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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: ebfd11 on February 11, 2014, 02:37:26 PM
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Well saitek has come out wit a new stick.. comes with 4 seperate springs to customize tensions and manany upgrades ...http://www.saitek.com/x55/ ..
Lawndart
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cant wait to try it to replace my pos ch fighterstick.
semp
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it's a saitek...owned by madcatz.
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it's a saitek...owned by madcatz.
And made in China.
ack-ack
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I don't care where it's made, there will be one on my coffee table when they come out. Nice stick!
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It looks like a whole lot of stick for $200.
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Ehhh....
I could get rid of the $20 Thrustmaster for something nicer....
But I like my Thrustmaster. I'll hang onto it until it dies.
Then maybe I'll buy this. :)
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And made in China.
ack-ack
:lol true...but i don't know of many consumer electronics that aren't. my problem with madcatz is that they made a lot of knock off junk for consoles and i wouldn't be surprised if that same quality was put into the saitek sticks.
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:lol true...but i don't know of many consumer electronics that aren't. my problem with madcatz is that they made a lot of knock off junk for consoles and i wouldn't be surprised if that same quality was put into the saitek sticks.
I love my x52, but it was purchased just before Madcatz bought them out. I like the look of the new stick, looks to me like a poor man's warthog, but I'm really concerned about their quality now. I remember seeing some of their console stuff in stores and it really was unimpressive to me.
I'm definitely waiting on reviews of the new one before I consider it as a replacement for my current one, which is still working close enough to fine after 7 years or so.
Wiley.
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One on pre order... :banana: :banana:
Lawndart
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brave soul...make sure you give us a review after you get a chance to use it.
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Jusr got off the phone with saitek rep... they are willing to send me one if I do an unboxing and review for them. So if all goes well I will have one before they pre ship.
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:eek: you hound you...that's very cool. i no got de scratch or i would give them a call.
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Well Joe from Saitek just called me back and the deal is this... I must use the setup on 3 different flight sims and get an overall feel for the controller.I am to give feedback overall on the stickand give the info to Saitek so they can fix anything via software or hardware. They want me to tell the the good bad and the ugly..
So lets see what 3 sims do I have...
Flight Simulator X..... great real world sim...
X wing... too many plane I have downloaded to get rid of it....
Rise of Flight... ehhh so so
I know I have one more flight sim I could use this on... but i can't remember what it is called... Dueces Low???? 9's middle????
Ohhh I know ... Aces High... LOL
Ohh so you gents and Semp kniow I will be paying for this just like you will.. (But getting it earlier)
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No thanks, I'll stick with my Thrustmaster Warthog.
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My pre-order is in. Ships 4/3, it said. perfect birthday present.
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Well Im real tempted to buy it. I missed an easy shot from KI67s tonight and while I'll place the main blame on me sucking this X52 is so dang herky jerky.
I need a smooth stick. So I can suck less.
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I preordered last night from Netherlands. My x52 pro is spiking badly.. 211 shipped. Not too bad if its ok. I like x52 handle and rotaries more than warthog.
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CH sticks look poo but are very good :old:
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Just got mine this afternoon. Have only messed with the Throttle so far as that is pretty much all I wanted from it. Thing is huge, throttle is very tight. Haven't tried flying with it yet, but the buttons on back of throttle feel like they might be in the way when trying to work the throttle in a fight, but like I said, haven't used it that way yet. It is pretty, lights are very bright, it is not a metal casing so it is fairly light. Game recognized it as an X55 rhino without downloading any drivers, but when I first plugged it into the computer it didn't recognize it (least that's what a pop up message said, still AH recognized it though). Thumb 4 way buttons are very sensitive and are very close together so may be a problem if you have thick digits. You do have to take your hand off it to reach some toggle levers or use some rotary dials. Ask any specific questions and I will try to answer them. :salute
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It has different springs right? To lighten the tension?
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Just got mine this afternoon. Have only messed with the Throttle so far as that is pretty much all I wanted from it. Thing is huge, throttle is very tight. Haven't tried flying with it yet, but the buttons on back of throttle feel like they might be in the way when trying to work the throttle in a fight, but like I said, haven't used it that way yet. It is pretty, lights are very bright, it is not a metal casing so it is fairly light. Game recognized it as an X55 rhino without downloading any drivers, but when I first plugged it into the computer it didn't recognize it (least that's what a pop up message said, still AH recognized it though). Thumb 4 way buttons are very sensitive and are very close together so may be a problem if you have thick digits. You do have to take your hand off it to reach some toggle levers or use some rotary dials. Ask any specific questions and I will try to answer them. :salute
its gonna come out April 2nd where did you get it from ?
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its gonna come out April 2nd where did you get it from ?
I am confused now. I received the x55 rhino, is that the new one coming out or is the X65 the new one? I had it in my mind the higher number was the new one. :headscratch:
Anyway, I just pre ordered it from their site when they opened up sales and got it yesterday. If it was supposed to be the X65 that is the new one I will have to double check things.
It has different springs right? To lighten the tension?
Yes, the X55 came with 4 springs of varying length and thickness, but it will be a little bit till I get to checking the stick out.
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You got the new one. X55 is newer than X65f which was force-sensing stick. It is discontinued AFAIK.
How smooth is the joystick when making fine adjustments during aiming?
My X52pro is damned irritating when zooming in and taking careful aim. It just spikes around, no worth trying to aim at anything.
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Hall effects mod will sort spiking out :old:
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Nope. I added magnets, tightened everything and still the stick spikes and acts odd. Maybe I should change the sensors next. Or not.
Anyways I already ordered X55 and I will pass this X52pro to someone else. The throttle is best I ever have used tho.
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Added magnets?
You take that stupid rack and pinion out, which does absolutly nothing :rofl
And then use a sticky tab to stick one magnet in the middle of the sensor region :)
No bounce :banana:
It wont make you as awesome or good looking as me :rofl
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Just got notice, mine is shipping today. Can't wait. :joystick:
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Thanks , IŽll try that one next. WonŽt lose anything! :cheers:
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can we get any useful feed back from the guys who already received and start using their x55s ?
pros , cons etc...
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Just received X55 yesterday - was ready to hook up when squall line hit so maybe tonight (power out going to generator) - seems pretty nice - however as previous post noted toggles on throttle (just a couple) are blocked a little at full power on throttle - computer (old XP 32bit ) had no problems recognizing it - will try to set up tonight for AH - will keep ya'll posted
HAVE FUN :salute
:cheers:
HP51
PS: Hall sensor mod on X52 (stacking the magnets worked for a long time) - failure causing sticking for me is in the rotational axis area - will have it apart to see after getting this one up.
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I still use my 10 year old Saitek ST-290 with two bad buttons. I am retired and money for a new computer or even a new stick is a low priority. :frown:
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I have two ST290 in loft they unusualy good but buttons fell off :old:
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When you ordered and it was delivered how much time did it take for the x-55?
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any feed backs gents ?
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I finally got my x52pro modded correctly with bluetac and magnets. Now its better than ever. Smooth fighting possible without accidental stalls!
I think I may just save 200 and cancel the order on x55
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I finally got my x52pro modded correctly with bluetac and magnets. Now its better than ever. Smooth fighting possible without accidental stalls!
I think I may just save 200 and cancel the order on x55
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Hurrah!
There is also a thread about making inserts for tighting spring strength
And using tiebacks to make spring lighter
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I don't care where it's made, there will be one on my coffee table when they come out. Nice stick!
Why not buy one from your own country you cheap git, seriously people wonder why they have no jobs anymore? :rofl
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Why not buy one from your own country you cheap git, seriously people wonder why they have no jobs anymore? :rofl
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about that. There's still plenty of us who can't buy domestic gaming gear, thus obviously profiting your fellow countrymen. :bolt:
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My X-55 arrived today. Downloaded drivers all went well. Initial impressions:
The stick feels solid, and pretty well built.
The interchangeable springs are superb, I tries all 4 and just like Goldilocks, found the one that was juuuuuust right.
If you're used to the X-52, as I've been for some time, there's a little adjusting to do to get used to the new layout, but it's coming along quickly.
So far, my only complaint is the lack of the 2 stage trigger that the X-52 has. I really like the ability to fire just my 20's when I'm porkin bases in my 110.
There's a plethora of toggles, switches wheels, buttons an turny knobs, probably more than I'll ever use, but I love the options.
I will write up a full review once I've flown it for a say or two, will post pictures also.
Initially, I'd highly recommend this stick for those who have the money.
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My X-55 arrived today. Downloaded drivers all went well. Initial impressions:
The stick feels solid, and pretty well built.
The interchangeable springs are superb, I tries all 4 and just like Goldilocks, found the one that was juuuuuust right.
If you're used to the X-52, as I've been for some time, there's a little adjusting to do to get used to the new layout, but it's coming along quickly.
So far, my only complaint is the lack of the 2 stage trigger that the X-52 has. I really like the ability to fire just my 20's when I'm porkin bases in my 110.
There's a plethora of toggles, switches wheels, buttons an turny knobs, probably more than I'll ever use, but I love the options.
I will write up a full review once I've flown it for a say or two, will post pictures also.
Initially, I'd highly recommend this stick for those who have the money.
Thanks for the feedback, just placed my order for one. :)
:rock
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My X-55 arrived today. Downloaded drivers all went well. Initial impressions:
The stick feels solid, and pretty well built.
The interchangeable springs are superb, I tries all 4 and just like Goldilocks, found the one that was juuuuuust right.
If you're used to the X-52, as I've been for some time, there's a little adjusting to do to get used to the new layout, but it's coming along quickly.
So far, my only complaint is the lack of the 2 stage trigger that the X-52 has. I really like the ability to fire just my 20's when I'm porkin bases in My 110.
There's a plethora of toggles, switches wheels, buttons an turny knobs, probably more than I'll ever use, but I love the options.
I will write up a full review once I've flown it for a say or two, will post pictures also.
Initially, I'd highly recommend this stick for those who have the money.
My X55 arrived today. Feels very crisp with no nose bounce when firing. It did not have a disc to download . So I went to training arena and it immediately recognized the stick. The only problem I see is getting used to new layout.
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I'm finding that I'm getting used too the layout relatively quickly. Don't know if it's me, or that the layout is pretty good. Probably a combination of them both. So far, I'm recommending the stick.
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I'm finding that I'm getting used too the layout relatively quickly. Don't know if it's me, or that the layout is pretty good. Probably a combination of them both. So far, I'm recommending the stick.
I'd like to know, how is the throttle? All of the switches nice, a good firm throttle? That's really what got me to buy the stick.
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The split throttle can be locked to make one throttle. The tension(resistance) is adjustable and there are switches and toggles on the base and 2 wheels with buttons in the center, llie the X52 throttles, and multiple other switches and buttons on the throttle also. There are many more programmable options on this thing than most people would use flyin AH2 :)
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The split throttle can be locked to make one throttle. The tension(resistance) is adjustable and there are switches and toggles on the base and 2 wheels with buttons in the center, llie the X52 throttles, and multiple other switches and buttons on the throttle also. There are many more programmable options on this thing than most people would use flyin AH2 :)
Heard from somebody the switches on the throttle are only momentary... You do have to hold them down?
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They act like any other switches in game, like pressing a button. They don't stay in an on or off position, they don't need to. I think that they are toggle like so that they're easily reachable.You can reach a good number of them with a thumb or finger, without taking your hand off the throttle.
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They act like any other switches in game, like pressing a button. They don't stay in an on or off position, they don't need to. I think that they are toggle like so that they're easily reachable.You can reach a good number of them with a thumb or finger, without taking your hand off the throttle.
Ah. So they act as buttons. Thanks Copprhed. :cheers:
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Is this a twisty stick?
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Yes it is, if you like.
It goes on sale tomorrow in the Netherlands....
Doubtful to get one.... Just want the throttle .... :devil
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It has a twisty just like the X52
Yesterday the throttle was either off or full on this was fixed by going into settings and setting it to default.
Today cannot get gvs out of first gear no solution yet.
The toggle switches work just like a button although sw1 is a little too close to the throttle and my watch catches on it.
I've been able to program zoom toggle and flaps to sliders on the throttle. Was never able to do that on old stick.
The unit is heavier than old X52 and doesn't seem to require suction cups on the bottom to keep it from sliding on the desk.
Right out of the box it worked with windows seven.
The three hats switches on the throttle seem to work smoother and were easy to program
The controls are a little stiffer but very smooth.
Overall quality appears to be good and what you would expect from a product of this price.
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The split throttle can be locked to make one throttle. The tension(resistance) is adjustable and there are switches and toggles on the base and 2 wheels with buttons in the center, llie the X52 throttles, and multiple other switches and buttons on the throttle also. There are many more programmable options on this thing than most people would use flyin AH2 :)
Coppr,
can you describe "heaviness" on the throttle for me? I run a X45 throttle on the easiest resistance I could adjust without releasing the spring / screw inside.
If I snip my finger at it it moves. Is the 55 supersoft, soft medium or hard to move around? At softest setting?
Can you adjust each lever independently or only both ?
The throttle is asymmetric shaped. If you put one lever full up and want to keep going up and down on the other, does it compromise your freedom of movement or gets in the way?
Thx a lot in advance!
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is the trigger a two step like in the x52?
semp
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Barkhorn, the throttle can be either two or one. There's a pin that you move in or out to lock them together. They move easily, at lowest tension, you can lean the throttle back or forward and they will move to it.
No, the trigger is single stage, my only complaint so far.
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It has a twisty just like the X52
Yesterday the throttle was either off or full on this was fixed by going into settings and setting it to default.
Today cannot get gvs out of first gear no solution yet.
The toggle switches work just like a button although sw1 is a little too close to the throttle and my watch catches on it.
I've been able to program zoom toggle and flaps to sliders on the throttle. Was never able to do that on old stick.
The unit is heavier than old X52 and doesn't seem to require suction cups on the bottom to keep it from sliding on the desk.
Right out of the box it worked with windows seven.
The three hats switches on the throttle seem to work smoother and were easy to program
The controls are a little stiffer but very smooth.
Overall quality appears to be good and what you would expect from a product of this price.
GVS won't come out of first if the game see any type of turn. If you twist a bit it will not shift. Try increasing the dead band for the twist.
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GVS won't come out of first if the game see any type of turn. If you twist a bit it will not shift. Try increasing the dead band for the twist.
Problem was solved by re- calibrating stick
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Problem was solved by re- calibrating stick
Recalibrating may have solved the problem but as fugi has said you might want to increase the deadpan for the twist axis. This will increase the centering of the stick and will help stop any little twist inputs that can "stick" the GV in gear.
Presonally I setup a 4 way hat and a shift button,this lets me work it like the keyboard ASWD comands and my JS only works the gun. I know everyone likes things "their" way and dont have a problem with that at all.
Since my warthog throttle went Kaput,I was thinking of getting a X55 for the throttle,I really liked the throttle for the X52,but I think I'll wait to hear how things go for the guys who already own X55's!
Cane I saw you in the TA and was going to ask about your stick but was too busy at the time,maybe next time you can fill me in on it!
:salute
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Latest on X55:
The X axis, controlling the ailerons, has gone completely dead. I have a repair ticket in with Saitek, so we'll see what's up. This is rather surprising, to say the least. :mad:
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Latest on X55:
The X axis, controlling the ailerons, has gone completely dead. I have a repair ticket in with Saitek, so we'll see what's up. This is rather surprising, to say the least. :mad:
lol... I am leaning back towards to FBM again...
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Cancelled my order today. I managed to convince myself that I will not need new stick now that my x52pro is working well.
I will use the money into RC batteries instead... :angel:
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Latest on X55:
The X axis, controlling the ailerons, has gone completely dead. I have a repair ticket in with Saitek, so we'll see what's up. This is rather surprising, to say the least. :mad:
That is very generous said.....
:furious :furious :furious :bhead :bhead :bhead :furious :furious :furious
:devil
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Cancelled my order today. I managed to convince myself that I will not need new stick now that my x52pro is working well.
I will use the money into RC batteries instead... :angel:
$13 was my fee :old:
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Sainte sticks are the worst you can get
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I disagree, that they're bad sticks. I've gotten my RMA, they will send me a new stick. This is satisfactory, especially since it's a brand new product, not even offered except by pre-order. They're dealing with it politely and quickly. I've actually talked to an AMERICAN. Will continue to update as needed.
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Sainte sticks are the worst you can get
I seem to have gone thru 3 ch fightersticks with less use than my x52.
semp
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How big are your hands? :old:
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I seem to have gone thru 3 ch fightersticks with less use than my x52.
semp
Have my CH Fighterstick since 2004...pedals also. Needed some cleaning but works fine :aok
Interested in the throttle mostly. Are those metal switches to reach with your hand on one or both throttles?
That grey wheel to the right of the throttle can be used for flaps I thought....
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Have my CH Fighterstick since 2004...pedals also. Needed some cleaning but works fine :aok
Interested in the throttle mostly. Are those metal switches to reach with your hand on one or both throttles?
That grey wheel to the right of the throttle can be used for flaps I thought....
And that's me being dumb... grey wheel is on a Thrustmaster Warthog... not Saitek...
Nevermind.... :bhead :bhead :bhead
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Update. I shipped the X-55 back, it arrived this past Wednesday. I finally called them, just now, to find out what they were going to do. They are shipping me a new stick today or Monday. It took a small amount of "righteous indignation", as they said that they were out of sticks, and were waiting on a new shipment, but they ponied up and did what was right. =S= to Saitek and the rep that I dealt with.
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Ive been thru 3 X52s, not X52 Pros, in my years of gaming. I usually get 3 or 4 years out of each one. One I think I got a little over 2, another like 4. Now the X52 is so cheap theres no doubt I'll buy another when this one blows up. Ive had less luck with Saitek rudders.
Dont get me wrong. I'd love to have one of them fancy Warthog Hotus jobs but they are dang pricey, tho Im sure they are worth it. I just dont game enough to be able to justify $500 for a joystick and throttle.
I still have an expensive Logicktek racing setup Ive only used once. I should probably sell it.
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Just curious get your stick back yet? How's it working?
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Sainte sticks are the worst you can get
I've had the same X52 pro setup for over 5 years and it still works fine.
My only wish is for a split throttle, to play with in the 38's :airplane:
I don't really like this one all that much. I like the dual stage trigger on mine.
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Sorry folks...yeah! I got it back. Working well. They gave me absolutely NO grief. Emailed me a shipping slip, so it was free and they had the new stick back to me 3 day shipping. I recommend Saitek for their service and support and for their good sticks. Everyone has a boo boo now and then, it's inevitable. Cudos to Saitek!!! I like the stick a lot, but it's taking some getting used to, as the rudder rotation is much firmer than with the X52s. The ONLY negative I have found, which is a personal preference, is that the trigger is single stage, not two stage like the X52s. I can live with it.
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I have had my X-55 for a month now. No major problems" there was a slight drift while in the gun position which was fixed by going to a powered usb hub."
The stick is very smooth and what I like best about it is it gives you a very precise feel. I still have some toggle switches that are unmapped and im still working on the best setup.
My K/D in fighters has all but doubled this month don't know yet if it's just a hot streak or the stick making that much of the difference.
My only dislike is the single stage trigger which isn't that big of a deal.
I would definitely recommend the stick.
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Do you gents know if there are drivers for win8 for the stick?
Thanks for getting back to us looks like I'll be ordering one this week along with my new computer. Gonna be an expensive month :lol
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Do you gents know if there are drivers for win8 for the stick?
Thanks for getting back to us looks like I'll be ordering one this week along with my new computer. Gonna be an expensive month :lol
I believe its the same driver used or win 7 based on the choices for OS. The download site took me a while to find since the thing they have up kept locking up on me. They can be found at http://support.madcatz.com/Knowledgebase/List/Index/176/x-55-rhino (http://support.madcatz.com/Knowledgebase/List/Index/176/x-55-rhino) under drivers/software button on the left, if the main site doesn't work for you.
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I've had 3 X-52's in the last six years since my MSFF Pro finally klunked out...First stick lasted 3 years till it started spiking out.Second lasted 3 months before spiking..The third was fine except the stick was very stiff and squeakey(friction from the shaft rubbing the plastic sleeve) and took a few months to break in(also put a small amount of chain lube on shaft)...Now a year later it's flawless,perfectly spike-free and feels like butter!..This is after lots of use almost every day,heaving and twisting on the various axis's...I very strongly recommend the X52(not X52 pro,had throttle issue with that and returned for X52),but buy it from a reputable store that has a generous return policy in case u get a dud...This new stick looks enticing,but the lack of a 2 stage trigger is unforgivable..I'd' rather have that than the split throttle(but then again if u fly P38's you might disagree)
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just ordered the x-55. it will arrive sometime next month :cry :cry. had an injury at work so I cant use my pedals and my x-52 pedal took a crap (or my motherboard).
I have the pos ch fighterstick marked for death with a 25 ton slab as soon as my foot heals and I can get back on my crane. it might take another 2 or 3 months as the doctors isnt sure yet but looking forward to both :).
semp
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I just got my x-55 today and it is big and I mean BIG, my ex-wife is small compared to this new joystick. and it looks awesome. it takes a lot of space on my desk.
if you get it, think about getting some velcro to stop it from moving. get a lot of velcro. and it has a lot of buttons. have yet to set it up and test it as I had to reinstall windows on another hard drive.
windows is gonna take about another 2 hours to d/l all the updates, so I hope tomorrow to leave early from work as I need to set up aces high and all the extra's I have to be ready for fso. :x :x :x :x :x
semp
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Experiment with the different springs to see which one you like, and you may have to work with the deadband in AH, the stick is really sensitive, which I love. It's a great stick, as far as I'm concerned.
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I only set up a few buttons today as I had to reinstall windows as in my other hd has a conflict somewhere that wont recognize the throttle. that is probably why my old throttle doesnt work anymore.
I gotta say I am impressed with how the stick handles. it is more accurate than the ch fiterstick and it responds better to movements. I showed it to the guys at work and they all thought I had spent at least 500 bucks on it. the construction is very sturdy. but you need velcro to secure the stick to your desk. it has screw holes if you are worried about damage.
the extra springs are a nice addition. I used the smaller spring as I figured I would be using it in my il2 to bust tanks for sure. anyway back to figuring out how to set up all the toggle switches it has :).
semp