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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Rich46yo on January 25, 2014, 03:50:03 AM
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I get a laugh at the ooooHs and aaaaHs coming from everyone whenever the Russians unveil one of their new super weapons. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/24/russian-rubbish-india-reportedly-disappointed-with-stealth-fighters-from-moscow/
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I am Russian!
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Zack, just because you have a furry hat and drink vodka, that doesn't make you russian.
Ya lunatic,
Wurz
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well maybe that will teach the Indians to buy 'murican!
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Zack, just because you have a furry hat and drink vodka, that doesn't make you russian.
Ya lunatic,
Wurz
:rofl
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I dunno. They did a fine job with their Mark-1 Jaegers.
(http://www.wearemoviegeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/PR-ILM-0276-560x315.jpg)
Well, that is until Otachi and Leatherback showed up.
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Zack, just because you have a furry hat and drink vodka, that doesn't make you russian.
Ya lunatic,
Wurz
:rofl
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I am Russian!
Im more Russian then you. Just look at my avatar.
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See Rule #14
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Currently Russia has a worse economy than we do here in the states, doesn't surprise me that they can't design something correctly when they don't have the means to fund it.
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They probably couldn't steal the appropriate trade secrets to make it work correctly.
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You know.. I would have taken this seriously......
until I saw the "fox news" logo... and then immediately clicked *exit*
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LOL at the gratuitous dig at the Obama Administration in that article. Typical.
I'm glad they do that - some media is expressing my thoughts.
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So according to your article this turned more like India bashing instead of Russia:
“India has had so many problems absorbing modern equipment and supporting it that it’s difficult to know whether it says anything about the Russian systems at all,” Anthony Cordesman, who has served as a consultant for the State and Defense departments and who holds the Burke Chair in Strategy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told FoxNews.com.
Laird said that the Indians may be souring on the Russian deal in part to save funds so they can build more French-designed Dassault Rafale fighter jets, which can be built relatively quickly, unlike the still-to-be-designed “fifth-generation” planes under development with the Russians.
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This thread makes me laugh :rofl
Current aircraft software is inadequate for even basic pilot training, The radar performs poorly or not at all, Maintenance tools do not work
And it is about... F-35! After 8 years production its carrier based variant can't still land on carrier (after 14 frames produced)!
And now you are laughing on the plane that that had flown 4 years ago, it is first stealthy Russian aircraft design, unlike US F-117, B-2, F-22. And yet its program cost is still a fraction of JSF program.
So something tells me that laughing and criticizing Russian developers is probably not that justified in face of amazing and high quality US programs...
Recall: for some reason Indians major air superiority fighters are Sukhoi Su-30MKI, their next carrier fighters are MiG-29K and still India buys the fighters from Russia. So they are probably not that bad
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Some would say that this picture should be a diving eagle, diving down the national budget deficit chart :devil
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So Russian stealth aircraft not as good as expected. I'll bet the Indians didn't see that coming........ :confused: :confused: I'll get my hat and coat. :bolt:
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So Russian stealth aircraft not as good as expected. I'll bet the Indians didn't see that coming........ :confused: :confused: I'll get my hat and coat. :bolt:
I'll rephrase it a little.
So Russian Lockheed Martin's stealth aircraft not as good and as affordable as expected. I'll bet the Indians USAF/USN/USMC didn't see that coming........ :confused: :confused: I'll get my hat and coat. :bolt:
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And it is about... F-35! After 8 years production its carrier based variant can't still land on carrier (after 14 frames produced)!
We are going to be the only operators of the F35C. It was always going to be the last version rolled out and tested because of its design differences needed for carrier Ops.
And now you are laughing on the plane that that had flown 4 years ago, it is first stealthy Russian aircraft design, unlike US F-117, B-2, F-22. And yet its program cost is still a fraction of JSF program.
Yeah I am, and Im laughing at this bloody idiot, the Aussie expert that flew in a fighter once in his life http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/russia-stealth/ And who has been talking up this Russian crap at the expense of their decision to stay with western aircraft. And what good is saving money when it loses you the war?
So something tells me that laughing and criticizing Russian developers is probably not that justified in face of amazing and high quality US programs...
The T-50 was never even scheduled to begin production until 2015, which was very doubtful like all their claims. And then, like the Russians do so well, they pirouette around the sky at air shows in fighters that even they probably wont want, or want many of, touting the new super planes which all turn out to be far less then expected. I doubt the T-50 will sell to ANYONE and even under the best of circumstances it was decades away from being delivered to most who showed interest. India was to be the major buyer and for sure they are the major investor/developer. For years the world has been told, by the real experts, that the F-35 is going to be a remarkable airplane. Instead to many Internet Heros have listened to the Carlo Kopps of the world. The truth is, tho yes there have been cost over runs "imagine that" the F-35 program has gone pretty smoothly for such a revolutionary airplane.
Recall: for some reason Indians major air superiority fighters are Sukhoi Su-30MKI, their next carrier fighters are MiG-29K and still India buys the fighters from Russia. So they are probably not that bad
Many of their procurement decisions are based more on price and GeoPolitics then actually buying the best airplane. Much has changed since the Cold War ended. The world has realigned and we have had wars which have shown there is no substitute for technology and Low RCS in fighter aircraft. I think India will be buying one of the very fine 4.5 Gen Euro consortium fighters instead of this thing. More costly yes but they have to contend with the Chinese and they need a techno edge for that.
The Russians to not make junk but as aircraft have evolved it has become more and more difficult to fuze all the technologically advanced components into one effective fighting machine. This is where they fail. Its one thing to roll out a demonstrator, slap some engines on it, fly it around, and then release all kinds of silly specs on it. Its another thing to actually produce one that really works.