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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: earl1937 on January 28, 2014, 07:22:54 AM
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:airplane: Overall, would have to rate a A! Good job on remodel of cockpit, remake of cowlings and nose spinner! I am not sure of the "yoke" that you have placed in the a/c, don't believe I ever saw one like that in a B-26.
I couldn't tell if any changes in flight handling! Tried some power on departure stalls and as long as you are in coordinated attitude, stalls were straight ahead with no wing dropping. Same with approach to landing stalls, down and dirty with everything.
I like the addition of the RMI DG mounted on windshield. Gun sight on nose seems to be off set a little to the right, rather than directly in line with pilots position. Airspeed and altimeter does not work at bombardier and navigator positions. I did like the gun sights though out the aircraft better than old ones.
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I am not sure of the "yoke" that you have placed in the a/c, don't believe I ever saw one like that in a B-26.
From your prior descriptions the B-26 that you have real experience with was the Douglas B-26. The Martin B-26 was retired from US service in 1947.
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From your prior descriptions the B-26 that you have real experience with was the Douglas B-26. The Martin B-26 was retired from US service in 1947.
:airplane: Correct, the B-26C
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You guys are confusing as heck. B-26C Marauder or the Invader? Names would help us stay on the same page. Just saying.
Even better, the only A-26 I ever call a B-26 is the K. Very few misunderstandings occur that way.
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You guys are confusing as heck. B-26C Marauder or the Invader? Names would help us stay on the same page. Just saying.
The only A-26 I ever call a B-26 is the K. Nobody gets confused that way.
Martin B-26 is the Marauder. B-26B would be a Marauder.
Douglas A-26 and B-26 is the Invader. B-26C would be an Invader.
The two aircraft are completely unrelated to one another. We can thank the USAF for the confusion. They could have kept the Invader as the "A-26", but noooooo they had to go and rename it to the previously used by the, at the time of the renaming, retired Marauder "B-26".
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From your prior descriptions the B-26 that you have real experience with was the Douglas B-26. The Martin B-26 was retired from US service in 1947.
This is going to go on for the next ten years LOL.
I was surprised at how early the instrument panel on the B-26B looked. I know the aircraft was designed before the U.S. entered the war. Somehow I just expected it to look more modern. Also, I have found the ring and bead gunsight much harder to use than the previous B-26 cockpit.
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Martin B-26 is the Marauder. B-26B would be a Marauder.
Douglas A-26 and B-26 is the Invader. B-26C would be an Invader.
The two aircraft are completely unrelated to one another. We can thank the USAF for the confusion. They could have kept the Invader as the "A-26", but noooooo they had to go and rename it to the previously used by the, at the time of the renaming, retired Marauder "B-26".
Unless the B-26C you are referring to is a Marauder. Or the B-26B you refer to is a post-1948 Invader. Without the name there is just room for more confusion.
We would all be served better to just call an Invader an A-26 unless it is the K which we can call a B-26K--which was itself re-designated A-26A. Oy. So calling all Invaders an A-26 and all Marauders a B-26 and just leaving it that way would help make everyone understand wtf is being said. Otherwise, if you call an Invader a B-26 on purpose then please append it with Invader.
Face palm.
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Very nice modeling. The new 26 is a looker.
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Unless the B-26C you are referring to is a Marauder. Or the B-26B you refer to is a post-1948 Invader. Without the name there is just room for more confusion.
We would all be served better to just call an Invader an A-26 unless it is the K which we can call a B-26K--which was itself re-designated A-26A. Oy. So calling all Invaders an A-26 and all Marauders a B-26 and just leaving it that way would help make everyone understand wtf is being said. Otherwise, if you call an Invader a B-26 on purpose then please append it with Invader.
Face palm.
:airplane: Sorry guys, didn't mean to confuse anyone. The Douglas B-26 "invader" was actually first designed in 1942, but because of a number of things, non were ordered until 1944 and because of prior contracts, non really flew in WW2, although I found a web site which said they did. They first came into the fore front of bombers during the Korean conflict and was the last aircraft to drop a bomb in that conflict 30 minutes prior to signing of peace agreement with the North.
This aircraft was actually designed to take the place of the A-20 Havoc in the USAF inventory and several varients were produced over the life of the aircraft. The aircraft designation was changed by the USAF in 48 I think.
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/earl1937/b26c_zpse79959d4.jpg) This a "C" model in flight
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/earl1937/B-26K_zps83abde0d.jpg) this is the latest version of the "Invader" series, which was used though out the Vietnam war, mainly hitting Ho Ci Men trail, both during day light and night.
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/earl1937/a26-2_zpscf4a1a62.jpg) The "C" and "K" office!
While the Martin and Douglas aircraft both played an important part in military operations, there is no question, but that the "K" model was the most effective medium bomber as far as "heavy" iron was concerned!
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Martin B-26 is the Marauder. B-26B would be a Marauder.
Douglas A-26 and B-26 is the Invader. B-26C would be an Invader.
The two aircraft are completely unrelated to one another. We can thank the USAF for the confusion. They could have kept the Invader as the "A-26", but noooooo they had to go and rename it to the previously used by the, at the time of the renaming, retired Marauder "B-26".
:airplane: One of the reasons for the confusion is this. When the USAF wanted to fly the Invader out of Thailand, they would not agree to allowing bombers to fly from their country, so the USAF changed the designation from B-26 back to A-26. Same aircraft, same attack mission profile and never understood why the Thai's objected to that designation.
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This a "C" model in flight
A gorgeous plane.
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I with the B-26 in AH had the ability to take torpedoes so that we could use it that way in Midway special events.
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I with the B-26 in AH had the ability to take torpedoes so that we could use it that way in Midway special events.
:airplane: I am very pleased with the re-design of our B-26, just wish they had put a decent looking "Yoke" in it. Guns seem to be more effective or maybe my new glasses, but at any rate, seem to be getting better results when firing them at cons!
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is the tail gun destructible now?
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It's so cooool! I upped a formation for a short flight, delivered ords, got shot down but killed my attacker (I panicked and forgot how to switch planes - doh!). Much more immersive now.
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is the tail gun destructible now?
Yes.
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i dunno Earl, the yokes look pretty much correct to the plane:
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/images/b26-007.jpg)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8929/b26marauder2.jpg)
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i dunno Earl, the yokes look pretty much correct to the plane:
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/images/b26-007.jpg)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8929/b26marauder2.jpg)
:airplane: If what was on our B-26, was the same as either one of these pictured, I would agree. I know this 26 in AH is based, I guess, on the very first model 26 by Martin. Its no big deal, they did such a good job on the latest model cockpit, what is In there seems out of place.
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:airplane: If what was on our B-26, was the same as either one of these pictured, I would agree. I know this 26 in AH is based, I guess, on the very first model 26 by Martin. Its no big deal, they did such a good job on the latest model cockpit, what is In there seems out of place.
The Martin B-26 and Douglas B-26 are 100% different aircraft. They share no parts that would have been designed in house by Martin or by Douglas.
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:airplane: If what was on our B-26, was the same as either one of these pictured, I would agree. I know this 26 in AH is based, I guess, on the very first model 26 by Martin.
"Your" B-26 was a totally different plane, the Martin B-26 Marauder. This is not "the very first model" 26, it's an entirely different plane than the Douglas A-26 "Invader", later just renamed to B-26. We do not have that in game at all. And that's why our cockpit just can't look like the one you did fly.
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Ok, let's just copy and paste this whenever this confusion comes up again in the future :D
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/B26vsA26_zps5069bd12.jpg)
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you guys just gave me a migrain
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Ok, let's just copy and paste this whenever this confusion comes up again in the future :D
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/B26vsA26_zps5069bd12.jpg)
It'll all be resolved for good when the A-26 is added to AH. :p
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This is starting to sound like an Abbott & Costello routine.
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This is starting to sound like an Abbott & Costello routine.
For which we may thank the USAF.
Now, how is that A-26 coming along? :p
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Now, how is that A-26 coming along? :p
Wasn't the 26 just updated? :headscratch: :bolt:
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Its time for the A26B.
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Wasn't the 26 just updated? :headscratch: :bolt:
:lol
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I'm curious to why the in-game B-26's nose art looks different from the screenies on the front page... :headscratch:
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This is starting to sound like an Abbott & Costello routine.
:bhead I never said anything about the 25 Invader aircraft by Douglas, just ask a simple question about the yoke in the 26 we have in the game. Just seems a little out of place. I believe that the real one had 2 switches on the end of the yoke, one for command comminications and one for inter=com. Can't find a pic of it right now, but the pic's shown in this thread doesn't show the two different switches. Maybe on this Martin, they didn't have the two different functions, but on all other bombers in WW2 had those two functions.
Its really no big deal guys, they have done such a good job of re-model of the cockpit, it really looks great on my 32" screen.
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Maybe this has been mentioned, but I noticed that you can't move your head very far in the gunner positions. I like to move my head all the way out of the site and use tracers to guide my aim as the sights obscure so much of the sky. Why is the 26 different than the others?
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Very nice modeling. The new 26 is a looker.
Hate to hijack the thread but my curiosity prevails.....was the Soviet hammer and sykle symbol used in WWII Rich?
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Hate to hijack the thread but my curiosity prevails.....was the Soviet hammer and sykle symbol used in WWII Rich?
I highly doubt it. It was no doubt the Red Star.
Nor do I care.
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Hammer and sykle was part of the Soviet state flag from 1923 on.
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Sickle.
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I highly doubt it. It was no doubt the Red Star.
Nor do I care.
Please believe me when I say no offense was intended Sir. I just have an interest in the Soviet WWII airforce and was only curious. I apologize if I have offended you in any way. :salute
BTW, Thx Lusche :salute