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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: bangsbox on January 30, 2014, 02:06:32 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/)
http://www.reddit.com/r/WWIIplanes (http://www.reddit.com/r/WWIIplanes)
beautiful collection of photos, mostly from peoples personal collections.
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here is a beaut. Ki-46 attacking b-29s!
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/34/guh3.jpg)
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Great picture!
What is interesting is how close the Japanese bird came in the HO attack. Second, the maneuvering the top B-29 is going through. This is right up there with some Lanc-dweebs pulling barrel rolls as I come in with my Fw-190A5. Ok, not that dramatic but it appears to show a buff pilot maneuvering to avoid the fighter attack.
boo
PS Does this mean you want this Ki-46 bird instead of the 110?
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Love that pic,I'll have to check out your links,Ty for sharing.
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Dinah was an observer craft, did the Dinah even have guns? (I know very little about the Ki-46, I've just looked at pictures)
Was this guy throwing rocks at the B-29?! :D :joystick:
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Watch out, y'all will get sucked into the Reddit black hole of doooom! :bolt:
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here is a beaut. Ki-46 attacking b-29s!
Dinah was an observer craft, did the Dinah even have guns? (I know very little about the Ki-46, I've just looked at pictures)
It is a Ki-45.
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Dinah was an observer craft, did the Dinah even have guns? (I know very little about the Ki-46, I've just looked at pictures)
Was this guy throwing rocks at the B-29?! :D :joystick:
Ki-46 was a PR aircraft with later armed versions. That is, as Wmaker noted, a Ki-45 though.
PR = high, fast, photography.
Observer = slow, low and radio communication of what is being observed.
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Watch out, y'all will get sucked into the Reddit black hole of doooom! :bolt:
hahah ya im so sucked in its not funny.
another sub-reddit I love is battlePaintings
http://www.reddit.com/r/BattlePaintings (http://www.reddit.com/r/BattlePaintings)
and here is a nice one from there
(http://imageshack.com/a/img534/6885/y736.jpg)
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hahah ya im so sucked in its not funny.
another sub-reddit I love is battlePaintings
http://www.reddit.com/r/BattlePaintings (http://www.reddit.com/r/BattlePaintings)
and here is a nice one from there
(http://imageshack.com/a/img534/6885/y736.jpg)
Looked at it twice - still doesn't make me want to join the army.
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I can't see how that Ki-45 got into that position. Maybe the angle is weird, but it looks like he would have had to pass within a few feet of the front of the B29 he's below, which implies he came within milliseconds of colliding.
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I can't see how that Ki-45 got into that position. Maybe the angle is weird, but it looks like he would have had to pass within a few feet of the front of the B29 he's below, which implies he came within milliseconds of colliding.
There is a reasonably chance that he was trying to collide. The Japanese did use kamikaze attacks against B-29s. Even the Germans finally resorted to them at the end, though if I recall the Germans gave lip service to the pilot surviving the collision.
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Ki-46 was a PR aircraft with later armed versions. That is, as Wmaker noted, a Ki-45 though.
PR = high, fast, photography.
Observer = slow, low and radio communication of what is being observed.
Good to know. Not so good in the vision dept these days..
Japanese planes are the ones I know the least about, so that makes sense to me. I'll have to do some reading.
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Something isn't right here. The Ki-45 is nearest to the camera, yet still seems extremely small. The B-29 under attack has its rear bomb bay doors open. The B-29 furthest from the camera is in a climbing left hand turn.
The KI-45 is 36' in length and has a 49' wingspan. The B-29 has a length of 99'.
In the photo, the KI-45 measures 3.5cm in length, while the B-29 measures 16cm. If this were an accurate photo, the B-29 should only measure 10.5 cm.
Anyone care to comment?
(Measurements were taken when I zoomed in on MS paint. The ratio of the plane lengths is wrong. Your measurements will be different depending on how much you zoom in)
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Something isn't right here. The Ki-45 is nearest to the camera, yet still seems extremely small. The B-29 under attack has its rear bomb bay doors open. The B-29 furthest from the camera is in a climbing left hand turn.
The KI-45 is 36' in length and has a 49' wingspan. The B-29 has a length of 99'.
In the photo, the KI-45 measures 3.5cm in length, while the B-29 measures 16cm. If this were an accurate photo, the B-29 should only measure 10.5 cm.
Anyone care to comment?
(Measurements were taken when I zoomed in on MS paint. The ratio of the plane lengths is wrong. Your measurements will be different depending on how much you zoom in)
I believe that you may be right.... Here's the original photo and a correct to scale drawing of both aircraft. I had a 3 view of the Ki-46, which has the same length and span as the Ki-45. So, the relationship is the same. In terms of length, the ratio is 2.75 to 1. The photo shows a ratio of about 4.5 to 1. Moreover, the Ki-45 is directly under the fuselage of the B-29. Decide for yourselves if this image was not "created".....
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/34/guh3.jpg)
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0c8a/wu8y74rcprtg994fg.jpg)
Added this one for contrast to the original. FiFi escorted by a Zero (Planes of Fame) and a P-51D. Note that the zero looks as large or larger than the Ki-45, and it's to the opposite side of the B-29.
(http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/eacc/97u9og69fn44e1gfg.jpg)
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I can't see how that Ki-45 got into that position. Maybe the angle is weird, but it looks like he would have had to pass within a few feet of the front of the B29 he's below, which implies he came within milliseconds of colliding.
The discrepancy is probably due to the camera angle of the photographer in relation to the B-29s and the Ki-45, making it seem like the Ki-45 was a lot closer to the B-29 than it probably actually was.
ack-ack
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The discrepancy is probably due to the camera angle of the photographer in relation to the B-29s and the Ki-45, making it seem like the Ki-45 was a lot closer to the B-29 than it probably actually was.
ack-ack
Hard to see how. The Ki-45 is placed between the camera and the B-29, yet the Ki-45 is significantly smaller than it should be given that spatial relationship and its actual size as compared to a B-29's actual size.
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Yes, the photo only makes sense if the Ki is further away from the camera than the central B29 but that would mean the B29s wing would occlude (block) the Ki fuselage, which it doesn't. The photo doesn't make sense.
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This image was likely retouched as a composite.....
(http://www.trismegistus.se/forum/NARA/B29%2Bjaktplan%202.jpg)
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The whole picture is strange. Why does the center B-29 only have it's rear bomb bay doors open? Why is the B-29 in the top left hand of the picture in a climbing bank? Very strange. I agree with the composite idea.
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US Intelligence, "photoshopping pics" before the phrase was even created.
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US Intelligence, "photoshopping pics" before the phrase was even created.
Well. That photo goes way back, certainly I saw it long before personal computers were invented.
- oldman
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US Intelligence, "photoshopping pics" before the phrase was even created.
I've seen a German created composite propaganda photo from the Battle of Britain.
Composite photos are pretty old.
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Composite photos are pretty old.
By WW2, "edited" photos had been already around for decades.
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Don't forget photographer is prob taking the pic from a glass bubble
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There is a reasonably chance that he was trying to collide. The Japanese did use kamikaze attacks against B-29s. Even the Germans finally resorted to them at the end, though if I recall the Germans gave lip service to the pilot surviving the collision.
It took a set of titanium balls to do that. http://youtu.be/Z_nAjPLlCKk
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I believe that is a J1N1 not a Ki46, that might explain the size issues.
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cool picture