet making the difference between level flight M1 and not being able to make it to M1. They reshaped the hull of the plane so that at the wing root it narrowed (like a Coke bottle) to reduce drag. That allowed the plane to go M1 with the same engine.
F-102 Delta Dagger.
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I hope very much that we will see a Ki84 included in the planeset for 1.06. The current AH planeset has no aircraft at all from the Japanese Army Air Force - only the Imperial Japanese Navy is represented. The Ki61 would also be most welcome, as would a Japanese level bomber and some Japanese carrier-based attack aircraft.
10bears has submitted a gorgeous Luzon terrain and we have CV ops now. It'd be a shame not to include some fine Japanese AC.
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.. and Toyo Rose. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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<whacks Hang> That's Tokyo Rose you Gimp! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Let's see here....
Modified from existing planes:
Fw-190 F8 (G8 or D9 maybe?)
Tempest V
P-51H
P-47M
La-7
Ki-84
All new:
Ar.234
Il-2 Type 3 [prays for twin 23mm VYa guns]
You can't really call differences between Mods and Variants since they're the same thing. Variants will use the same parts as an existing model, which makes them a Modification.
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4 variants... One of them gotta be 190F-8! So many has asked for it and it would expand planeset for nicely in historical sense, about 5000 F model Wulfs were produced during war, one third of whole production.
Modifieds could include D-9 and it will not be perk plane, there is simply no reason for it. It is match for P-51D, nothing more.
All new will of course have Ar 234 Blitz as new perk bomber.
At any rate, I think it will be great update! Ar 234 alone is great news for me but F-8 would really make my day (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.
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