Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FLOOB on February 19, 2014, 10:24:28 PM
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In the 90's I was looking at video games in a store. And I found Air Warrior II, if I remember correctly it came in a card board box like most pc games at the time. I ask because back in those days there were no commercials on tv or online for video games and it got me wondering how people discovered online flight simming. I bet most people discovered it like I did, they saw it on a shelf in a store. Not counting noobs who got into it this century.
Man the 90s were awesome.
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
Same
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
Yep. :D
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Can't remember. I vaguely knew there were some out there and probably found AH by search engine. It was definitely not an ad of any kind which directed me here.
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Google, while trying to find a new online poker site.
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Friend from work, knew I played some off line stuff told me...............it was when wife and I we were DINKS (duel income, no kids) wife was flying as an attendant away for a few days at a time and I was home alone, had a top notch PC for the time, great way to stay out of the bars and trouble when she was gone and relatively low price compared to other hobbies/time disruptor's.
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i did a google search on WW2 flight simulator...
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Back when I was around 8-10 years old, I'm guessing, my father downloaded an online aerial combat game that one of the guys at work plays and showed him. I got hooked on it but it was a monthly fee game so I only got to play it 1 month at a time. I'm told that game was Aces High 1. :D (I was young and my memory is crap anyways so I really don't remember anything from back then.)
No other flight sim games for about 5-7 years. Then I saw the Aces High 2 commercial on the Military Channel late one night. It looked interesting so I downloaded it the next morning. Been here ever since. :D
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
Me too! I'll be hitting my AH ten year mark next month. :cheers:
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either history channel or military 8 years back
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Back in 97/98 I did a search for online flight games and found AW2, then it went to AW3/4 then died. After that I tried here in AH but couldn't adjust to it after only flying RR(relaxed realism) in AW. I went off and flew in Fighter Ace for a year or so then eventually came back here in 2001/2002.
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In the mid-late 90s I did a web search for online flight sims, as I was assuming it had to exist. It was either AW or early Warbirds I found, but at the time it was an hourly rate. I knew myself well enough to know I'd wind up in the poor house, so I forgot about it for a while. In 2007 it occurred to me to take another look, and I found Warbirds.
Wiley.
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I tried ordinary flight sims. But I wanted combat. I tried Microsoft Combat Flight simulator. But then I wanted combat with other humans. Tried their online combat, but it sucked in profound ways. Then I saw a commercial for Aces High on dogfights. Once you go AHII, it makes every other flight simulator look poorly put together, particularly their viewing systems.
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I saw the TV ad for Aces High and joined shortly thereafter (in late 2007?). Advertising pays.
That said, I left AH after only a month or so. I found out about Warbirds around the same time, tried it out and chose Warbirds over AH, cancelling my first AH subscription then.
Why did I choose Warbirds?
Two reasons: TRAINING and COMMUNITY. I felt (and still feel) that Warbirds had far more accessibility to Trainers and that allowed me to learn at a much faster pace. Realistic flight sims are HARD and without help I probably would have quit (getting your butt handed to you without understanding why for several weeks on end wears on you.) At the time, WBs had at least 3-4 trainers MINIMUM on during set hours (one or two nights during the week and one weekend time-frame) that were meant for new players to attend. New players always had priority over experienced players and experienced players in the Training Arena were expected to help the trainers out. In my opinion this focused on new player retention and it worked on me. I don't feel AH is as aggressive with that process.
In a more general sense, WB's seemed at the time more of a "we" community, with lots of people willing the help. Whereas from day one, AH seemed much more like a "ME" group. Warbirds was not as good of a game, but I chose it over AH for the reasons stated. As the game felt more and more outdated, had increasing problems, stagnant arenas with and lower and lower player populations (sound familiar?), I left. I then gave AH another go. After (finally) getting some training and being invited to a squad in AH, I stayed.
My point in all this, for all the people who complain about arena pop and player numbers, I ask: How often do you specifically seek out new AH players (based on their stats or actions) and offer to take them into the TA to help them? How often do you go into the TA to see if anyone new there is looking for help?
Sadly "shading" seems to have a long tradition and be a fun past-time in AH, which perhaps discourages this. (I never ONCE heard the term "shade" or accusations of shading made in WB). Personally though, I'd rather make the mistake of asking a shade if they need help over potentially losing players to the indifference (at best) and abuse (at worst) that many AH players dish out to new people.
My two cents.
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Ryno
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Did a demo of Air Warrior 2 head to head with a friend at a Computer Gaming Expo in the early '90s. Had subscribed to AW3 by the mid-90s and was spending *gulp* about $300 per month, back when they made you pay for the Internet by the hour.
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Always a computer nut and an airplane mechanic (among other things). Played lots of pc flight/combat sims.
Discovered AW on AOL around 1996. Always flew FR unless the arena was down. What a blast! :old:
EA bought AW and killed it.
Read about some people (some associated with AW) that made a new online sim called AcesHigh and jumped into that (beta).
Tried others but AW and AH have been the best. :banana:
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Stumbled upon AW on Genie.
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My husband (Zeb in AW) used to play AW on dial-up in the very early days and at the time I was more worried about the size of our phone bills! When it went to Gamestorm my concerns about phone bills stopped and I got really interested when he told me he thought he might be getting invited to a squad - I had no idea things like squads existed and wanted to see more. That evening I watched in fascination as he logged on into the OC and from there went to Cz HQ and eventually an airfield. I watched his faltering attempts to accept an invite from Spiff and joined the Krait Squadron. :cool:
I really wanted to get in on the action but never thought I would be able to fly, but he pointed out that I would be able to drive GVs as well as go as a gunner in the bombers so I created an account. After several squad nights feeling a bit left out I eventually did learn to fly (in FR!) and finally settled on bombers, usually B17s. The rest, as they say, is history! :D. :old:
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Saw an ad for Air Warrior in Computer Gaming World magazine in the early 90s.
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One sunny day back in '96, I stumbled across Gamestorm/Air Warrior Macintosh on AOL. Gosh...that was 20+ joysticks and thousands and thousands of dollars ago :bhead
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I found an old Logitec stick at the dump. When I found the driver online, it came with a link to fighter ace. I played fa for a few years.
About a year before fa shut down, I found ah while searching for other air combat sIms.
When fa announced the shut down, our squad immediately came over to ah.
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I used to build models until my kids got old enough to start messing around with em. They were out with the wife one day and saw this box with a pretty blue plane (so they said hehe). It was Air Warrior 3. I messed with the offline missions for a while and one day I was home sick I struck out online. Been with it ever since. Think it was 96 or 97.
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I heard about the game from an on-line help techie for some POS Packard Bell computer I had. I remember how being so fascinated you could play against others in near, or near, real time. My best days were with the 484'th and Blind Bats. A few other squads I was associated with, good guys all. :salute
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Saw a review/article on Confirmed Kill/Warbirds in Computer Gaming World magazine.
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I
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PEZ
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From usenet, alt.games.pc I think. Started seeing threads from guys flying around and having a blast in WB. Must have been around 96 or 97.
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
Seen it when I was 12 on the Military Channel, and been here ever since. Took a few years, but finally found my name :)
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I bought the boxed game version of Air Warrior sometime in the late 90's, after playing Falcon, Falcon 3.0, and Falcon 4 for a long time. I loaded it up, and looked at the little box screen you flew in, and declared it horrible, and put the box on the shelf, never realizing that there was a whole world of multiplayer filled with hundreds of online pilots out there.
In late 99, I was working on a review for Warbirds 2.7something, and mentioned it while playing Rainbow 6 with the crew from PCXL/PC Gamer magazine one night, and another player in that game told me about the beta for Aces High, and said it was far superior to Warbirds, which I had just been discussing in the after game chat window. I tried it out, and been here ever since, and never went back to Warbirds, which I'd only had about 25 hours or so stick time in to begin with. So I guess I was a word of mouth customer, and the player that told me about this place was Soulyss, an AH player that's one of a handful I recognize from 99/2000 that's still around today.
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Bought a modem in 1991, in the box was an add from Genie, Found aw 1.04 for dos in the text menus of Genie.
HiTech
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Was that a US Robotics 14.4 modem back then HT? I remember coveting one of those badly in that time period, but couldn't afford the astronomical cost at the time.
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Having always been a fighter and bomber type planes nut and old "nose picker" the nickname given to AD's (aviation machinist mate's rating in the Navy ).... I would read up on everything I could... and with the Navy Aviation training in the mid 80's I was able to learn how to use computers along with schematic / parts viewers... cannot for the life of me remember what we called those, but it beat the Hell out of using those big arse naval repair manual binders ... NamTra this & that...
I heard about this flight sim game Air Warrior through some of the maintenance control chiefs... Well I would have to wait a couple of years, I just couldn't afford the cost...
I settled on several(several many) offline and lan to lan flight sim type games... a lot were from micropose - like Toronado featuring modem to modem 2 way action... Then tryed AW for first time in '92/'93, the young wife said Hell no... Yo're not paying that much just to fly for 1 hour, which came close to $15.00 at that time, with the hourly cost, isp cost and long distance phone charges... I did sneak in a few months of some $500+ charges... damn near got divorced over it... Think it was Delphi/Genie and then earthlink and compuserve came along... I tryed again in '94... Still wife was non too happy... Then kesmai cut a deal with AOL and I was so happy, who cared you still had to pay $2 or $2.99 per hour ( yes, I know at one time before I left aol for gamestorm, that the cost of aw went from hrly to FREE to I think monthly ).... I've had monthly total charges range from $500+ upwards pushing $1,200.... Talk about being hooked like an addict, rofl....
It has been one long exciting rollercoaster up and down and up ride, that I would not change from all the wonderful friends, some as close as family these days and never forgetting about the squaddies we have lost or have gotten their last checkride to the heavens...
That's how I've gotten here from there... Oh and learning how to take 2 300 baud modems and tie/wire them together to get better than 600 baud internet speed.... LOL, going from 900 to 1200 baud , thought I was really kicking some arse...
TC
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Ahhhh May 2007. The month that will forever live in infamy in the Mrs. mind. I saw a commercial for AH on the Military/History channel and the rest is history. :aok
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Bought a modem in 1991, in the box was an add from Genie, Found aw 1.04 for dos in the text menus of Genie.
HiTech
Didn't bebop and shebop use to post a lot on the genie bbs
My modem was 300 baud in '91.... iirc
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I was really styling at the time , had a super fast 2400 baud modem.
HiTech
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;Lol... Round here we would've considered that crapping in high cotton :D. :old:
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I was really styling at the time , had a super fast 2400 baud modem.
HiTech
How did you get inspired to write AH.
Aces High was the first sim I ever flew on. I would have started back into 2005 offline which would have made me 12. Didnt start online until 2013 and the rest will go down in History :devil
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found aceshigh 1 on a site called gamer's hell while searching for free games and like a crack fiend I started paying for it very soon after.
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I relatively new compared to the old... errr experienced players on here. I was actually looking to get a fix of the old Secret Weapons Of The Luftwaffe (SWOTL), i DID find an old port of the game but realized that it was much better in it's hay day and didn't hold up anymore. Thus the search was on again, after a couple google queries, Aces High came up and that was it, I was hooked.
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I found AW4W when AoL put it online ... was it 94 or 95? I don't recall exactly. I just remember my bills being $300+ per month, and somehow justifying it because I wasn't spending that at a bar.
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I found AW4W when AoL put it online ... was it 94 or 95? I don't recall exactly. I just remember my bills being $300+ per month, and somehow justifying it because I wasn't spending that at a bar.
Heya Mir, AW4W came to aol in beta in '95.... and I think I've known you and of you every since ( the beta part IIRC was more aol beta, than AW beta I think )
Cheers
TC
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Sometime in the middle of 1995 AOL advertised that it would be running Air Warrior as one of AOL's games. I can still recall Gray Eagle's description of his P-51 fighting a Spitfire ("He was already dead, but he didn't know it yet.") I thought to myself, WTF is a 51 fighting a Spitfire for? But it was free, if you had an AOL subscription, it sounded far more interesting than playing against the computer AI, but it required Win95. I was running 3.10, if I recall (possibly 3.12?). If memory serves, in October of 1995 AW came out with a Win 3.10 version. I flew two missions in the training arena, and the rest of the time - until AW went TU on 12/7/2001 - in FR.
One of the problems with AOL in that era was that the company didn't have enough modems to service the sudden onslaught of customers. I remember sitting next to the computer, listening to the modem dial the local AOL number, only to get a busy signal. Hang up, dial again. Quite often this process went on for as much as half an hour before you'd get a connection that would hold. There was one map, and one map only. In the years of FR Fightertown we may have had a total of 20 players at any one time. Yet to this day those seem to me to be among the best virtual times I've ever had. It also explains why I have such low tolerance for whines about numbers, maps and graphics.
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I googled for "best ww2 combat flight simulator for pc free". After digging through loads of garbage, computer viruses and toolbars I found this gem. Took a short brake a while ago and wanted to come back as soon as I left.
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I bought my first computer, plugged everything in, then immediately did a search for "Flying Games", 1996 I believe. Clicked on the Air Warrior website and started the down load. Counter said I had 8 hours to go before download complete. Went to bed, up the next morning, run to the computer and go into the game. I was thrilled ! It was everything I had ever dreamed of in a game. I averaged about 4 hours of sleep the first month. Phone bills of $300 to $500 bucks a month. Didn't care, I was hooked. I switched to Warbirds when they shut AW down, and then came here when I was no longer happy playing there. I've been very happy here.
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Started flying Dawn of Aces on my dad's Warbirds account.
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I was playing Janes Combat WWII Fighters. Was researching WWII aircraft one day on the web and stumbled across the Blue Knights website. They had detailed after action reports posted from their squad nights, and a link to Aces High.
One click...and the rest is history.
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As a head of former Head of Warbirds European Training Corps, I agree with both the training part and the community
The latter probably could be explained by more mature customer base in general in Warbirds.
me (=save=) =dhy==(dhyran) =flu= (flubby) =lem== fdski= in Loose-Deuce where all part of Warbirds Euro Trainers corps.
We all had free shade accounts in Warbirds too, call-signs where known to other trainers only.
/Save
I saw the TV ad for Aces High and joined shortly thereafter (in late 2007?). Advertising pays.
That said, I left AH after only a month or so. I found out about Warbirds around the same time, tried it out and chose Warbirds over AH, cancelling my first AH subscription then.
Why did I choose Warbirds?
Two reasons: TRAINING and COMMUNITY. I felt (and still feel) that Warbirds had far more accessibility to Trainers and that allowed me to learn at a much faster pace. Realistic flight sims are HARD and without help I probably would have quit (getting your butt handed to you without understanding why for several weeks on end wears on you.) At the time, WBs had at least 3-4 trainers MINIMUM on during set hours (one or two nights during the week and one weekend time-frame) that were meant for new players to attend. New players always had priority over experienced players and experienced players in the Training Arena were expected to help the trainers out. In my opinion this focused on new player retention and it worked on me. I don't feel AH is as aggressive with that process.
In a more general sense, WB's seemed at the time more of a "we" community, with lots of people willing the help. Whereas from day one, AH seemed much more like a "ME" group. Warbirds was not as good of a game, but I chose it over AH for the reasons stated. As the game felt more and more outdated, had increasing problems, stagnant arenas with and lower and lower player populations (sound familiar?), I left. I then gave AH another go. After (finally) getting some training and being invited to a squad in AH, I stayed.
My point in all this, for all the people who complain about arena pop and player numbers, I ask: How often do you specifically seek out new AH players (based on their stats or actions) and offer to take them into the TA to help them? How often do you go into the TA to see if anyone new there is looking for help?
Sadly "shading" seems to have a long tradition and be a fun past-time in AH, which perhaps discourages this. (I never ONCE heard the term "shade" or accusations of shading made in WB). Personally though, I'd rather make the mistake of asking a shade if they need help over potentially losing players to the indifference (at best) and abuse (at worst) that many AH players dish out to new people.
My two cents.
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Ryno
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Wow, 2 days, and 2 interesting threads in a row, without any of the usual rowdiness. Full moon or something out?
I'd also like to hear how HT came up with the idea, I know from time to time HT and HTC has given us snippets of the history of the game, but it's something I'm sure a lot of us would love to read about. I know that much of the AH crew had prior experience with Warbirds, I think at least. I understand if there is legal reasons for not sharing stuff about the past however, I don't understand how that all works in the USA.
One thing that I find very interesting in this thread, is the number of guys who saw the adds on the military channel and became not only customers, but customers that stuck around. I've never seen the adds, as our stupid CRTC in Canada didn't allow that channel up here, so no channel, no advertisement. Is there anyone that has a copy of the HTC adds on youtube or someplace? I'm very interested in seeing the add(s), as they appear to have had at least some level of effectiveness.
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i bought a computer from a guy who built computers-just cheap low memory low storage small vid card..and he had some sim games that he gave me-from the company"JANES"-they were great--then saw ad on military channel and dogfights for aces high .but my puter and internet was so weak i could not play or evan download it..so i had to wait for 3 years to afford a new puter..and one way or another i'm here to stay. :joystick:
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How did you get inspired to write AH.
I wrote Warbirds before AH
I had a falling out after merging with a different company and then wrote AH,
I wrote Warbirds because I thought I could write a better sim then AW. And 2 friends decided to invest so we made a company.
HiTech
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I was into offline sims in the early 1990s but knew little about computers at the time. When I brought my computer to a shop, there was an older gentleman (who later was a RIO in the Navy) that was boasting about the amount of fun he had on AirWarrior. I went over his house, he let me fly on his account for a few minutes, and I have never looked back.
I did Airwarrior until the very end of that game and made the move to Aces High. I was a trainer and a P38 junky even before Aces High existed, been close to 20 years now.
Unfortunately, my wife doesn't approve of Aces High. She says that the head movement when using TrackIR makes me look stupid. Also, in her words, "When I look in on you it is always the same screen on the monitor. Can you look at porn or something?"
I can't win... maybe she would appreciate Aces High if I looked at porn.
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First found AW1.12 while searching for flight sims online in the early 90s. Played via the London host with the SinS against the Kraits.
I remember Flossy and her boys joining and eventually joined the Kraits, where is Spiff now?
I hate to think how much I spent paying hourly :lol. Then played via AOL I think.
Left in the late 90s. Found AH in about 2004 and been here since.
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I never really heard of air warrior until recently.. But I did discover this little game called warbirds that was so dam cool like late nineties when i had just graduated high school and had no direction in life but had ample amounts of time.. This cool little free game had all these programmer dudes hitech, pyro, etc. that as a player you could wing with and i believe shoot down as well :headscratch:.. The best part of the game was the real/simulation aspect of it.. I could not for the life of me lift over this mountain with this bomber i was flying for the longest time until i finally realized it was because it was loaded with 100% fuel.. doh!! And what was that nonstop weird buzzing sound?? But then it got better.. even tho it was a free game. once you developed some skills you had the oppurtunity to play others online!! This was amazing.. I remember as a teenager fooling around thinking it was cool i could talk to a friend of mine on the computer using a modem just a few years prior.. It was just a complete hoot.. So much of my happiest times was transitioning from kid to adult with this game.. Really even my family would be like.. dude whats with you and that warbird game? lol.. and they would make fun of me too, a-holes.. lol.. I guess as warbirds kind of started to fall behind a bit I heard of Aces High in game and figured I'd give it a try.. found it was superior in almost every aspect. I even tried to get my squad over but seemed they'd rather go down with the wb ship.. Anywho it was a great time and ride with Warbirds, i thought it was a hell of a game and community, nothing will ever take away that awesome time.. offline/online it was just kickarse those days.. Now Aces High is just the new chapter.. Ok sorry for my long winded rant
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As a head of former Head of Warbirds European Training Corps, I agree with both the training part and the community
The latter probably could be explained by more mature customer base in general in Warbirds.
me (=save=) =dhy==(dhyran) =flu= (flubby) =lem== fdski= in Loose-Deuce where all part of Warbirds Euro Trainers corps.
We all had free shade accounts in Warbirds too, call-signs where known to other trainers only.
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In the first few years AH was like that too. An AH trainer hooked me up with a squad, then again, most of the AH players in the first few years were former wb players.
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Used to play Chuck Yeager's Air Combat and had a friend over for a lan party where we were playing doom and other multiplayer games.
We discussed wishing that we could play multiplayer in Yeager's Air Combat (pc) and he mentioned that he thought he remembered a network tab in a menu of the game that he had installed onto his Mac Graphics work station at work.
Some slick individual then ported either ported the mac version back to dos (pc) or was able to patch the dos version and we got buggy copies we could play multiplayer over a serial link as we were doing with other games at the time.
I think he used the ipx emulation over serial from another game like grand prix racing or got it from a doom bbs.
I later set up a doom server on 4 phone lines at home and got deep into that until I saw Air Warrior and it's multiplayer goodness.
From there it was the Warbirds/CK setup on the network head to head and then the free beta online and then back to Head to Head for a few years before coming back to and leaving warbirds multiple times.
I really miss the Zeppellin from the early Dawn of Aces versions.
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First online air combat sim was Red Baron 3D. It was about 1998. I was looking for a good WW1 air combat game and this one had it all. After I played it for awhile offline only I tried it online. It was limited to about a dozen planes in each "room" but it was very good!
About 2002 Red Baron had died off and I went looking for another air combat sim. Googled and found Aces High. Downloaded and flew for about 30 minutes and I was hooked. It was WW2 but hey, you can't have everything!
I've had a good time. Computer is too old to run the new terrain when it goes live. Oh well, I'll find something else and keep hoping for better days.
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In the 90's I was looking at video games in a store. And I found Air Warrior II, if I remember correctly it came in a card board box like most pc games at the time. I ask because back in those days there were no commercials on tv or online for video games and it got me wondering how people discovered online flight simming. I bet most people discovered it like I did, they saw it on a shelf in a store. Not counting noobs who got into it this century.
Man the 90s were awesome.
Copy word for word, mark out 'Floob' and pencil in 'Arlo.'
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I ran into AH on accident. First flight sim, will probably be my only one too.
If you google "online flight simulator", AH doesnt even appear on the first page. Im not a SEO master but I would imagine bringing AH up in these rankings would be of help to growing the crowd again.
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In 02 I saw a commercial on the military channel for AH1. I downloaded the game the next day. I haven't played in a couple of years now but still have my account. Been thinking about logging in again. Just need to make time.
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Aces High commercial as well.
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Does anyone know how I found AH? :cry
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Does anyone know how I found AH? :cry
Wrapped in a box under a tree when you were eight years old?
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Does anyone know how I found AH? :cry
While shopping for ingredients to make a pie?
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
:aok
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Wow, 2 days, and 2 interesting threads in a row, without any of the usual rowdiness. Full moon or something out?
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I should stay out then...... :D
oh..........
too late
I remember it well, I walked over to my landlord's place, he lived across from me....he is sitting down all hunched over a computer....
I didn't even own a PC at this time, nor did I ever own one before...I am 34 years old...it is 2004
JOZEPI as I am sure some of you will remember was a P38 dweeb...was the landlord.....I asked him what he was doing, he said "fighting people from all over the world"...I was pretty impressed with that in itself...never heard of it before....
I said to him " so you are telling me you can Kill those people...and NOT go to prison.....sign me up"
within the month I tattooed some guy for a computer....
he happened to have Fighter Ace installed in the comp I got from him.....
I practiced offline with Fighter ace because Fighter Ace, had AI that would attack you... whereas Aces High didn't
I could kill all the AI at the highest level,(they came at you in waves of 5...at least thats what I set up.... it was strange the offline "fighter" AI just did circles like AH but load up a bomber enemy and give it escorts and they would attack you)) I showed JOZEPI that I could kill waves after waves of them....he let me fly that day online for the first time....
its funny he was sitting right behind me watching.....my first fight with someone he says..."you cant do that"
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I say why the hell not :t
been called a cheater hundreds of times since..... :rofl :rofl
holy crap.......I just realized.....I have been flying off and on(mostly on) for 10 years in AH.... :O :O
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I was playing Chuck Yeagers Air Combat offline on my brand new Mac. My wife's BIL was over and said that he flew in AW and what fun it was. So, I got myself up and flying in AW Mac version. I spent about a week looking for him before I realized he had a PC. I spent about 6 months flying the Mac version before I got a PC. That's when things really started ! I played AW from then on until EA killed it. I spent time with several squads (ASB, AIF, Motley Aces, Sky something, and ended in +KIC+ (Knights of the Iron Cross). It was a rollicking good time.
After AW died, I tried AH but it wasn't what I hoped it would be. Nothing wrong with it mind you, but I was hoping for an identical AW. That wasn't happening. I flew FA for a short while then I went to Warbirds for about a year and then stopped flying altogether. In the meantime I started playing Delta force with some of my work friends (Army helicopter unit), then I moved on to FPS (Day of Defeat, Battlefield1942, COD...blah, blah, blah).
Back in September/October 2013 I found War Thunder, and dusted off the joystick...which wouldn't work since I no longer had a gameport (it also was analog, so no adapter either), I picked up a nice cheap joystick on ebay, and began flying again in earnest. Once I was flying again the memories came flooding back and being a touch nostalgic, I came back to AH to look for my old flying buddies. War Thunder is pretty, but the gameplay is awful. I like the teamwork I learned in AW, and that is what I see here. Now to just pony up the monthly tab and things will be good again.
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While shopping for ingredients to make a pie?
Yes your right :old:
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I was waiting around in the mall for my wife. I wandered over to a computer software store and they had a "bargain bin" out front. So to kill time I was going through and I found a box with Air Warrior. Took it home and played the crap out of it. Got anyone I could to connect up in a LAN to fight against. Then AOL got the game and was offering for free..... to AOL members :furious So I bit the bullet and joined AOL :bhead We use to spend more time in the "chat rooms" waiting for an opening in the arenas. Once I got in I would spend as much time as I could being someones target :neener:
Stayed with Air Warrior until the end. A squadmate and I hunted around looking for the "next fix" a few months before AW demises. Thru google and every other search engine we could find we looked for flight sim games. We tried FA, WB and AH. AH won hands down.
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I would also say my first head to head vs a human opponent was some F86 game on the good old Commodore 64, the "go to" gaming machine of my high school years, until the early xt/at and 286's came out in my final year. I forget the name of the game, I searched and can't find it for the life of me, but it was a split screen, a horizontal split, and one guy had the top, the other the bottom, and it was my first experience of seeing another plane on screen being flown by a human opponent.
It was as thrilling as the first flight sim that had an external view with a filled in model of the aircraft, I think that was one of the very early Microprose F19 games, just not the first one, it still had the F15 Strike Eagle-like linear models.
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I would also say my first head to head vs a human opponent was some F86 game on the good old Commodore 64, the "go to" gaming machine of my high school years, until the early xt/at and 286's came out in my final year. I forget the name of the game, I searched and can't find it for the life of me, but it was a split screen, a horizontal split, and one guy had the top, the other the bottom, and it was my first experience of seeing another plane on screen being flown by a human opponent.
It was as thrilling as the first flight sim that had an external view with a filled in model of the aircraft, I think that was one of the very early Microprose F19 games, just not the first one, it still had the F15 Strike Eagle-like linear models.
Mig Alley. Split screen.
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I remember it was back in 1999 or 2000 when I was only about 9 years. I didn't have a computer at the time. I had to use the public library to do my homework and projects until one day my dad got me a cheap computer. I think it was a Compact with windows 95 lol. I didn't have Internet at the time but I used the computer to type and create major power points. After I won the school spelling bee contest my parents decided to give me Internet lol. It was really slow dial up connection. Since I was about 4-5 years old my family always gived me either planes or trucks for birthday or Christmas gifts. I had many different kinds of planes from jets to ww1 to jumbo jet planes lol. After then I really fell in love with planes and how kool they looked while flying. After the spelling bee win I became friends with this guy and he loaned me a game call Sabre Ace:Conflict over Korea. After playing the missions and stuff I became a bigger fan of planes and flight sims. After graduating Junior high my dad bought me a better computer with a flat screen, even though it was a 17 inch I was glad to have a new computer. Back then everyone wanted flat screen. He also gives me a better Internet connection and on my free time I enjoyed researching planes especially ww2 planes. I started watching the military channel because they had programs about these planes. Then I saw a commercial about aces high and I downloaded it right away. I didn't have a joystick but I carefully took my time with trial and error and used my mouse and keyboard. Until this day I still use that same computer, mouse and keyboard to fly. Please don't laugh the comp is about 14 years old but with all the history I have with it I just can't let it go. I do have a modern day lap top for personal use. That was around 2006 when I got aces high. (Rud3boi)
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My dad was apart of Air Warrior and began training me to fly this game at a young age. Which explains why I have been around for so long. He has now retired from flight sims and the navy.
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i did a google search on WW2 flight simulator...
same
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
same
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My dad was apart of Air Warrior and began training me to fly this game at a young age. Which explains why I have been around for so long. He has now retired from flight sims and the navy.
GhostCDB / Ratio,
Your story about AW and you going to Annapolis sounds so familiar... One of the many great friends I've the pleasure to of known, had almost the same identical.. Had a young son, who also went to Naval Academy, etc...
I hate that my memory keeps getting more lapsed day by day .... I can not recall your Dad's name or callsign...
Some posts in this thread do bring a lot of them back for me ....
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TC
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I saw Rowan's Battle of Britain at Best Buy back in 2000-2001 (when my dad bought our first computer), so I begged my parents to get it for me.
My addiction stated there.... I got a cheep joystick because I didn't like the mouse, then I got a couple other games like Fighter Pilot. I got Microsoft combat flight simulator 1&2(eventually 3 also), and at some point I found an online game where I could fight other people not predictable AI :aok
It was Tour 35 in AH1, late 2002, and I was 14yrs old :old:
I started out as Mitchk and changed to Mitchell some time later. I flew with the =GHOSTS= :salute
I joined the Marines in 2006 and have played very little over the last few years, but I got the itch bad and now I'm back :airplane:
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Saw an ad for Confirmed Kill in a gaming mag and the rest is history. I think there are still a few CDs floating around here somewhere.
Trying to find a provider that wasn't CompuServe or AOL and had shell access was a bit of a challenge in those days.
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San Diego Computer Expo. They had a group demonstrating flight sims. One group had people online dogfighting in WWII planes. I am pretty sure it was Warbirds. I wanted in on that, but couldn't afford it. Years later, when I became a real computer geek, I went searching for Warbirds. I installed it and played offline for a couple years, because I still couldn't afford to play online. Finally I got a new job, and higher pay, and decided to get online. I loved it. After a year or so I had to quit for a while, for various reasons.
A couple of years later, I decide to go back to Warbirds. For some reason, their servers didn't want to talk to my computer. Their tech support didn't make a serious effort to find a fix, so I went looking for something else. Found Aces High, and loved it even better than Warbirds.
Some time between the computer expo, and Warbirds, I played Wing Commander. In that game you choose a name and a call sign for your pilot. I always liked the cartoon, Rikki Tikki Tavi, So I name my pilot Rick Tavi, and his call sign was Mongoose. I just stuck with that for all my flying games.
<Salute> Hitech. It's been a lot of fun.
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The old fashioned way, a friend told me about air attack after he helped me get my faulty lap top replaced. I looked it up and started learning the game. Then I would go in and find him and let him beat me to a pulp. I would do anything to try and kill him. The best learning experience for me and a blast too. I was hooked. Then the game bellied up and I stumbled across aces high.
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I found European Air War from the stores shelf. The cover sold it to me instantly. This was somewhere around 1998-9. Flew the game offline at first. In the turn of the millenia I got connected to a fibre and realized pretty soon that somewhere in the cool cover of the game was printed that there was this multiplayer option somewhere in it. Decided to try it out. Finding a way to the MSN Lobby was a pain. But once there I got a taste of what the small community of online simmers was as its best. I didn't even realize it then, but I got addicted instanly. Not to game itself but to the community that unlike in previous online games that I had been playing (counter strike for example) and where I got booed for noob and stuff. No, in "The Lobby" I got a pad in the back when I failed - I even got precious advise and encouragement to continue. The rest is pretty much history. EAW was a bit short lived simulator and soon the IL-2 came along and soon after that Aces High 1, then 2.
The addiction is nowhere near of giving up its hooks still...
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Found a five year old review on gamespot in 2005 and took a chance.
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I wish I could remember the first one. It was Battlehawks 1942 back in the 90's. I found AH from a history channel commercial on 06 and have been :joystick: ever since.
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same
Me Too.:cheers:
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Battlehawks 1942
First of the good air combat games. Just looked it up, it came out in 1988 and I got it right away. Flew it with keypad keys.
- oldman
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AOL AW4W.....am still playing on the same puter....well sort of, and unfortunately still using dial up, as my only internet choices here in the mountains of rural Montana are dial up and sattelite, and INK, your sattelite must be better than mine to be able to play AH on sattelite. Oh and my puter has been many times upgraded from that old 1993 Micron, still same keyboard and 3.5 drive is about all that's left from the original Micron.
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I had been playing Video games since the 70s against the computer. Kids don't know how good they have it today. :old:
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Finally in 2003 I went online to download the free Flight Sim from Hitech Creations after seeing a commercial on TV. I really liked the way it was set up and the variety of aircraft available. Messed around offline for a bit but no real challenge there. Bit the bullet and paid the monthly fee and spent awhile to get my first kill. You never forget your first. :D
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I was playing fh ace and someone told me about how much better aceshigh was IN 2002 be playing on and off for years..
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Bought the boxed version of Air Warrior II at Best Buy! I had no Idea what I was in for! Play others online? What? What is this online rubbish? :old:
I remember being at work many years ago and reading an article in one of my magazines. Seems there was this fuss over at Warbirds. Some guy named Dale split with some other folks to start their own online flight sim. Wonder how that turned out................... :aok
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Well I had the old COMODORE 64!!! Play was on Microsofts F-15 Strike Eagle. Wish I had a penny for all the minutes I played that game,I would be loaded. I always loved any sort of flight sim. Does anyone remember the ARCADE flight sims? The ones that moved during flight and cost about buck a game? Think that was why I got my first job. Then Top gun came out. Man those were the days!!! Ofcourse with wife and kids I had to let my commodore go, but now that kids are grown up, I have reverted back to video games. Only thing different is no zits as at times I do still fly in my undies. Well those are different also! :old:
Saw Aces High during an war planes episode on military channel or history channel. Wish I new about it sooner, missed a lot of time.
Thanks for that post, it brought back some mighty fine memories :aok
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Well I had the old COMODORE 64!!! Play was on Microsofts F-15 Strike Eagle. Wish I had a penny for all the minutes I played that game,I would be loaded. I always loved any sort of flight sim. Does anyone remember the ARCADE flight sims? The ones that moved during flight and cost about buck a game? Think that was why I got my first job. Then Top gun came out. Man those were the days!!! Ofcourse with wife and kids I had to let my commodore go, but now that kids are grown up, I have reverted back to video games. Only thing different is no zits as at times I do still fly in my undies. Well those are different also! :old:
Saw Aces High during an war planes episode on military channel or history channel. Wish I new about it sooner, missed a lot of time.
Thanks for that post, it brought back some mighty fine memories :aok
whats your gamer tag?
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I started flight sims on the Commadore 64 with Solo Flight, then F-15 Strike Eagle. When we upgraded to Windows PC I found the Microsoft Flight Sim game and still play FS9 from time to time. I found Aces High when looking for a decent B-17 flight sim. Google lead me to AHII back in 2007 and I have been playing horribly ever since.
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The first online flight sim I flew against another human opponent was Janes Fighters Anthology. The next one was Aces High.
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This is the only flight sim I've ever played. 10 years next month. :aok
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whats your gamer tag?
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Purchased the "Warbirds: Battle of Britain" CD for my then seven-year old son's birthday. He figured out how to play it in no time. Buffs and all. Bombardier positions, gunners, all of it. I was amazed.
Any how, he was having so much fun I decided to try it. Before long I subscribed. Nine years later (non-continuous in-game, mind you) I am still at it...
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16 years ago, my brother-in-law Dennis, decided to ruined my life. You would know him better Wiser. Thanks buddy!
dr7
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I was a regular reader of Computer Gaming World. One month the cover featured a beautiful Spitfire and announced "Confirmed Kill". I didn't had a computer yet and internet was a geek thing.
Confirmed Kill became Warbirds. I got a loan to buy a PC and thrustmaster gear. Had my kicks with 1942 PAW. One day a frien gave me a CD for internet access. I used dial-up on the phone line. You had the phone or internet, could not have both.
Heard about Warbirds, got myself a credit card and set up my connection. Searched around and applied to a brit squad, 249 Sqn RAF. They accepted me. A couple of years later we started to split. Some moved to a new online game, Aces High. I had to upgrade, what took me a year to do. Finally, did the switch. A couple of years later, I'm still here. Holding the squadron's flag high.
Funny, I'm doing this for more than 15 years... now I realize...
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Saw Aces High commercial on the Military Channel. :D
So did I. I believe it was 2006 or 2007.
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Got my 1st computer in '93 & found a copy of Chuck Yeager's Air Combat in a bargain bin in Wal-Mart started it all.
After playing all the boxed sims I bought a boxed vers of Air Warrior II in '96 but couldn't talk myself into paying hourly charges for online access.
Finally got the nerve to sign up for online access when AW3 came out but didn't last long.
Saw an ad in a flight mag about a new online flight sim called Confirmed Kill but didn't take the plunge.
Saw ad in a flight mag about CK turning into a sim named Warbirds due to a dude named Dale Addink who had a visionary direction of what a good flight sim should be & so, after much consternation about paying hourly charges on my phone bill for online access & tiring of flying WB's offline against AI I jumped off the pier in 8-98 & signed up for WB's after buying a better computer to play it on.
Read in '00 or '01 where this dude Dale Addink along w/ other WB knowns left WB's & started a new sim named Aces High but I stayed w/ WB's at that time......................... ....
Was torn between the 2 sims as both were written by this dude named Dale Addink but I stayed w/ WB's until '05 when I tried AH for the 1st time for a short stint & really liked the gameplay but was still hooked in WB's so WB's got the brunt of my playing time but I had made the decision at that time to support these 2 sims so I kept a paid account in both sims to help fund development in both as I had decided that these 2 sims was what I wanted to play & stopped buying boxed games, FPS's & RPG's completely.
When WB's started having issues running on Nvidia vid cards a while back, around '08 I believe & AH had come out w/ the new graphics (which didn't have issues running on Nvidia cards) & the WB's staff seemed too slow to address the issue for me is when I began the shift to playing AHII more than WB's.
Once I played AHII long enough to get familiar w/ the AH FM's is when I really saw the game in a new light & committed to AHII almost completely since.
I still carry a paid subscription to both games but spend 99.5% of my flying time in AHII.
:salute