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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: HornetUK on February 02, 2014, 05:28:55 AM
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We have A heavy RAF bomber and many US Bomber, would be great to have a German Bomber so I suggest the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor, also it could be used as a transport plus it is armed!
Specifications (Fw 200C-3/U4)
Data from Warplanes of the Luftwaffe
General characteristics
Crew: five
Capacity: 30 fully armed troops in transport configuration
Length: 23.45 m (76 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 32.85 m (107 ft 9 in)
Height: 6.30 m (20 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 119.85 m² (1,290 ft²)
Empty weight: 17,005 kg (37,490 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 24,520 kg (50,057 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × BMW/Bramo 323R-2 nine-cylinder single-row air-cooled radial engine, 895 kW (1,200hp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 360 km/h (195 knots, 224 mph) at 4,800 m (15,750 ft)[14]
Cruise speed: 335 km/h (181 knots, 208 mph) at 4,000 m (13,100 ft) (Max cruise)
Range: 3,560 km (1,923 nmi, 2,212 mi)
Endurance: 14 hrs
Service ceiling: 6,000 m (19,700 ft)
Armament
Guns:
1 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon in forward gondola
4 × 13 mm MG 131 machine gun (dorsal and waist positions)
Bombs: Up to 2,100 kg (4,360 lb) of bombs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_200 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_200)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/German_Military_Aircraft_1939-1945_CH16122.jpg?uselang=en-gb)
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Its a nice looking bird, but its no Heavy bomber.
Its bomb load is about the same as the current bombers, its slower, better defensive guns but not by that much. And I remember reading that they had a weak fuselage which sometimes broke up on landing.
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But it is also a transport as well which is armed so you get two aircaft types for 1 aircaft
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I can think of nothing negative by adding this AC.
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Did this bomber ever drop the Fritz-X?
If so, this bird with that weapon, perked heavily of course, would be an awesome add. That weapon would also likely be a perked option for both the Ju-88 and He-111.
boo
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Did this bomber ever drop the Fritz-X?
If so, this bird with that weapon, perked heavily of course, would be an awesome add. That weapon would also likely be a perked option for both the Ju-88 and He-111.
It would not. Only the Do-217 and perhaps the He 177 did ever carry this weapon operationally. You may be thinking of the HS 293.
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(http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Bilder/He177/He177A5-1.jpg)
Add the HE-117 instead.
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(http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Bilder/He177/He177A5-1.jpg)
Add the HE-177 instead.
I love this man
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Do 217 or Ju-188 should be the next new aircraft to be added.
Do 217 would probably be a better MA performer, due to larger internal bomb load, and a higher speed. But the Ju-188 would be better for special events, historical coverage, and still wouldn't be a slouch in the MA.
For the Do 217, imagine TU 2 with a B-24's bombload and maneuverability.
For the Ju-188, imagine, imagine a Ju-88 on roids, with 13mm mg's and a 20mm cannon (Note, it has the same internal ordnance loadout as the Ju-88).
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Gone off topic here, my suggestion if is a total different sort of thing bomber / transport all in one not just another bomber!
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Gone off topic here, my suggestion if is a total different sort of thing bomber / transport all in one not just another bomber!
Highly unlikely that a combined bomber/transport that is faster than the C-47 will be added. Ju52 is probably the only other transport that has a shot at being added.
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Is it faster than a C47? What is it top speed
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+1
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The dedicated transport variant of the Fw 200 was unarmed and there were few of them made. While the armed variants may have been used for transport from time to time you could say that about other bombers as well, some of which are in AH already. If you allow the armed Fw 200 to transport stuff, why not He 111s, Lancs or G4Ms as well?
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We have A heavy RAF bomber and many US Bomber, would be great to have a German Bomber so I suggest the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor, also it could be used as a transport plus it is armed!
Specifications (Fw 200C-3/U4)
Data from Warplanes of the Luftwaffe
General characteristics
Crew: five
Capacity: 30 fully armed troops in transport configuration
Length: 23.45 m (76 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 32.85 m (107 ft 9 in)
Height: 6.30 m (20 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 119.85 m² (1,290 ft²)
Empty weight: 17,005 kg (37,490 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 24,520 kg (50,057 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × BMW/Bramo 323R-2 nine-cylinder single-row air-cooled radial engine, 895 kW (1,200hp) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 360 km/h (195 knots, 224 mph) at 4,800 m (15,750 ft)[14]
Cruise speed: 335 km/h (181 knots, 208 mph) at 4,000 m (13,100 ft) (Max cruise)
Range: 3,560 km (1,923 nmi, 2,212 mi)
Endurance: 14 hrs
Service ceiling: 6,000 m (19,700 ft)
Armament
Guns:
1 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon in forward gondola
4 × 13 mm MG 131 machine gun (dorsal and waist positions)
Bombs: Up to 2,100 kg (4,360 lb) of bombs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_200 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_200)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/German_Military_Aircraft_1939-1945_CH16122.jpg?uselang=en-gb)
+1.
LtCondor
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Well its nice to see all this Bomber enthusiasm. I agree, a new German Bomber would be nice.
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We have the Ju-88 series which was one of the Germany work horse , lots of variants of this model was made some in low numbers but 1 that caught my eye was the Ju-88 C6 , based on the A4 series which we use was also a heavy fighter and night fighter .The heavy fighter version with improved guns ,Jumo 211J engines had over 900 units built that would also include the night fighter version in those numbers . Adding the Ju-88 variants would be nice...
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Always liked the Condor. Didn't it also carry torpedoes, as well? Yes, the HE-117 or the Ju-188 might be better bombers, but the Condor was historically important in the Battle for the Atlantic. As I recall, didn't the He-117 have serious engine problems that delayed it's entry into operations and limited it's impact, or am I thinking of another A/C?
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-1 not needed
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-1 not needed
Not that I disagree with the position, but that is rather hypocritical of you. You have been advocating for an Italian hybrid bomber/transport using the very same arguments about getting to aircraft for the price of one, despite the fact that, like the Fw200, it would result in a very poor performing bomber.
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The Fw 200 would probably be better than his transport-bomber :lol.
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The Fw 200 would probably be better than his transport-bomber :lol.
It would be. The biggest flaw in his request, in my opinion, is that it would doom the Italian set to go forward for the rest of the game's life with a substantially less effective bomber than they would otherwise have, and the best they can hope for isn't exactly staggeringly effective.
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At the end of the days chaps this is bring viresty to the game.
The way I look at it AH could make vertualy do one aircaft and bring out two different variants of the aircaft in the game. We only have 1 dedicated transport aircaft and I get feed up with flying it, it would be great to have a second.
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An FW-200 would be fine but I would rather see the Italian S.M.79-1 Sparviero bomber first. :aok
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we need another transport as well. the fact as it can really be used as for both is the who point
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we need another transport as well. the fact as it can really be used as for both is the who point
Ju52 is really the only serious candidate for an additional transport.