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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on February 28, 2014, 10:43:25 AM
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Pfc. Tariqka Sheffey is facing a firestorm of criticism even though she told everybody IDGAF. Appears the Army definitely does GAF. Fort Carson spokesman said an investigation into the posting of the image is underway but now Sheffey is claiming it wasn't real and all a joke. Funny how losing your stripes (and the threat of a Dishonorable Discharge) suddenly kickstarts your brain. Who is training these kids? Somebody isn't getting the message across in boot.
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140225/NEWS/302250023/Soldier-flagrantly-avoids-flag-salute-sets-off-online-outrage
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This is the xbox generation. Some joke. I didn't care if it was raining outside, I stopped and saluted the flag. I saw too many people waiting by the doors of the building waiting for the music to stop and the flag lowered so they would not have to salute it. Another example of what the military is becoming, I am glad I retired.
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:headscratch:
Was she not paying attention to these words on multiple occasions?
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
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Apparently repeating an oath and understanding it are two very different things. Oh the bother of raising a right hand and standing at attention for a whole minute. I was doing it as a dependent on base (looking forward to the day it was 'for real').
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Pot stir 2.0
this was already beaten to death.. but then again IDGAFFFF.
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What the FFFF is going through peoples' heads? If everything had gone spectacularly right and according to plan, what did she think would happen after posting that?
Professionalism is practically dead in the military, isn't it? I guess there's only so much they can do once they get hold of people who've grown up in current society.
Damn kids.
Wiley.
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Professionalism is practically dead in the military, isn't it?
No it is not dead. You are seeing the actions of a few. Many of which have never and will never see combat.
Don't lump our professional combat troops and their NCOs and Officers in with these other tards.
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In '81 I was at an airbase I wont name and we were about to lower the flag near the rear gate. I saw traffic whizzing by and something went off in me, I told the other guys to wait until I gave the signal, and with my GAU slung over my should forced all traffic to stop. I told the guys to go ahead, saluted, and the slowest flag lowering ceremony you ever saw began. I waited until the flag was folded and put away in the guard shack before I waved traffic on. By that time they were lined up blocks long "wanting to get home after work" waiting for Old Glory to get her due. I didnt know it at the time but the full Bird Col. of the squadron nearby was watching, the next day I got a personal call from the base commander thanking me but I told him I could only accept credit for us doing our duty as a SP squadron.
I was told days later that an order had been sent to every USAF SP squadron in the world that they were to forcibly stop traffic during every flag ceremony no matter where or what. I dont know if it was true but I know it was true at that base up until the day I left. Of all the things Ive done in my life I think Im proudest of the 4 years I was entrusted with and honored with the raising and lowering of that Flag. When I see these kids coming back shot up, hurt, or dead, "the REAL Heros" I feel like I held up my end by preserving the Honor of that flag. :salute
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Pot stir 2.0
this was already beaten to death.. but then again IDGAFFFF.
This is a completely different incident, but it is starting to show a pattern of disrespect for our national emblem. Training obviously needs to be intensified in this area. It is "a soldier's right to complain", but not to disrespect. This is also a completely volunteer service, so complaints better be legitimate not just "I hate military life". Nobody forced anyone to join.
Rich, well done! Wish I could have been there to see that.
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In '81 I was at an airbase I wont name and we were about to lower the flag near the rear gate. I saw traffic whizzing by and something went off in me, I told the other guys to wait until I gave the signal, and with my GAU slung over my should forced all traffic to stop. I told the guys to go ahead, saluted, and the slowest flag lowering ceremony you ever saw began. I waited until the flag was folded and put away in the guard shack before I waved traffic on. By that time they were lined up blocks long "wanting to get home after work" waiting for Old Glory to get her due. I didnt know it at the time but the full Bird Col. of the squadron nearby was watching, the next day I got a personal call from the base commander thanking me but I told him I could only accept credit for us doing our duty as a SP squadron.
I was told days later that an order had been sent to every USAF SP squadron in the world that they were to forcibly stop traffic during every flag ceremony no matter where or what. I dont know if it was true but I know it was true at that base up until the day I left. Of all the things Ive done in my life I think Im proudest of the 4 years I was entrusted with and honored with the raising and lowering of that Flag. When I see these kids coming back shot up, hurt, or dead, "the REAL Heros" I feel like I held up my end by preserving the Honor of that flag. :salute
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Outstanding, Sir. :salute
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In '81 I was at an airbase I wont name and we were about to lower the flag near the rear gate. I saw traffic whizzing by and something went off in me, I told the other guys to wait until I gave the signal, and with my GAU slung over my should forced all traffic to stop. I told the guys to go ahead, saluted, and the slowest flag lowering ceremony you ever saw began. I waited until the flag was folded and put away in the guard shack before I waved traffic on. By that time they were lined up blocks long "wanting to get home after work" waiting for Old Glory to get her due. I didnt know it at the time but the full Bird Col. of the squadron nearby was watching, the next day I got a personal call from the base commander thanking me but I told him I could only accept credit for us doing our duty as a SP squadron.
I was told days later that an order had been sent to every USAF SP squadron in the world that they were to forcibly stop traffic during every flag ceremony no matter where or what. I dont know if it was true but I know it was true at that base up until the day I left. Of all the things Ive done in my life I think Im proudest of the 4 years I was entrusted with and honored with the raising and lowering of that Flag. When I see these kids coming back shot up, hurt, or dead, "the REAL Heros" I feel like I held up my end by preserving the Honor of that flag. :salute
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+10
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I was sent to Ft. hunter-Liggett from Ft. Bliss for secret weapon testing. While saluting the flag in the mess line I felt this.
The Loma Prieta earthquake, also known as the Quake of '89 and the World Series Earthquake,[4] was a major earthquake that struck the San Francisco Bay Area of California on October 17, 1989, at 5:04 pm local time. Caused by a slip along the San Andreas Fault, the quake lasted 10–15 seconds[1] and measured 6.9 on both the moment magnitude scale[5] and on the Richter magnitude scale.[1] The quake killed 63 people throughout Northern California,[2] injured 3,757[3] and left some 3,000–12,000[1][6][7][8] people homeless.
The earthquake occurred during the warm-up practice for the third game of the 1989 World Series, featuring both of the Bay Area's Major League Baseball teams, the Oakland Athletics and the San Francisco Giants. Because of game-related sports coverage, this was the first major earthquake in the United States to have its initial jolt broadcast live on television.
I will always remember that.
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In '81 I was at an airbase I wont name and we were about to lower the flag near the rear gate. I saw traffic whizzing by and something went off in me, I told the other guys to wait until I gave the signal, and with my GAU slung over my should forced all traffic to stop. I told the guys to go ahead, saluted, and the slowest flag lowering ceremony you ever saw began. I waited until the flag was folded and put away in the guard shack before I waved traffic on. By that time they were lined up blocks long "wanting to get home after work" waiting for Old Glory to get her due. I didnt know it at the time but the full Bird Col. of the squadron nearby was watching, the next day I got a personal call from the base commander thanking me but I told him I could only accept credit for us doing our duty as a SP squadron.
I was told days later that an order had been sent to every USAF SP squadron in the world that they were to forcibly stop traffic during every flag ceremony no matter where or what. I dont know if it was true but I know it was true at that base up until the day I left. Of all the things Ive done in my life I think Im proudest of the 4 years I was entrusted with and honored with the raising and lowering of that Flag. When I see these kids coming back shot up, hurt, or dead, "the REAL Heros" I feel like I held up my end by preserving the Honor of that flag. :salute
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:salute i am not in the military and never have been.. but i am an american.
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I just got out in September, and I'm happy that I am but damn I liked my job.......but folks treat it more like a company and not a military. Got on my nerves.
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I'm sure that what she did was nothing new or special. Others were just smart enough not to publish their slacking on social media. I hate that even though I've chosen not to participate in them, media still pushes the scum up to the headlines.
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Social media is like channel 200 :old:
I would join a social media site but I having nothing talk about :old:
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Something needs to be done at basic training level to stress the importance of this ceremony. Rich I do not know about you but to the colors and retreat have always put a lump in my throat.
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In '81 I was at an airbase I wont name and we were about to lower the flag near the rear gate. I saw traffic whizzing by and something went off in me, I told the other guys to wait until I gave the signal, and with my GAU slung over my should forced all traffic to stop. I told the guys to go ahead, saluted, and the slowest flag lowering ceremony you ever saw began. I waited until the flag was folded and put away in the guard shack before I waved traffic on. By that time they were lined up blocks long "wanting to get home after work" waiting for Old Glory to get her due. I didnt know it at the time but the full Bird Col. of the squadron nearby was watching, the next day I got a personal call from the base commander thanking me but I told him I could only accept credit for us doing our duty as a SP squadron.
I was told days later that an order had been sent to every USAF SP squadron in the world that they were to forcibly stop traffic during every flag ceremony no matter where or what. I dont know if it was true but I know it was true at that base up until the day I left. Of all the things Ive done in my life I think Im proudest of the 4 years I was entrusted with and honored with the raising and lowering of that Flag. When I see these kids coming back shot up, hurt, or dead, "the REAL Heros" I feel like I held up my end by preserving the Honor of that flag. :salute
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:salute :cheers:
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I see it as fake since she appears to be a bit too dolled up for duty, but the point is still made. On FW this would be call an example of @#%$ @#%%*!.
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I cant now, and didnt then, take credit for anything. I was just a member of a team doing our duty as care takers of the very symbol that represents the sacrifices made for our Freedom.
The "Hero's" never made it back. Or made it back hurt and/or broken. We must never forget them or allow them to be dishonored in any way. :salute
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I see it as fake since she appears to be a bit too dolled up for duty, but the point is still made. On FW this would be call an example of @#%$ @#%%*!.
Well that's no judge if she works in a office if I recall she did they'll look like that and worse on duty. As far as I know there are no rules against it.
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I was in service from 75 thru 80 at Ft. Campbell, A Company, 1/506 Infantry. Our barracks was miles from the base flag and we could never actually hear a bugle since it wasn't sent out on any loudspeakers near us. If you happened to know what time it was or if you saw someone stop and come to attention it meant something to pay attention to. But every time I was in the area of base command everything stopped, and everyone got out of their cars or stopped walking and either saluted or if civilian put their hand over their heart. No one seemed to mind, it was just what you did to show a bit of respect.
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I'm not even going to comment because it fires me up too much for here.
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I guess my perspective people in the military are not good, honest and decent people. I do not think is OK either. But I remember way back when I was stationed in Germany 2 soldiers raped, murdered and duped the body of a woman in the woods. I just think what she did should be kept in perspective. The most disappointing thing I remember about the Army were some of the people in it.
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crap like this has been going on since day one. it isnt something new. as much as old farts like me keep saying that "back in the old days, it didnt happen.....". it did happen. the only exception is back in the day there wasnt pictures or internet for idiots to boast how they "broke" the rules.
when i was in high school from 80-84. I had just moved here. I never understood how some (a few) people had little respect for the flag. when I enlisted, I saw the same thing. a few guys who always wanted to "be different". they thought it was funny. idiots will be idiots.
when I was growing up in my country I was always amazed that some american students would burn the american flag. I never understood why they did it. even today I still dont understand it. if they were protesting the war what does burning the flag accomplished? I understood those who ripped their draft cards, it was a way to say, I am not going, and I respected that. but burning the flag? where they saying, I am leaving? I am not longer an american? that seem weird to me.
semp
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oops, I should have proofread my post. I guess my perspective NOT ALL people in the military are not good, honest and decent people.
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When I was at the USAF academy, for the entire 4 years I was there, every morning we all got up and stood in formation to watch the flag go up. The weather conditions required to cancel the ceremony were brutally harsh, so we stood out there in the rain, snow, etc. The lesson being taught, every day for 4 years, was that NO MATTER WHAT else you had going on that day, no matter what else was going on in your life, standing there with your comrades watching the flag go up was the single most important thing for you to do that day.
Call it brainwashing, or call it instilling a sense of duty in those who will need it the most as they will someday become the next generation of senior military leaders, it was effective to those with a sense of duty and ineffective for those too self-centered to get the message. If 4 years of that isn't enough then they can't possibly be reached by anything and aren't worth my time/effort/trust.
Strangely enough, with all the things going on right now in the military, they seem to keep doing away with this morning ceremony, making it optional or making it a hardship split amongst the cadet groups on a rotating schedule. I personally think that ends up sending the exact opposite message, but they didn't ask my opinion.
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While this behavior is shameful, I don't understand why it is surprising to some of you.
Now, as always, the majority of the people who join the military are doing so because they have no other options open to them in life. It's not because they love their country. It's because they are losers who can't succeed at anything else. "Ohhh sweet, the army will take me and pay me and train me even though I'm a total no-hoper!"
Of course they are going to continue to be failures and f***ups in the armed forces, just as they were in civilian life.
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While this behavior is shameful, I don't understand why it is surprising to some of you.
Now, as always, the majority of the people who join the military are doing so because they have no other options open to them in life. It's not because they love their country. It's because they are losers who can't succeed at anything else. "Ohhh sweet, the army will take me and pay me and train me even though I'm a total no-hoper!"
Of course they are going to continue to be failures and f***ups in the armed forces, just as they were in civilian life.
Gemini even for a gaming forum your an idiot.
The rest of you, and I hope my word counts to you, I am constantly running into youngsters OTW to Basic at an airport security detail and Im constantly impressed by the morals and motivations of these young people. Think EVERY American kid can pass strict background checks? Also Im a father of one.
Whatever you believe please think hard about what this imbecile Gemini said. The day we start blindly blaming the 99% for the actions of the 1% is the day we might as well just burn that Constitution. Boy I'd love to see this mommies boy say that to some marines fresh back from Afghanistan. I bet Gemini would do poo poo in his pants directly.
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your an idiot.
Oh sweet irony.
It's a shame that you can't help yourself from making personal attacks whenever someone has an opinion that you don't like (ref: last Words fail me thread, and the Other countries thread in GD)
Given that you seem to hate other people having freedom of speech/opinion, maybe you should just wrap your copy of the Constitution up in 'Old Glory', and burn the whole lot?
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and everyone got out of their cars or stopped walking and either saluted or if civilian put their hand over their heart.
1950s I could see that happening. 2014 I think people are much more educated and open minded to not fall into rituals like that, on man made institutions. World is changing.
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1950s I could see that happening. 2014 I think people are much more lazy and self-centered to respect traditions like that, on man made institutions. World is changing.
Fixed. And every institution is 'man made.'
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I don't think it has anything to do with laziness or open-mindedness, people today just tend to have a different perspective on ritual and symbolism than they did 30 years ago. It's not better or worse, it's just different.
50 years ago maybe people would have stopped and showed respect for the flag under any circumstances, but they were also terrible and nasty to kids returning home from Vietnam. Today people may care a bit less about the symbolism, but our soldiers are much better taken care of and respected (Westboro Baptist Church nonwithstanding), as far as my current perspective seems to suggest, in a very similar situation.
It's more about the material now than colored fabric.
People in the military or outside of it may not respect the flag as much, but no one is refusing veterans service at restaurants because they think they're babykillers, either, regardless of perspective on what's going on throughout the world. If the situations were reversed, I tend to think that you all would look just as bad (if not much, much worse) to the current generation as we do to you.
It's not necessarily better or worse (and saying this as someone who tends to put a little bit more in sentiment in ritual than much of the population), it's just a different perspective and outlook
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It's a shame that you can't help yourself from making personal attacks whenever someone has an opinion that you don't like (ref: last Words fail me thread, and the Other countries thread in GD)
Why was it me insulting 600,000 people sworn to service to their country. Even to die for it?
squealing Idiot!
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It's a shame that you can't help yourself from making personal attacks whenever someone has an opinion that you don't like
I would say your original post is a personal attack on every active duty member on this board. As well as every veteran and family member of current or former service members.
All that aside what you wrote was nothing more than an ignorant assumption at best. Or possibly just the wishful thinking of a person who doesn't have the guts discipline or fiber
to serve his country.
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As much as US military history is a part of my life, i would have loved to serve in some form. I tried to enlist after i got my degree in Forestry/GIS in hopes of being a spatial analyst in the army or AF. Got PDQ'd though due to a vascular stent implanted to open up my compressed illiac vein (may-thurner syndrome). Even though i can be proud for trying, i'll always feel that i missed an opportunity to give back to an institution that has been my passion since childhood. I remember idiot kids in high school not standing up for the Pledge and didn't give a hoot. Don't want to knock on anyone having not been in that situation myself, but the past few topics involving this issue have depicted individuals who do not realize that they represent a spirit larger than themselves. it gets my blood boiling when someone disgraces the flag, memory and sacrifice of our fighting forces.
They'll have my support. :salute
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I find this unbelievable
Even as a Cadet (JROTC in the USA), we stood fast on position when either the flag was raised, or the anthem played. No exceptions.
We were a bunch of undeveloped and immature Australian teenagers playing at soldiers... The very idea that a serving United States Soldier would disregard such an integral part of their culture... is disturbing to say the least.
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I would say your original post is a personal attack on every active duty member on this board.
You are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to express my thoughts on why the vast majority of people join the military.
I am not sure about a lack of guts, discipline, or fibre...if anything the problem is that I am overburdened with intelligence.
I'd sign up to defend our country in heartbeat if we were actually threatened, but to risk my life/well-being to make rich people richer by signing up as cannon fodder? No thanks.
I'm not sure who is more hopeless...the person who joins the military because they have no other option in life, or the person who does so because they actually believe that they are doing something to defend the USA.
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In '81 I was at an airbase I wont name and we were about to lower the flag near the rear gate. I saw traffic whizzing by and something went off in me, I told the other guys to wait until I gave the signal, and with my GAU slung over my should forced all traffic to stop. I told the guys to go ahead, saluted, and the slowest flag lowering ceremony you ever saw began. I waited until the flag was folded and put away in the guard shack before I waved traffic on. By that time they were lined up blocks long "wanting to get home after work" waiting for Old Glory to get her due. I didnt know it at the time but the full Bird Col. of the squadron nearby was watching, the next day I got a personal call from the base commander thanking me but I told him I could only accept credit for us doing our duty as a SP squadron.
I was told days later that an order had been sent to every USAF SP squadron in the world that they were to forcibly stop traffic during every flag ceremony no matter where or what. I dont know if it was true but I know it was true at that base up until the day I left. Of all the things Ive done in my life I think Im proudest of the 4 years I was entrusted with and honored with the raising and lowering of that Flag. When I see these kids coming back shot up, hurt, or dead, "the REAL Heros" I feel like I held up my end by preserving the Honor of that flag. :salute
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Pfc. Tariqka Sheffey is facing a firestorm of criticism even though she told everybody IDGAF. Appears the Army definitely does GAF. Fort Carson spokesman said an investigation into the posting of the image is underway but now Sheffey is claiming it wasn't real and all a joke. Funny how losing your stripes (and the threat of a Dishonorable Discharge) suddenly kickstarts your brain. Who is training these kids? Somebody isn't getting the message across in boot.
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140225/NEWS/302250023/Soldier-flagrantly-avoids-flag-salute-sets-off-online-outrage
Well good for her, I assume she is a proud little girl. Unfortunately, She may not understand her actions and will be punished before she does. Who wants to take up a collection to ship her to the nearest international border crossing, Im thinking the Atlantic. Carry on.
Spoiled brats brought up on hate should get what they want. Ship them to the Ocean. Im sorry your time hear was bad but we must dust the floor and you have got to go.
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Having learned of the disgusting things americans have done and still do I understand Not Trusting the Government and we all have a right to protest. But this girl, In a Army Uniform, wants to protest the Flag of 1700? Personally I think STFU I dont give a dam u spoiled little girl.
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You are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to express my thoughts on why the vast majority of people join the military.
I am not sure about a lack of guts, discipline, or fibre...if anything the problem is that I am overburdened with intelligence.
I'd sign up to defend our country in heartbeat if we were actually threatened, but to risk my life/well-being to make rich people richer by signing up as cannon fodder? No thanks.
I'm not sure who is more hopeless...the person who joins the military because they have no other option in life, or the person who does so because they actually believe that they are doing something to defend the USA.
Thank you sir. You have insulted me. I did join the military, and I did defend the USA. Now I find out from you I did it because I was hopeless.
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You are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to express my thoughts on why the vast majority of people join the military.
I am not sure about a lack of guts, discipline, or fibre...if anything the problem is that I am overburdened with intelligence.
I'd sign up to defend our country in heartbeat if we were actually threatened, but to risk my life/well-being to make rich people richer by signing up as cannon fodder? No thanks.
I'm not sure who is more hopeless...the person who joins the military because they have no other option in life, or the person who does so because they actually believe that they are doing something to defend the USA.
Wow. Just.....wow....
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I did join the military, and I did defend the USA.
Of course you did :rolleyes:
I understand that it makes you angry when someone like me has a different opinion of our armed forces and what they are used for than you guys who are serving or have served...but let's not get the thread locked with a bunch of political crap or personal abuse eh?
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Thank you sir. You have insulted me. I did join the military, and I did defend the USA. Now I find out from you I did it because I was hopeless.
Hey I was hopeless too! I went from town to town job to job and found a way. You army guys are not the only hopless ones and dont you forget it.
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if anything the problem is that I am overburdened with intelligence.
you want to talk? 80$ a hour.
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Theres always one isnt there?
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This is the most easily trolled board on the internet
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This is the most easily trolled board on the internet
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He's just a kid. A goofy kid. Nothing to get upset over.
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You are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to express my thoughts on why the vast majority of people join the military.
I am not sure about a lack of guts, discipline, or fibre...if anything the problem is that I am overburdened with intelligence.
I'd sign up to defend our country in heartbeat if we were actually threatened, but to risk my life/well-being to make rich people richer by signing up as cannon fodder? No thanks.
I'm not sure who is more hopeless...the person who joins the military because they have no other option in life, or the person who does so because they actually believe that they are doing something to defend the USA.
You don't come across as intelligent, much less overburdened with it. You do seem overburdened with self adoration and bulls**t though. :aok
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Self-adoration :rofl More delicious irony coming from the 'defending freedom ( :rolleyes:) makes me better than everyone else' camp.
It's OK though, you're among friends here so you can be sure of lots of pats on the back and ego-stroking.
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Self-adoration :rofl More delicious irony coming from the 'defending freedom ( :rolleyes:) makes me better than everyone else' camp.
I never said defending freedom makes me better than everyone else. You said people who join the military are hopeless.
A guy as overburdened with intelligence as yourself should have remembered that.
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I haven't even joined yet and I'm considered hopeless...
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While this behavior is shameful, I don't understand why it is surprising to some of you.
Now, as always, the majority of the people who join the military are doing so because they have no other options open to them in life. It's not because they love their country. It's because they are losers who can't succeed at anything else. "Ohhh sweet, the army will take me and pay me and train me even though I'm a total no-hoper!"
Of course they are going to continue to be failures and f***ups in the armed forces, just as they were in civilian life.
oh the irony, first insult our guys. then request that they be sent to war.
No way, the A-Team have like...reverse auto-aim or something. No matter how much they shoot they never hit anything! :D
What the hell is wrong with you? Do you hate freedom or something? You want the terrorists to win?
(http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/images/smilies/flag.gif) These colors don't run
semp
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Now, as always, the majority of the people who join the military are doing so because they have no other options open to them in life. It's not because they love their country. It's because they are losers who can't succeed at anything else. "Ohhh sweet, the army will take me and pay me and train me even though I'm a total no-hoper!"
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You have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. Dick. How stupid you look even writing that.