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Title: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on January 29, 2014, 07:40:41 AM
Hi all.

The basics of my b-17 - panel line, rivets and fixtures and fittings are getting there now and I hope that my b-17 skin will be the first to be the 2048 size rather than the old 1024 size.

I am looking for suggestion for skins people would like to see in the game.

So anyone with any ideas please post here!

Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 09, 2014, 07:39:40 AM
Is there no player in the game or a squad which need a b17 skin, I find that hard to believe!?!?
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: olds442 on February 09, 2014, 08:50:54 AM
487th bomber group. We already have the skin but it would be nice to have it remade.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on February 09, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
The skin I want is a 17F, not a 17G  :mad:

But there is still this one that would be amazing to have!

(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp217/J312a1/LibertyBelle.jpg)


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/B-17_Liberty_Belle.jpg)

The B-17 was eventually purchased by aviation enthusiast Don Brooks, who formed the Liberty Foundation to exhibit the plane as the Liberty Belle. Restoration began in 1992 with parts from another damaged B-17 (44-85813), performed by Tom Reilly and company/Flying Tigers Warbird Restoration Museum (aka "Bombertown USA"), located at that time at Kissimmee Gateway field, Kissimmee, Florida. She returned to the air on 8 December 2004, and had been touring the air show circuit since then. The Liberty Foundation also planned an historic overseas tour in July 2008 along the northern ferry route to England.

Liberty Belle (the one shown above) never served in WWII. But there were some named Liberty Belle that did.

Liberty Belle was the name of several individual Boeing B-17 Flying Fortresses used in combat during World War II. The first Liberty Belle B-17 (serial number 42-30096) crashed near Wakes Colne after an accidental on-board fire on 30 November 1943; while the BQ-7 Aphrodite variant (42-30039) named Liberty Belle "was hit by flak and crashed" during a mission against the Heligoland U-boat pens on 15 October 1944. Liberty Belle tail number 42-31610 and a Liberty Bell were attached to the 91st Bomb Group (Heavy), at Bassingbourne.[2][3] A third Liberty Belle (42-97849) landed in Belgium with heavy damage on 14 February 1945, during an Oil Campaign raid. A fourth Liberty Belle B-17G (43-38037), was part of the 487th "B-17 Flying Fortress Story" and involved in a mid air collision on 30 September 1944. After a sharp turn in heavy contrails, this B-17 was caught in prop wash (presumed), went over on its back and collided with Tail Number 43-38154 of the same squadron. The right wing of '38037 and the left wing of '38154 came off and both aircraft crashed at Bexterhagen, 9 km east of Bielefeld. Only 3 out of 18 men on the two aircraft survived.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 09, 2014, 03:26:46 PM
Sorry sir it has to be from an original wartime b-17G which flew in that skin
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: olds442 on February 09, 2014, 09:04:40 PM
Sorry sir it has to be from an original wartime b-17G which flew in that skin
http://www.487thbg.org/Markings.shtml
http://www.8thafhs.org/bomber/grpimages/487bg.gif

Like I said we already have this skin in game. I just want it remade with the new skin advancements (like bump mapping and reflective properties).
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Wagger on February 10, 2014, 10:30:52 PM
This is a few pictures of my Dads B-17.  It was with the 534th Squadron, 381st Bomb group heavy. 

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/A47730_zpsa93760eb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/A47730_zpsa93760eb.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/8fd2f354-d985-4f4b-b5ee-8dd83600c95e_zps405d2d39.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/8fd2f354-d985-4f4b-b5ee-8dd83600c95e_zps405d2d39.jpg.html)

There is one more pic showing Sweet Patootie in formation.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on February 11, 2014, 03:35:47 PM
This is a few pictures of my Dads B-17.  It was with the 534th Squadron, 381st Bomb group heavy. 

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/A47730_zpsa93760eb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/A47730_zpsa93760eb.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/8fd2f354-d985-4f4b-b5ee-8dd83600c95e_zps405d2d39.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/8fd2f354-d985-4f4b-b5ee-8dd83600c95e_zps405d2d39.jpg.html)

There is one more pic showing Sweet Patootie in formation.
SKIN IT  :aok
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Wagger on February 12, 2014, 09:35:28 PM
I'll try and find the other two pics of the plane.  Also have information on its last mission.  If you want will post personal information of the crew.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 13, 2014, 02:54:42 AM
Picts would be great thanks
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Wagger on February 13, 2014, 06:26:42 PM
Some pictures taken of the site in France after Sweet Patootie crash landed.  Also a picture of her in flight.



http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot1.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot2.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot3.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot4.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot5.JPG

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/Mobile%20Uploads/Page1_zps7b0cc293.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Page1_zps7b0cc293.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 13, 2014, 06:59:55 PM
When I have finished the special project I a, working on I have a go at your skin, but this may not be in time for start of March. But I do my best
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Greebo on February 14, 2014, 09:45:32 AM
Here's a few B-17s with shark mouth nose art. None of these squadrons appears in the current B-17G skin list.

Tiger Girl of the 388th BG/560th BS:
This is an olive drab very late model B-17F with a chin turret so it should be OK on our B-17G.
Link 1 (http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37512&start=15)
Link 2 (http://www.fineartofdecals.com/goodies/b-17g-tiger-girl/)

Flak Eater of the 305th BG/364th BS:
This is a natural metal B-17G.
Link 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/8092017607/)
Link 2 (http://www.markstyling.com/1ad_b17s5.htm)
Link 3 (http://forum.armyairforces.com/Need-info-on-446009-quotFlak-Eaterquot-m95580.aspx)

2nd Patches of the 99th BG/346th BS:
This is an aircraft cobbled together from several B-17s with a variety of OD and NM finishes.
Link 1 (http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=21400)
Link 2 (http://www.markstyling.com/mto_b17s4.htm)
Link 3 (http://www.rollmodels.net/nreviews/airplanes/48MonogramB17G/48MonogranB17G.php)



Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Devil 505 on February 14, 2014, 11:23:24 AM
Nice finds Greebo.

"2nd Patches" gets my vote.  :aok
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Megalodon on February 14, 2014, 12:25:41 PM
Some pictures taken of the site in France after Sweet Patootie crash landed.  Also a picture of her in flight.



http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot1.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot2.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot3.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot4.jpg
http://www.histavia21.net/HISTAV2/patoot5.JPG

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/Mobile%20Uploads/Page1_zps7b0cc293.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Page1_zps7b0cc293.jpg.html)


This is a few pictures of my Dads B-17.  It was with the 534th Squadron, 381st Bomb group heavy. 

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/A47730_zpsa93760eb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/A47730_zpsa93760eb.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x405/fphpcp/8fd2f354-d985-4f4b-b5ee-8dd83600c95e_zps405d2d39.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/fphpcp/media/8fd2f354-d985-4f4b-b5ee-8dd83600c95e_zps405d2d39.jpg.html)

There is one more pic showing Sweet Patootie in formation.

WOW that is awesome Wagger!.... the new crew and their 4th mission go down in France in what was thought to be friendly territory.... turned out not so friendly territory.

SKIN IT!!

 :salute
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 14, 2014, 01:17:43 PM
Wow lots of interesting skins for me to do there, thank greebo for those skins.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on February 14, 2014, 02:40:53 PM
Here's a few B-17s with shark mouth nose art. None of these squadrons appears in the current B-17G skin list.

Tiger Girl of the 388th BG/560th BS:
This is an olive drab very late model B-17F with a chin turret so it should be OK on our B-17G.
Link 1 (http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37512&start=15)
Link 2 (http://www.fineartofdecals.com/goodies/b-17g-tiger-girl/)



Tiger girl doesn't have a cheyenne turret.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Greebo on February 14, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
I'd say its near enough in shape to be OK, but if in doubt check with HTC before skinning it.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 14, 2014, 04:35:47 PM
there maybe a slight problem doing teeth on the chin turret because the the template works. putting it simply the turret is a half reflected on the template. so I am not sure the teeth will work out. Skuzzy did say this was a very old template and the whole things needed to be updated but it will be quite some time before it can be. This goes along with the rudder, you get kinks in diagonal lines. But anyway will have a go with the teeth but no promises.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Greebo on February 15, 2014, 04:02:47 AM
That's too bad, the B-24 has a similar issue of stretching across the nose which rules out some shark mouth schemes.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 15, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
To be honest some of these aircaft as specialy bomber should be put on two sheets instead of one like they do in a lot of other flight sims
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Cheyenn on February 15, 2014, 11:22:27 PM
HornetUK
How about the 97th Bomb Group, you seen a couple of 97th Bomb Group B-17G on the web site.
I am trying to locate more 97th BG B-17G skins for you.

Cheyenn
CO virtual 97th Bomb Group Heavy
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on February 16, 2014, 03:44:01 AM
I am already working on that Cheyenn, I have only found 2 possible skins which can be used on the b-17g for the 97th. There are other imaged on the Internet but I can not identify them properly. Also there are many model F b-17's and to be accepted into Aces High they must have a chin turret.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on March 03, 2014, 04:18:22 AM
mock up of Sweet Patootie so far, what you think sir?
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Wagger on March 03, 2014, 06:21:59 PM
I like it very much.  Outstanding.
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on March 03, 2014, 06:23:40 PM
mock up of Sweet Patootie so far, what you think sir?
Great job Hornet.  :aok
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: Greebo on March 04, 2014, 04:34:03 AM
Very Nice skin Hornet. Maybe it looks a little over-faded to my eyes, particularly in the second shot, or is that specularity glare?
Title: Re: Looking for b-17 skin suggestions!
Post by: HornetUK on March 04, 2014, 05:56:45 AM
Have to admit it looks far better in ah do some images in a bit