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Title: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: icepac on February 16, 2014, 01:01:06 PM
 The seemingly insignificant red arrow creeps toward strats until it is replaced with a full sector wide dar bar.

This off map BS is now being gamed for advantage.

I was wondering if htc could have a number replace the arrow.

The number would be the amount of planes off map in that sector.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Karnak on February 16, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
Put a 50,000mph down draft at the edge of the map so that somebody trying to go out of bounds just has their wings torn off and is slammed into the ground.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Tinkles on February 16, 2014, 01:36:38 PM
Put a 50,000mph down draft at the edge of the map so that somebody trying to go out of bounds just has their wings torn off and is slammed into the ground.

I really like this idea.


BIG +1
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: waystin2 on February 16, 2014, 01:40:45 PM
+1.  No more flying in the nowhere. :aok
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Karnak on February 16, 2014, 02:09:42 PM
More moderately, as the game is currently limited to about 130mph winds, just put a 130mph down draft at the edge.  Other than the Me163, which for other reasons is never used for off map expeditions, no aircraft in AH can climb at even 60mph upward and would be forced down.  The down draft might tear off wings for some aircraft, but for others it would simply be a warning to get back in bounds before your Bf109K-4 or Ki-84 is forced into the ground.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: icepac on February 16, 2014, 02:29:32 PM
How about 120mph away from the map for all 4 borders?

A guy flies off map by accident and has to struggle to get back on and learns the lesson without losing an aircraft.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Drane on February 16, 2014, 02:34:45 PM
or........anyone flying off the map is abducted by aliens and teleported back to launch field.

 :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener:
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: LCADolby on February 16, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
or........anyone flying off the map is abducted by aliens and teleported back to launch field.

 :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener:

They get probed!
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: caldera on February 16, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
Put 60,000 foot high brick walls at the edges of every map.   Nobody gets out alive.   :devil
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: colmbo on February 16, 2014, 03:16:57 PM
Put 60,000 foot high brick walls at the edges of every map.   Nobody gets out alive.   :devil

Warbirds had those, rather unpleasant if you were engaged in a legit fight at the map edge and bumped the wall.

How about all cons off map show on radar regardless of altitude or HQ condition.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: caldera on February 16, 2014, 03:25:28 PM
Warbirds had those, rather unpleasant if you were engaged in a legit fight at the map edge and bumped the wall.

How about all cons off map show on radar regardless of altitude or HQ condition.

Most people don't go to the edge of maps for a fight.  ;) 



There could also be a pop-up on your monitor warning you from going off map.  Those that ignore the warning spontaneously explode at the border. 

If not that, a variation on your idea:  any con going off map has not only a dot displayed to all countries, but aircraft type and altitude as well.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Karnak on February 16, 2014, 03:33:05 PM
How about 120mph away from the map for all 4 borders?

A guy flies off map by accident and has to struggle to get back on and learns the lesson without losing an aircraft.
I don't think that is enough of a penalty, even for an He111.  I'd rather something fatal if not responded to.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: icepac on February 16, 2014, 05:38:47 PM
Add 120mph downdraft to it?

You should be able to add both lateral and vertical winds in arena settings.

Survivable if for a few seconds if you stray outside during a fight but fatal for any long term flying.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Karnak on February 16, 2014, 06:22:46 PM
Add 120mph downdraft to it?

You should be able to add both lateral and vertical winds in arena settings.

Survivable if for a few seconds if you stray outside during a fight but fatal for any long term flying.
Yes you can and that would work.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: ImADot on February 16, 2014, 08:18:45 PM
Add 120mph downdraft to it?

You should be able to add both lateral and vertical winds in arena settings.

Survivable if for a few seconds if you stray outside during a fight but fatal for any long term flying.
Yes you can and that would work.

It the current code, any wind is applied equally across the whole arena. You cannot tell it to have no downdraft over "the playable map" and have max downdraft over "what's off the map".

In actuality, as far as I know, the arena is always 512x512 miles and it's just the clipboard map that shows you the terrain that was built within it. If the terrain is only 256x256, it is centered inside the full 512 area (which is why you can fly "off the map".
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: SmokinLoon on February 16, 2014, 10:58:25 PM
I'd like to see the "Twilight Zone" fly boys get curtailed as well.  Stay on the map or back to the tower you go!   *puuf*
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Rich46yo on February 17, 2014, 04:33:23 AM
I didnt even know this was happening. Shame on those pulling it. Real cheesy.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Mongoose on February 17, 2014, 09:30:04 AM
Most people don't go to the edge of maps for a fight.  ;) 

No, but some get chased there.  And you can end up going off the map for legitimate reasons during a fight. 

So, how about a sixty second countdown, and then the fuel burn multiplier goes to 4X? 

Or...  Instead of a brick wall, as some have suggested, a wall of puffy ack.  It gets heavier and more accurate the longer you are off the map?
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Karnak on February 17, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
No, but some get chased there.  And you can end up going off the map for legitimate reasons during a fight. 

So, how about a sixty second countdown, and then the fuel burn multiplier goes to 4X? 

Or...  Instead of a brick wall, as some have suggested, a wall of puffy ack.  It gets heavier and more accurate the longer you are off the map?
4X is nothing to some bombers.  Make it 20X or 60 seconds and then <boom> back to the tower.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: CASHEW on February 17, 2014, 06:40:07 PM
-1
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 17, 2014, 08:50:38 PM
I used to love flying off map in RR small euro arena and end up in the other RR arenas.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: BaldEagl on February 17, 2014, 08:57:28 PM
How about as soon as you hit the end of the map all flight controls are disabled and you just keep flying further and further away until you get bored and bail... or end up in China.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Aspen on February 18, 2014, 09:50:05 AM
Found our captured CV once at the edge.  Came back with bombers and it had disappeared.   Edge of the map is a huge green wall.  A 262 pops out of the wall and attacks..hmmmm.  We fly through the wall and theres the CV in the twilight zone.  Drop is good....wait...wait...boom boom boom booom....no damage.  Bullets and bombs were all rubber on the other side of the wall.

Map edge should be the game boundary.  Solid 60K cliff, giant flying squid or whatever, but something that puts you in the tower or makes you turn around immediately.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Tinkles on February 18, 2014, 01:44:34 PM
Found our captured CV once at the edge.  Came back with bombers and it had disappeared.   Edge of the map is a huge green wall.  A 262 pops out of the wall and attacks..hmmmm.  We fly through the wall and theres the CV in the twilight zone.  Drop is good....wait...wait...boom boom boom booom....no damage.  Bullets and bombs were all rubber on the other side of the wall.

Map edge should be the game boundary.  Solid 60K cliff, giant flying squid or whatever, but something that puts you in the tower or makes you turn around immediately.

Giant sheep!

(Or a huge 3d picture of HiTech)
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: phatzo on February 18, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
anything that flies off the map should turn into a Storch
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: bustr on February 18, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
One of our huge maps on the right hand side has a finger of water that runs south past a V base. Then it has a hidden canal that circles the map. When you fly off the map over that canal, your weapons fire, bombs drop, but do nothing. CV's get hidden there for the duration of the map and tolerated with the general knowledge of the fact. Some argument can be made for the heat of the moment and you were forced there in a fight during air operations. Kind of lame since you know for a very long time where that boarder is.

If you cross that line, your bullets, bombs and rockets should no longer work when you cross back into the active game arena. It's like teachers today saying kids will be kids while watching your kids cheat on a test using their cell phones. Suddenly cheating becomes a noble enterprise with no consequences other to those who refuse to be cheaters in that school. Either going off the map is not wrong and get rid of the arrows calling it super NOE stealth mode. Or some boundaries have to exist to not insult your paying customers who play by the few rules in the arena.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: McShark on February 19, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
Put a 50,000mph down draft at the edge of the map so that somebody trying to go out of bounds just has their wings torn off and is slammed into the ground.

+1  :aok :rofl
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: kvuo75 on February 21, 2014, 08:55:03 AM
you should appear on the opposite side of the map. like in asteroids.


 :rofl


Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: waystin2 on February 21, 2014, 09:13:16 AM
you should appear on the opposite side of the map. like in asteroids.


 :rofl




Now that would be fun and funny! :aok :rofl
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: icepac on February 21, 2014, 11:54:47 AM
I came back from AFK and found myself way off map and out of fuel when I noticed a train............so I shot it.
Title: Re: Please HTC....make it possible to see how many cons are off map
Post by: Aspen on February 21, 2014, 01:04:42 PM
you should appear on the opposite side of the map. like in asteroids.


 :rofl




That would be funny. Bombers climbing east to 30K and appearing in the west headed for strats.  With the old strat system, guys would be yelling "Quick!  Take that field back so our strats move to the front!"  :D