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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: ML52 on January 31, 2014, 02:27:12 AM
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Has anyone made a skin for the jug for this group?
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The easiest way to find out is to look in-game, if you want one done you can post some pictures and information here and maybe someone will fulfill your request
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ML52,
You might look around for some actual wartime pictures of 332nd Jugs. It seems only two squadron the 100th and 302nd out of the Group operated them and that was only for one month before switching to P-51s.
I found some art work on the internet but a good skinner will want photos to help them get a historic final product.
(http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/warbirds-of-the-332nd-fg-jerry-taliaferro.jpg)
(http://www.iart7.com/WARBIRDS/gallery%20photos/p47d302fs.jpg)
Benjamin O Davis and his P-47.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Col_Benjamin_Oliver_Davis%2C_Jr.jpg)
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Very rare to find pictures of this group when it comes to P-47's.
You will have better luck finding photos of the P-39's they flew.
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This is a super color photo of a 57th FG Black Scorpions P-47D 22/23 "hand me down" to the 332nd. They just added the red to the tail, left the Scorpions emblem on the nose and yellow mto stripe on the tail. The 332nd ship attack was actually done with Thunderbolts, not P-51s as represented recently.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/P47-57FG-GR45_zps5ee2fa59.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/Urbanflotsom1/media/P47-57FG-GR45_zps5ee2fa59.jpg.html)
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wasnt there multiple red sqauds...like 4 or something......how many aces did the 4 sqauds produce?
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No aces but a few with 4 kills. Here is a link with more squad details:
http://acepilots.com/usaaf_tusk.html
99th Ftr Sqn
Edward L. Toppins, 4
Charles B. Hall, 3
Leonard M. Jackson, 3
Clarence W. Allen, 0.5
Willie Ashley, Jr., 1
Charles P. Bailey, 1
Howard L. Baugh, 1
Thomas P. Braswell, 1
Wm. A. Campbell, 1
John W. Davis, 1
Lemuel L. Curtis, 1
Robert W. Dier, 2
Elwood T. Driver, 1
Wilson V. Eagleson, 2
James L. Hall, 1
Clinton B. Mills, 1
Daniel L. Rich, 1
Leon C. Roberts, 1
Lewis C. Smith, 1
Hugh J. White, 1
100th Ftr Sqn
Raul W. Bell, 1
Charles V. Brantley, 1
John F. Briggs, 1
Roscoe C. Browne, 2
Richard W. Hall, 1
Jack D. Hosclaw, 2
Carl E. Johnson, 1
Langdon E. Johnson, 1
Earl R. Lane, 2
Clarence D. Lester, 2
John H. Lyle, 1
Walter J.A. Palmer, 1
Geo. M. Rhodes, Jr., 1
Robert W. Williams, 2
Bertram W. Wilson, Jr. 1
301st Ftr Sqn
Joseph D. Elsberry, 4
Carl E. Corey, 2
John E. Edwards, 2
James H. Fischer, 1
Fred. D. Funderburg, 2
Alfred M. Gorham, 2
Claude Govan, 1
Thomas W. Jefferson, 2
Jimmy Lanham, 2
Armour G. McDaniel, 1
Walter P. Manning, 1
Harold M. Morris, 1
William S. Price, III, 1
Harold E. Sawyer, 1
Harry T. Stewart, 2
Charles L. White, 2
302nd Ftr Sqn
Lee A. Archer, 4
Wendell O. Pruitt, 3
Roger Romaine, 3
Milton P. Brooks, 1
Charles W. Bussey, 1
Edward C. Gleed, 2
Wm. W. Green, Jr., 2
Weldon K. Groves, 1
William L. Hill, 1
Freddie F. Hutchins, 1
Melvin T. Jackson, 1
Felix J. Kirkpatrick, 1
Charles E. McGee, 1
Luther H. Smith, Jr., 2
Robert H. Smith, 2
William H. Thomas, 1
Hugh S. Warner, 1
Luke J. Weather, Jr., 2
L. D. Wilkins, 1
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wasnt there multiple red sqauds...like 4 or something......how many aces did the 4 sqauds produce?
Why would you ask a question you know the answer to? You made the post below back in June.
redtails? wernt they 3 squadrons stong and never produced an ace(5 kills) for the entire war? :rofl
Exactly what is the point you are trying to make?
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This is a super color photo of a 57th FG Black Scorpions P-47D 22/23 "hand me down" to the 332nd. They just added the red to the tail, left the Scorpions emblem on the nose and yellow mto stripe on the tail. The 332nd ship attack was actually done with Thunderbolts, not P-51s as represented recently.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/P47-57FG-GR45_zps5ee2fa59.jpg) (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/Urbanflotsom1/media/P47-57FG-GR45_zps5ee2fa59.jpg.html)
Nice find. :aok
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the point i am trying to make, is these few sqaudrons get way too much attention then they deserve...and why? is it white guilt,i dont know, but i know one thing,i am not responsible,and have no guilt. AND i believe everyone should be equal and those who have done great deads should be celebrated.....WHO ever they are. there were actually women pilots that flew in the war and had kills(aces), i never hear about them....also there were handicapped pilots,that had kills(aces) that do not recieve as much attention. i find this a tragedy of humanity...other ethnic groups flew under terrible conditions and against overwhelming odds...and yet...not a word about them.. if anything paying too much attention to a particular group because of skin color is reverse predjudice...i sure am not going to jump on a band wagon...any band wagon , because it is the current trend or "in " thing to do. i did a little research on the redtails and also noticed they had exactly 2(two) kills in all of 1943, all other kills were in 1944 and 1945,when the axis airforce was on the decline both in quantity and quality. and in some cases the kills they have were aircraft that were parked on the ground and in an unknown condition of flyablity. and so the question is WHO were they shooting down....was it an equal fair fight? or was it a horde versus a few planes.? it dosent matter to me,but i find it interesting that IN game these are the very things that i see many pilots whining about......i dont whine about it,and i dont whine about HO'ing or vulching......of which i have been both a participant and a victim. its a game,have fun, leave your baggage at the door before entering the game
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the point i am trying to make, is these few sqaudrons get way too much attention then they deserve...and why? is it white guilt,i dont know, but i know one thing,i am not responsible,and have no guilt. AND i believe everyone should be equal and those who have done great deads should be celebrated.....WHO ever they are. there were actually women pilots that flew in the war and had kills(aces), i never hear about them....also there were handicapped pilots,that had kills(aces) that do not recieve as much attention. i find this a tragedy of humanity...other ethnic groups flew under terrible conditions and against overwhelming odds...and yet...not a word about them.. if anything paying too much attention to a particular group because of skin color is reverse predjudice...i sure am not going to jump on a band wagon...any band wagon , because it is the current trend or "in " thing to do. i did a little research on the redtails and also noticed they had exactly 2(two) kills in all of 1943, all other kills were in 1944 and 1945,when the axis airforce was on the decline both in quantity and quality. and in some cases the kills they have were aircraft that were parked on the ground and in an unknown condition of flyablity. and so the question is WHO were they shooting down....was it an equal fair fight? or was it a horde versus a few planes.? it dosent matter to me,but i find it interesting that IN game these are the very things that i see many pilots whining about......i dont whine about it,and i dont whine about HO'ing or vulching......of which i have been both a participant and a victim. its a game,have fun, leave your baggage at the door before entering the game
White Guilt? It appears as if you're the guy with the baggage. You brought this up in the skins forum why?? If the 332nd is brought up you seem to need to make a stink about it. This time you tried to act like you didn't know anything about them before launching into the same basic diatribe as you posted back in June. You even admitted you've done research, so your first question was nothing more than a ploy to help you start on another of your little rants. The 332nd has one skin in the game. A guy asked for a second one and it's jumping on a band wagon when we have some squadrons in the game with with more than six skins? If having a second skin for the 332nd is jumping on the band wagon white guilt or reverse predjudice then all squadrons should only have one skin in game.
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The story of the 332nd is not just another squadron story. Those pilots performed their mission remarkably in the face of institutionalized and cultural bigotry, still a part of our country's fabric which you so deftly demonstrate alpini. Their story is more dynamic and interesting on a human level to many, like it or not, as a chapter in the endeavor to recognize that all men are created equal.
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Does anyone know which of the four 332nd FG squadrons the No 38 aircraft in the photo above was assigned to?
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Does anyone know which of the four 332nd FG squadrons the No 38 aircraft in the photo above was assigned to?
Greebo~
It's sister ship "Black 38" was in the 302nd FS. Can't find a specific for Black 39.
~Seadog36
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See Rule #14
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Alpini, nice rant. :rolleyes: Where does the Jug skin fit into all of that?
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Unacceptable Alpini13
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lol,you guys are funny, i noticed you could not defend against any of the other points in my reply., only the one you are focused on....
You mean the one you're focused on. You're the one that keeps bringing it up. The rest of your rant was just the spewing of garbage in a lame attempt to hide the fact that you really have a bug up your arse about the 332nd for whatever reason. None of this belongs in a skin request thread.
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I was shocked until I read who posted it. :rolleyes:
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lol, alpini's arguments seldom if ever have any merit. that last bit of his nonsense sounds a lot like the ancient world under 1000 years of roman occupation...
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I'll skin the No 38 aircraft in the photo. Probably won't be for a couple of months though, got a lot of other stuff to do.
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I'll skin the No 38 aircraft in the photo. Probably won't be for a couple of months though, got a lot of other stuff to do.
That's a good looking bird. :aok
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I'll skin the No 38 aircraft in the photo. Probably won't be for a couple of months though, got a lot of other stuff to do.
That will be great, hopefully HTC is working on the P47D-21/23 variant that it and all the other bare metal skins belong on. :salute :salute :aok :aok
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I'll skin the No 38 aircraft in the photo. Probably won't be for a couple of months though, got a lot of other stuff to do.
Greebo, did you ever skin this?
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Greebo, did you ever skin this?
Yes, I've skinned and submitted it. The thread for it is here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,360418.0.html).
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could've sworn the 332nd had an ACE
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could've sworn the 332nd had an ACE
They do. Lt. Lee Archer had 5 kills.