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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SKurj on January 29, 2001, 06:20:00 PM
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whoopeeED 2 WEEK FREEBIES WHO CAN'T READ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newby1: Who needs a gunner?
Newby2: Oh we can gun for other people?
Newby1: WHO NEEDS A GUNNER?
Newby3: I do!!
Newby1: How do I do it?
Newby3: I dunno..
Newby1: How do I gun for someone?
Newby1: HOW DO I GUN FOR SOMEONE?????????
Newby2: Who needs a gunner?
Newby4: How do I takeoff?
Newby5: How do I drop bombs?
Newby6: I need a gunner?
newby6: I NEED A GUNNER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Newby7: How do I start boat?
Newby8: Wow you can drive a boat?!!
Newby8: How do I drive a boat?
etc
etc
etc
Thats a typical 2 hour period in the MA, probably conservative as well...
Anyone else getting tired of this?
I think its time HTC instituted(suggestions):
1. For your first 2 week period in AH, each time u start the program, you are immediately taken to the HTC help pages.
2. Took more responsibility for helping new players.
3. Added a ready room environment similar to AW, which were very good for players to help each other without doing it on MA comms.
4. added a .squelch allthosewhohaven'treadhelppages command
5. Create an HA arena for subscribers only (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
6. PERMANENT SQUELCH FILE!! I spend minutes squelchin ppl out of every login..
Seriously, I like to help people, but the constant bombardment and often times repitition of a question I just answered 30 seconds ago, is really getting annoying. I am almost to the point of squelching anyone the typical newby questions.
Its taking a lot of the enjoyment outta the game for me.
SKurj
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Those new guys are HTC's business growing. Also they make great targets for gunnery practice. However I agree that it can get annoying. I just tell them to click on the "help" button and read.
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Heh people called me "rude" and "not helping" when I told them to "RTFM"
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"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch
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You will notice how few answers where in your post.
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"WHERE IS THE RTFM KEY AND WHAT DOES IT DO BECAUSE I CAN'T MOVE MY PLANE THIS GAME SUCKS!!???????!!"
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[This message has been edited by Nash (edited 01-29-2001).]
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Yah, the new guys get a little wearing.
We're damned if we do and damned if we don't though.
If the whole community quits answering them, we'll get the "snobs" reputation.
If we answer one, 20 others chime in.
I try to answer one question from any one guy. The second question gets a polite suggestion to review the manual and "all (most) will be revealed."
The next question from the same guy gets a .squelch (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Best I can do at present.
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Oh, btw... Didn't someone here volunteer to put a PDF user manual together? I still think that's a fantastic idea... and something written with a new flyer's perspective in mind.
Who was that? Need any help? The current help pages are good, but a bit daunting... and abstract in terms of how all that info actually plays into things when ya find yerself in the MA for the first time.
Something written with alla the same info, but with the tone of "Ok, what you're going to want to do at this point is is bring up the map (esc key) and look for..."
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It might be a good idea if when you dl the game , you cant enter MA till you log some time in the training arena or offline . One newbie last week said "real men don't read the manual" I guess real men just whine like little girls cause they can't get their tank to move .
favorite quote ;
" I speak no english , my plane fly no ?"
" I love Americans , how me fly ?"
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Nash,
While an Acrobat help file would be great, there is a fundamental problem - too damn few will ever bother to read the manual.
It's one of the reasons there aren't manuals with software any more. It didn't take too many surveys to see that people just don't bother. This is probably (though this is just a guess) why HTC hasn't created this resource themselves.
It isn't just the newbies. I've stopped answering established players who want to know what is in the new update. "How fast and how high can you drop torps?" "What's new in this update?"
Many established players are just as guilty and pride themselves on their ignorance when the readme.txt file that has the changes in every update gets installed in the AH directory with the update. You tell them the answers are in the file and they tell you they don't have time to read it or they never read the manuals, etc. I guess it doesn't matter that their efforts are wasted if they drop torps too high or fast. They are just as happy either way.
Good help materials are good to have and would certainly help the people who would like to really know. Too many, however, both newbie and "experienced" just couldn't give a rat's ass.
And yes, it is very annoying. It would help if the installation would be a little more enthusiastic about information contained in the readme or help available to new pilots.
And as much as some probably consider me a candidate for their permanent squelch files, I think that is an excellent and long overdue feature that needs to be implemented.
So what if someone gets squelched and you never listen to them or re-enable their tranmissions? I think it would go a long way to making the sim more enjoyable.
But I for one am through helping the newbies or the players that refuse to educate themselves. Snob or not. The information is available and they could read it just the same as I and many others did.
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Rape, pillage, then burn...
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The first corps of trainers were working on it. I did the comms page, and Indian did quite a few. Since then Ronni has pretty much done the help via the website.
http://www.hpcisp.com/~kieren/radio.htm (http://www.hpcisp.com/~kieren/radio.htm)
http://www.hpcisp.com/~kieren/kneepad.htm (http://www.hpcisp.com/~kieren/kneepad.htm)
They are out of date, but you get the idea...
[This message has been edited by Kieren (edited 01-29-2001).]
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Suggestion.. there's a free 2 week trial period. 1st week; system will ONLY let you into TA. Second week; Newbies graduate to MA for 'finishing school'.
Exception.. paid account from the get-go.
How's that?
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Hang
1st/AG "Bishlanders" << Recruiting!!
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
Suggestion.. there's a free 2 week trial period. 1st week; system will ONLY let you into TA. Second week; Newbies graduate to MA for 'finishing school'.
Exception.. paid account from the get-go.
How's that?
hang, thats a great idea, p.s. what the hell does RTFM mean
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[This message has been edited by jato757 (edited 01-29-2001).]
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hey lazs where are you?
the amish have invaded this thread!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
give the guys a break this game has a tough curve
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Originally posted by PakRat:
It isn't just the newbies. I've stopped answering established players who want to know what is in the new update. "How fast and how high can you drop torps?"
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Umm...
Nowhere in the initial 1.05 Readme is any mention made of air-dropped torps whatsoever, much less use parameters for them :-)
And no mention is made of them in the help files (I believe, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
There is an AWFUL lot of important game info one is only going to find out by doing searches on the bulletin boards or asking Hitech when he's on-line and "blue".
Or asking on the open channel in MA.
Regarding stupid newbie questions, yes the newbies are irritating, but overall people need to be a hair nicer to them, I think. But if they persist in annoying stupidity I certainly agree with ignoring them.
Had a guy ask about getting the PT started, etc. Told him how.
Then asked if I wanted to "gun" for him, and I patiently explained there's no real reason for two people in a PT, it's rarely done, and you're unlikely to find anyone to "gun" for you on a PT because you can steer a PT with rudder pedals and shoot at the same time. People would rather just take their own PT.
Guy asked me to "gun" for him 2 more times after that. Finally just ignored him.
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Perk the manual (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Bare*Metal*Finish
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As a trainer, I can say it's difficult to assist guys when they don't know the very basics. Like radio and starting the engine/raising landing gear. Difficult, not impossible. It just takes about 30 minutes of time to explain them how it all works and stuff, then the rest of the time is spent explaining flight and how to take off.
What I was thinking, tonite actually, was creating an email rather than the PDF I'm working on(I have it all text based anyway, so just copy and past) so that when a new user creates himself an account an email is sent to him with his username and password but it also has a list of the commands and what the GUI interface does.
I already have the clipboard down in email form already, all I would need to do is add in a few more details and put in what each key press does.
Perhaps this would be more helpful? When they get their password via email, they also get a sort of email based "manual" of sorts.
Just a brainfart I had.
-SW
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I could do with one less ground vehicle in a flight sim with that programming time spent sharing the charts for corner speeds for all the planes, in a professionally published manual. With all the number crunching for 1.04, certainly they know. I just go into a fight and pull regardless of speed cause i have ZERO data on the planes. Did the guys in real life know all the performance characterists of their aircraft? Im going to bet they did so they could make them perform.
Somehow letting guys play for free to make your manuals seems kinda unprofessional.
Newbies are pretty overwelmed in the MA's unfamiliar environment you gotta admit.
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PLEASE I WANT TO FLY A BOMBER... WHICH PLANE IS A BOMBER?
<on channel 1> OK I HAVE GOON AT A24 HOW DO I MAKE TROOPS JUMP??
<enroute to nowhere anybody is> NEED GUNNER AND ESCORT! NOW!!
<otw to A1> THERES AN AIRPLANE IN FRONT OF ME!... HE'S BEHIND ME NOW... WHO'S MY GUNNER?? SHOOT IT SHOOT IT SHOO.. *boom*
WHATS RW?
WE MUST ATTACK A1 !!!!!!!!!!!!! WE GONNA LOSE A2!!!!!!!
WHATS A CV?
Phuleeeze... 1st week in TA. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Àll newbies are very welcome (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
nice easy kills
"HQ almost down this TBM rocks"
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Takin candy from babies tends to unecessarily traumatise the baby. There's price fer 'easy kills'.. dissatisfied customers that don't sign up after two weeks of being clubbed like a bay seal.
Give the toddlers a chance... educate 'em. What kid WANTS to go to school?? It's mandatory out there in the real world.. yah don't hand a toddler a gun and tell 'em to 'protect the house, we'll be back later'.
"HOW DO I DROP BOMBS??"
Back ta class, chum. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Funny how many people in this thread were asking on open channel how to XXXX when 1.05 first came out....
You don't have to answer them. Do if you feel up to it, don't if you don't.
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My personal fav:
BKphoto: Where is boob switch?
Mayhem [private]: I wish I had me a boob switch!
BKphoto: answer me!
Delta6 [private]: ROFLMAO!!!!
And another fav, fairly recent:
nexel: ME KOREA , YOU FIGHT!?
Delta6: Me Yankee Air Pirate, you DIE!
Victory 1 by Delta6 of Hommicidal Hummingbirds
You shot down nexel
nexel: FCUK YOU!
Ghosth: (*^#@$*(^@(^(*#@^*&$(*@^*$&^@ nexel (*@^$(*@^$&#%*^@)(@#&@(&%*$@#%* Got it!?
nexel: OK,OK
Delta6 [private]: Idiot
Ghosth [private]: They just keep getting smarter huh?
Delta6 [private]: ROFl!
Just for those of you that aren't acronymically inclined, RTFM means...
READ THE F{*&!@ MANUAL!
Short but sweet, gawd I love this! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
Put the P-61B in Aces High
"During the Battle of Britain the question 'fighter or fighter-bomber?'
had been decided once and for all: The fighter can only be used as a bomb carrier
with lasting effect when sufficient air superiority has been won." Adolph Galland
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Maybe... Ignoring is all we can do.
As a Korean, I'm feeling almost painful about any Korean newbie comes in and say
"I'm Korean, I don't English, HELP"
"KOREAN HELP HELP HELP!"
(when shot down) "F**K".
You know, there are not many of Koreans flying in AH. at such situation I feel responsible to help them/save them/ or at least, silence (<g> ) them.
Trying to save them by private radio was way too hard for me.(as someone said, It needs at least 30 min, and we are unable to type Korean in AH radio, It takes more time) But just ignoring them were also painful.
Finally I've wrote a manual for AH, named "newbies guide for AH" in Korean Language. After I've done the first version of newbie-manual, I've mailed them, any Korean newbies that I happened to met in AH.
But no avail. I've found out that If they going to fly, they will read manual no matter it is english or Korean,readable or not, they do try their best to learn. but if they won't learn, translated/localized manual won't help at all. That's What I've learn. (So My manual was almost useless (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) well, anyway I think I need to do something about korean newbies. this is what I do.
step 1> get his e-mail address
step 2> tell him my e-mail address, tell him feel free to ask anything.
step 3> mail him my manual
step 4> don't feel sad if there comes no response at all. (I've got thanks mail, about 1:3 ratio. ) ignore them! :>
I'm very willing to help them. but sometimes ... it feels very empty.
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By the way, If we can use 'Double Byte Codes' on channel, (maybe only on private channel) It would be much easier to help newbies. I remember Warbirds 2.x (I donno how WB works now tho.) permited to use Local Language in radio channel.
(Japanese or Korean Languages cannot be typed in current radio channel. they are not ascii/or 8bit 1byte code. )
tailight
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Hehehe, I had one trying to "join" me about FIVE times while I was furballing between a vulched field and an NME CV ... it was....interesting, to fly with the stick in one hand, the mouse in the other, ready to click on "NO"...
Newbies asking for help is, errr Normal, you will get them whatever you do.I think there are enough of us able to help, even one after the other. I sometimes do, or I don't...it will just depend of my Mood. Usualy, someone will answer him(heh, even a lot of times, I see a newbie answering another one!).
Then again, maybe i've just read the word "RTFM" too many times (professionaly).
Newbies are not the ones I squelch, I have another list for that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<S!> to TailLights for what you are doing.(maybe you could put it up on a webpage, and submit it to HTC so that they could link it?) If you don't know how to, drop me an Email (see profile)
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[This message has been edited by Saintaw (edited 01-30-2001).]
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90% of the time when I see these newbie questions I'll just go on private channel with the guy and try to help him out.
Often that involves us leaving the MA for the relative sanity of the TA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
If you're getting jaded with AH, just spend half an hour helping a new guy. You'll reap rewards far beyond his thanks when he manages to take off for the first time.
Newbies are why we are all here. Let's not forget the contribution they make to Aces High.
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Aces High Training Corps
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Hehehehe, Yesterday nite, Mandoble has been hosting a newbie in his roomy 109 cabin. The guy jumped into the cabin, thinking it was a buff, and asking where were the gun positions (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif). Finally he hit the silk....Mandoble guessed too many G's (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Cheers,
Pepe.
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Saw, I remember those guys! They send you 50 some-odd join requests then get pissy when you say No. Since I run a training page I've had more than my fair share of those people. They see the handle (Delta6) and think "Cool he's here!" then promptly bang out a join request. I've flown 20 minutes or more with one hand on the stick, and the other on the mouse. I'd see the request pop up, I'd hit NO.....another one comes up, NO. Very annoying.
I've had 'em come up in the middle of a fight before too. I had a nice tracking shot on a Lanc and waited for the range to close a bit. WHAM "SnotNose wants to join you". Little fragger blew my shot, but I got the Lanc on my next pass.
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Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
Put the P-61B in Aces High
"With all due respect Chaplian, I don't think God wants to hear from me right now.
I'm gonna go out there and remove one of His creations from this universe.
And when I get back I'm gonna drink a bottle of Scotch like it was Chiggy von Richthofen's blood and celebrate his death."
Col. McQueen, Space: Above and Beyond
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Im trying to hlp them too
funked and guys from 308 took care of me when i whas starting AH, so im trying to do thesame fro them (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
some tyimes when u got a WB guy it can bo very interesting lessons (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Well, when a newbie ask to join AND your are in a fighter, best nice thing to do is to answer yes, especially if you have just TO for a loooong range sortie. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
He cant harm you, but for sure will be bored to death. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Next time he will not ask again. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Torgo:
Nowhere in the initial 1.05 Readme is any mention made of air-dropped torps whatsoever, much less use parameters for them :-)
And no mention is made of them in the help files (I believe, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
Ask and ye shall receive:
Version 1.05 Patch 5... Added a torpedo loadout option on the Ju 88. These torpedos are faster but have a shorter range (2200 yards) than the Mk 13 torpedo. The maximum drop parameters on these torpedos are 210 MPH at 390 feet.
There is lots of information about each release in the accompanying readme - if people would just read them. I'm sure it's also frustrating for the people that write them to realize that so few read them - and the height of stupidity - that so many pride themselves on not reading them.
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Rape, pillage, then burn...
[This message has been edited by PakRat (edited 01-30-2001).]
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I hate it when someone wants to join you or wants you to join in a squad while you are in flight.
These messages should not show up unless you are on the ground or in a buff.
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mrfish.... They didn't invade this thread they started it.
I would not mind answering any of those questions for anyone but...... I don't know the answer to a single one of them.
lazs
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You know, when someone is asking for help, and you obviously have the time to read everyone of their messages, you should help them. Otherwise, you're just being a part of your own whine. This game is based on community and cooperation. Help the newbies for God's sake!!! I do it whenever I can.
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May the Force be with you.
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Whats unfortunate, is that some new players are reading this thread.
Like any of us knew the ropes our first few flights in a new sim? I prefer the training scheduled times in the TA to trying to do it in the arena...worked in AWDOS.
Also, how many trainers are in AH anyway...I only have seen a couple speak up and try to help the new players...I've had new players asking for help and I have suggested they get in touch with a trainer, but could not find one online...ended up helping them myself.
Just Curious!
Ice
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Yoda I help when I can but I'm here to have fun and I don't get paid by HTC so I help when I want and who I want. I don't get on as much as I like so when I'm in I don't want to spend my time training someone new.
I don't mind answering 1 or 2 questions but when they start asking you 20 to 30 it gets old and that's when most people say read the manual or go to the TA.
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well you could ask them if they plan on staying on and invite them into your squad and train them from the get go ,
it seems if ya show them a lil kindness then say hey take a look at the manual next time before ya fly even print the key list that its taken more kindly by the newbie
my 2 sheckels
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Skrbrofr
27TH SENTAI
ARMED RECCE UNIT
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yes.....newbies can be a pain some times.
yes ...i still help them when i can, i was a newbie once.
44MAG
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It would be kind of nice if HTC could "convince" a few people to help out newbies in the MA.
Is the TA staffed at certain times or is is just staffed when a trainer shows up? It would also be nice if the MA could point people to the TA for help.
I'd hate to see AH stagnate if too many newbies decided not to subscribe based on how they are treated (sometimes) in the MA.
Fury
[This message has been edited by Fury (edited 01-30-2001).]
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Originally posted by paintmaw:
It might be a good idea if when you dl the game , you cant enter MA till you log some time in the training arena or offline . One newbie last week said "real men don't read the manual" I guess real men just whine like little girls cause they can't get their tank to move .
favorite quote ;
" I speak no english , my plane fly no ?"
" I love Americans , how me fly ?"
LMAO!!! Yeah I like trying to convince the new guys that come on at 5 am that im a pigme from the moon and they have to pay me to play or ill throw stuff at them.
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There is no set training schedule in the TA. It's staffed when it's convenient for the trainers to be there. We also set up appointments with folks and train that way.
Guys, feel free to write down my email address "sconrad@hfx.eastlink.ca" and give it out. You can give this email to ANY newbie asking questions in the MA if you are too busy killin' stuff. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I'll field emails and hook newbies up with trainers from there.
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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
A member of The Flying Pigs http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)
"A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
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Hey Flakbait,
That probably explains why I got a join request from an apparent newbie about a month ago.
I went ahead and accepted him, and just continued trying to down the reds and rtb. Neither he or I did any comm on either the green, gray or white channel. After a while I either landed or got shot down.
He disappeared then.
The interesting thing was that at the time, I thought "Why is this guy wanting to join me.
Fortunately, I've had no other join requests since then.
Oh well.
delta
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My personal favourite is always...
"WHAT DO U MEAN I NEED A JOYSTICK? THIS GAME SUX!!!"
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YES !! we need some numbers (corner velocity)
most BOX sim come with some charts , people in here say "umm ,, around 200"
I don't mind answering some questions
, but some are soo dumb . Even I knew what the E key was for
If HT is open for the world , they do need translated help files , HT hasn't been to helpful lately , I still cant save my gun volume and have asked several times .
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How about a training schedule? 1 night a week in the TA that we can inform the new players that there WILL be a trainer present.
When I 1st downloaded AH, i messed with the program offline for 2 evenings before i stepped into the MA. I knew how to choose a plane, how to choose a tank, how to start and drivem both, I had mapped my stick, all this before I even flew online the first time.. I didn't want to waste my 2 weeks not knowing how to play. Sure I missed a few things, and had to ask.
Most of my online flyin experience has been with AW3, and you hardly ever saw all these "How do i ###?" questions.
somethin gotta be done..
SKurj
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This is an interesting post...
I remember when all of you were doing just that when beta opened. Having flown some alpha I was in a position to answer some questions. I remember spending hours answering those questions and not getting to fly...
Hey guys, if you can help with a simple answer, do the right thing, answer the question. If it gets to be too much, then refer the individual to a trainer. I am one and my email is lmluper@att.net. Feel free to use it to help someone learn the game. Don't use it to spam my e-mail with nonsense.
(http://home.att.net/~lmluper/P47.jpg) (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)
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Originally posted by PakRat:
Ask and ye shall receive:
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Version 1.05 Patch 5...
There were NO torpedo drop parameters in the INITIAL 1.5 readme (NOT the patch readmes).
Drop parameters for the TBM torpedoes have NEVER been mentioned in a readme.
Hence, I fail to see how people can be bothered by veterans asking gameplay questions on the open channel in the MA when HTC doesn't provide the information in a README.
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Help them as you were helped when you were a young dumb whelp...... I remember long long ago when I asked some very VERY stupid questions. 1.06 WB's I think. Think back to those dazze when you were in thier shoes, for some of you it wasn't that long ago. I answer any question that I happen to notice and if I cant answer it I refer them to the TA or to find a trianer. Most of them dont even know there are trainers or a TA. I would hate to see our trianers get anymore orged than they are as they might start bracketing thier =handles= and acting like they are better than the poor slobs they are suppose to be helping...like in brandX......... I have noticed that if you YELL for a trainer they will answer if one is online. So hopefully we will never need that pesky button that pages trainers.
The only thing I miss about the old BrandX training program was how they would sign up groups of newbies and take them through a thourough and long trianing course were many of them would come out as some pretty badass pilots. Right out of flight school...........
LLB OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
[This message has been edited by llbm_MOL (edited 01-31-2001).]
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SKurj, a real case two days ago.
I was flying 109, and one minute after taking off from a1 BLOP "PlayerX wants to join your plane (acept - decline). And now, in cronological order:
- I continued cruising, some minutes of silence...
- player X: Hey! This plane has no guns!
- Me: You're wrong, we have 3 20mm guns...
- One minut of silence ...
- Player X: But... ...I cant manage any gun!
- Me: You're right, this is a 109, a fighter.
- Player X: Then why you acepted me?
- Me: Why you asked me?
- Some minuts of silence...
- Player X: I cant unjoin this plane!! Take me to the airfield!
- Me: Negative, We are about to engange several bandits... ...silence.
- COMBAT, silence and RTB to rearm.
- Player X: GET ME OUT OF HERE!
- Aligning with the runaway to land.
- Me: I'm about to rearm this plane.
- Player X: Rearm? How?
- Me: Just wait and look... ...Silence.
- Rearming and taking off again.
- Player X: Hey, where are we going?
- Me: Intercepting A4 bandits again.
- Me: It seems I have an hostage ROFLOL...
- Player X: Still cant unjoin! Take me to the base!
- Me: About to engange, you can bail or enjoy the flight... ...silence and combat.
- Again RTB and about to land.
- Me: You still there?
- PlayerX: Yep.
- Aligning the runaway with some heavy banking.
- PlayerX: Your flying sucks!
- Landed, rearmed and taking off.
- PlayerX: Good to see you are not going to anywhere, your fuel is at minimun.
- Me: You are looking at the wrong gauge (altitude), I'm reading 75% of external tank.
- Player X: Need to get out this plane as soon as possible!
- Silence, cruise, combat and RTB again.
- Me: The ticket for this travel is 20 bucks mate...
- Player X bails out.
Give me newbies, give me newbies XD
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ROFLOL!!!
how come when I squeaked about goofy newbies a week ago I was branded as a Insane bigot who eats childern and urinates on old people? it appears to be quite stylish now.
BTW my favorite newbie question is:
NewbieX: how do I type messages?
[This message has been edited by TheWobble (edited 01-31-2001).]
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[This message has been edited by Fishu (edited 01-31-2001).]
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Even though I don't like your average Tin Horn, I still help when I can. Since the 'Net and this game are rather anonymous you can play macho all you want. I'd like to see a little feature added; any new guy has his e-mail address, real name, age, and marital status thrown up on the roster for all to see. That way you'll see stuff like this:
NewU411: i kil u!
Lephturn: That's nice Michael Waller, 37 year-old father of Two girls
NewU411: what? how u know that?
Lephturn: Seems your wife is getting mad about you not mowing the lawn
NewU411: aaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
hehehehhe
But yeah, I try to help when I can. Generally if they're nice but blunt I'll try my best. Any time I get the "Train me u bastard!" type I use a little known command ".eject dickhead". It works great! Long Q&A sessions I don't mind, especially if the Tin Horn shows some basic manners. I had a guy last week that asked where he calibrated his joystick. I told him, then he got angry, at ME, for not telling him how to EXIT the calibration. I could tell he was a Two Week Wonder; this guy barely got the C-hog off the ground. While I was rampaging around in a Yak shooting up the useless masses he fired at me. All I saw were tracers fly by, so I pulled a quick loop and blasted him.
Yep, he got real pissy. Started moaning on and on about how come I didn't abide by my own rule (call before engaging). "Simple, u shot at me. makes u fair game!" he got his panties in a pinch and left.
By contrast I've had guys that are simply a joy to teach. They need a little practice on something, or just want a short critique of their fighting skill. I'm more than happy to tell them, give them pointers, suggest different things, even go a few rounds just to see what he's talking about. These guys are a blast to fly with, and teach. If only all Tin Horns were that much fun. Ahh, wishful thinking....
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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
Put the P-61B in Aces High
"With all due respect Chaplian, I don't think God wants to hear from me right now.
I'm gonna go out there and remove one of His creations from this universe.
And when I get back I'm gonna drink a bottle of Scotch like it was Chiggy von Richthofen's blood and celebrate his death."
Col. McQueen, Space: Above and Beyond
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I help out whenever I can. I've been lucky and have had some good people to teach. There are alot of good ones out there.
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Sory me no speak english very well thanks.
Wat this BB need keyboard? THIS BB SUCKS!!!!
I remember being a newbie well since its only 6 months away... The only difference is that I started at WB and the online trainers did a great job helping me over the worst trouble. Then, second thing that confused me was the ACA (which at that time had squads, field takeovers, scores etc features enabled.)
Being a newbie I liked the inflight DAR a lot better because I could find the fight on the map easier.. The FM however seemed.. um.. weird. It took me 2 days untill I managed to believe it was forced easymode lol... I had played offline ace only before that. I racked a 4 kill streak on my first mission back then.
When I came to Aces High I already knew quite a lot about online sims. Still coming here was a strange experience.. 1.03 FM and no guidance on MA leaded me being zoomed over and over (don't think I scored more than 1 kill on that whole 3-4 days I could play out of my free 2 weeks, due to a crappy joystick which spiked enough to give the 'dont move your stick so friggin fast' messages.) After buying a new joystick I returned to AH but had lost my trial chance of course.. I was hoping that AH would count somehow the days actually played hehehhe.. fat chance =)
With the introduction of 1.04 the transition from WB FM seemed much easier and I'm a devoted AH fan since then.. However I haven't activated an account yet. My cc is maxed out (newbord child and all) so I have to stick to h2h. Not that I have a lot of time to play atm either =)
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rofl Mandoble!
You could have really gave the guy a fit by telling him that you hoped you didn't take a round in the radio and lose contact with him... then squleched em (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-Westy
(I help answer questions as best I can these days. Unless the party asking questions becomes belligerent. Then I just squelch em with no further coments)
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Well, to be honest, I am a 3 days old newbie and I did (really really did) read the manual but alot of the functions in the game are NOT described in manual. Let alone all the slang which is used in the game, is hard to decrypt sometimes.
Taking off in an airplane isn't that hard, but several functions in the GUI are sometimes not very self-explainatory and a helpfile with only keyboard mappings isn't very helpfull then.
It took me a day of internet reading all links and pages somehow connected to AH to figure out what to do, what not, how, when and where...
Might be an idea to make a newbie guide, explain the basics with links to places if the newbie wants to dig deeper into certain issues.
Say what you want but $30/month AND incomplete manuals/tutorials AND a high learning curve will not make for a highly populated game...
Yet still it got me hooked somehow (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I wonder why...
Broes