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Title: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: USRanger on February 05, 2014, 05:21:48 PM

Neat film. Nice jet.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/good-to-share/10592646/What-is-it-like-to-fly-a-Typhoon-fighter-jet.html

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: DaveBB on February 05, 2014, 05:35:51 PM

Delta winged aircraft lose a much higher amount of speed in turns than conventional winged aircraft.  Anyone know the mechanism behind this?

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: GScholz on February 05, 2014, 06:30:27 PM

If it was significant no one would use them. Most military jets have delta wings in one configuration or another. The F-16 for example is a clipped delta with a conventional tail; basically the same setup as the MiG-21.

Very nice video!  :aok

(http://www.flynytt.no/files/content/news/Bernt%20Balchen/Store/DSC_0456.JPG)

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: USRanger on February 05, 2014, 06:34:33 PM

I like how he mentions how many G's he's pulling in each turn/bank/roll.

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: GScholz on February 05, 2014, 06:36:50 PM

Yeah, and I also wonder what those motorists down in the valley were thinking when those jets flew overhead at 400+ knots!

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: BnZs on February 05, 2014, 09:25:10 PM

Quote from: DaveBB on February 05, 2014, 05:35:51 PM

Delta winged aircraft lose a much higher amount of speed in turns than conventional winged aircraft.  Anyone know the mechanism behind this?

More thrust than weight renders this less relevant. Most of the later generations of air superiority fighters can lay on their side and pull more Gs than the pilot can stand until the fuel runs out.

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: DaveBB on February 06, 2014, 02:23:10 AM

Found my answer.  True delta winged aircraft (not the cranked delta of the F-16) experience much higher drag at higher angles of attack than conventional winged aircraft.

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: mbailey on February 06, 2014, 05:52:16 AM

IMHO not since the Phantom has a jet been made that looks like that big kid down the block that wants to pick on everyone.....The guy no one wants to tangle with for fear of getting their butt stomped.........With the development of the Typhoon....i think the Big kid is back  :D  Love the lines on that bird....and it just looks like it wants to fight sitting still.   I see the Typhoon and cant help to hear De niro's voice in my head...."You looking at me?" 

Great find Ranger  :aok

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: FTJR on February 06, 2014, 11:50:30 PM

All I could think of was what a beautiful day to fly.  Was that the g buffet I could hear through the hard turns?

Great find Ranger, thanks.

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: GScholz on February 07, 2014, 01:08:08 PM

Quote from: DaveBB on February 06, 2014, 02:23:10 AM

Found my answer.  True delta winged aircraft (not the cranked delta of the F-16) experience much higher drag at higher angles of attack than conventional winged aircraft.

The F-16 does not have a cranked arrow wing. It has a clipped (or cropped) delta and is a tailed delta design.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26232318/deltawingtypes.PNG)


The experimental F-16XL had a cranked arrow wing design.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/F-16xl.jpg)

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: DaveBB on February 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM

Quote

The wing planform of the F-16 is effectively that of a cropped delta with a 40-degree leading edge sweep.

It is also called a "cranked delta".

http://www.f16falcon.com/facts/f16_5.html

Title: Re: What it's like to fly in a Typhoon (the current one)
Post by: GScholz on February 07, 2014, 08:56:25 PM

Quote from: DaveBB on February 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM

It is also called a "cranked delta".

http://www.f16falcon.com/facts/f16_5.html

I don't know if you meant to post that, but to me it reads "cropped delta". It doesn't say "cranked" anywhere on that page.