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Title: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: wpeters on February 28, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
 Well ours is bigger. :D  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/tJDNYa2.png)


Need I say more?
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Post by: DaCoon on February 28, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
nice      :cheers:
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Post by: GScholz on February 28, 2014, 03:36:42 PM
Compensating for something?  :aok
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Post by: lunatic1 on February 28, 2014, 05:06:02 PM
and if i'm not mistaken--we have more of them--and ours is better. :salute
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Post by: Vulcan on February 28, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
I'm just gonna leave this here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

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Post by: Easyscor on February 28, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
I'm just gonna leave this here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt


How in the world can Ireland and Iceland possibly have that much debt? They make Spain and Greece look positively frugal.
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Post by: GScholz on February 28, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
Those are meaningless statistics on their own and without context. Iceland is big in banking and if a foreign entity deposits a million Dollars into an Icelandic bank then Iceland's foreign debt increases by one million Dollars. By those statistics every singe Luxembourgian citizen owes more then $3 million to foreigners...

As the article says: "Note that while a country may have a relatively large external debt (either in absolute or per capita terms), it could be a "net international creditor" if its external debt is less than the total of the external debt of other countries held by it. For example, Norway, Luxembourg, Switzerland, China and others are net international creditors."
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: GScholz on February 28, 2014, 07:16:36 PM
As for America's superior carriers... Unlike Europe you guys need them to get to anywhere interesting.  ;)

What possible use could Europe have for such a navy? Invade Canada?  :lol

The Middle East, Africa... All the interesting places are within driving distance. In a pinch I suppose we could walk to China.
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Post by: Easyscor on February 28, 2014, 07:20:19 PM
Ah, thanks. That's what I get for scrolling straight to the table in a Wiki page.

 :salute
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Post by: Fulcrum on February 28, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
Some would say they make bigger targets.  I'm sure that's what Vlad's thinking right about now. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-latest--the-invasion-begins-armed-russianspeaking-gunmen-with-crimea-in-their-grip-as-barack-obama-warns-moscow-9161476.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-latest--the-invasion-begins-armed-russianspeaking-gunmen-with-crimea-in-their-grip-as-barack-obama-warns-moscow-9161476.html)

No worries, Vlad.  The current US administration will stand around and do nothing....as usual.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 28, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
Once the government defaults there will be no funds to run them anymore...  :rock
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Post by: Meatwad on February 28, 2014, 07:45:17 PM
Once the government defaults there will be no funds to run them anymore...  :rock

Sure there will be. Just need a guy beating on a drum and about 2000 people rowing
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Post by: HL117 on February 28, 2014, 08:57:25 PM
Once the government defaults there will be no funds to run them anymore...  :rock


fiat money = you keep printing it, funds are limitless.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: LCADolby on February 28, 2014, 09:08:18 PM
This is the size of the British aircraft carrier

(http://www.skiclub.co.uk/assets/guides/uksnowsports/images/gboutline.gif)

No one elses comes close

 :neener:
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on February 28, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
This is the size of the British aircraft carrier

(http://www.skiclub.co.uk/assets/guides/uksnowsports/images/gboutline.gif)

No one elses comes close

 :neener:
Hmm...

It seems to be stationary. Is it supposed to be?  :neener:
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: GScholz on February 28, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
It's sailing towards America at a speed of 2 cm/year, so watch out 'Muricans!
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Post by: LCADolby on February 28, 2014, 10:17:30 PM
It moves millimetres a year  :D
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Post by: Nathan60 on February 28, 2014, 10:25:09 PM
This is the size of the British aircraft carrier

(http://www.skiclub.co.uk/assets/guides/uksnowsports/images/gboutline.gif)

No one elses comes close

 :neener:
if that's the case the Aussies have you beat.
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Post by: HL117 on February 28, 2014, 10:26:16 PM
The Red Coats Are Comming !!
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Post by: mthrockmor on February 28, 2014, 11:19:37 PM
I'm Austrian in my economic views. That being said I pray Keynes is right. Otherwise we are all screwed!!
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Post by: mthrockmor on February 28, 2014, 11:26:37 PM
PS Here is a link to an audit performed of the Federal Reserve. In addition to the $17 trillion of public debt the Fed has printed another $16.3 trillion "off book" and lent it to big firms, banks, etc around the world. All of this is printed debt, not backed by bonds, etc., other than the funny bonds the Feds issue then buy themselves. So, double Americas debt. And the formulas that reflect the "off book" debt it is likely up to around $20 trillion now, putting total US debt around $37 trillion. Or so it would appear.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/the-fed-audit
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: mechanic on February 28, 2014, 11:39:24 PM
Ah, I see what the OP is saying. The rest of us are better pilots who need much less deck to land on.

I think this is profound and true, well stated OP.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: Volron on February 28, 2014, 11:51:13 PM
I'm just gonna leave this here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt



Only 106% of GDP.  Looks a bit better than a couple of other countries... :noid
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: Saxman on February 28, 2014, 11:57:23 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/04/article-0-0BE81D2D000005DC-339_634x455.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/04/article-1326573-0BE81C96000005DC-804_634x326.jpg)
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: Saxman on March 01, 2014, 12:06:36 AM
More pics of this project:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/legomonster/sets/72157623014225989/with/5044107351/
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Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on March 01, 2014, 12:30:03 AM
It moves millimetres a year  :D
Must take you a LOONGGG time to sail where you want to go.  :D
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Post by: mechanic on March 01, 2014, 12:50:44 AM
Must take you a LOONGGG time to sail where you want to go.  :D

we are where we want to be already

actually that's a lie, it's bloody cold here.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: LCADolby on March 01, 2014, 01:04:24 AM
It'd be nice to be more SW  :)
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Post by: zack1234 on March 01, 2014, 03:06:04 AM
They are not YOUR aircraft carriers they are the Governments :old:

Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on March 01, 2014, 07:18:47 AM
It'd be nice to be more SW  :)
Maybe you'll be there in a few million years.  :)
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 01, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Maybe you'll be there in a few million years.  :)

I bet he can't wait for that to happen.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: Dragon on March 01, 2014, 05:47:36 PM
They are not YOUR aircraft carriers they are the Governments :old:



We paid for them.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: zack1234 on March 02, 2014, 03:40:33 AM
We paid for them.

So?
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Post by: artik on March 02, 2014, 08:18:53 AM
What possible use could Europe have for such a navy? Invade Canada?  :lol

The Middle East, Africa... All the interesting places are within driving distance. In a pinch I suppose we could walk to China.

Lend us a carrier for several weeks and we'll find a very good use for it  :bolt:



BTW this list is missing one new shiny carrier:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/INS_Vikramaditya_%28R33%29_with_a_Sea_Harrier.jpg/640px-INS_Vikramaditya_%28R33%29_with_a_Sea_Harrier.jpg)
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: GScholz on March 02, 2014, 09:34:42 AM
Well, newish...
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: GScholz on March 02, 2014, 09:36:40 AM
What would Israel do with one carrier?
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Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 02, 2014, 10:38:51 AM
From the look of it (Ukraine) you'll be able to test your 'toys' again soon enough.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: GScholz on March 02, 2014, 10:48:21 AM
How? By sailing carriers through the Bosporos? Don't think so. Any military intervention will be from land based aircraft.
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 02, 2014, 10:52:23 AM
How? By sailing carriers through the Bosporos? Don't think so. Any military intervention will be from land based aircraft.

The planes have long enough legs to operate from the medierranean.
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Post by: Slate on March 02, 2014, 11:04:22 AM

  Nice Pics of the US Virgin Killlands.  :salute
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Post by: mtnman on March 02, 2014, 11:05:55 AM
They are not YOUR aircraft carriers they are the Governments :old:


We own the government (although I think they'd like us to conveniently forget that at times); what's "theirs" is truly "ours".
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: zack1234 on March 02, 2014, 11:20:38 AM
From the look of it (Ukraine) you'll be able to test your 'toys' again soon enough.

Its was North Korea last year and you were all filling your fallout shelters with tins of beans :old:

Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: GScholz on March 02, 2014, 11:36:16 AM
The planes have long enough legs to operate from the medierranean.

Then why not fly them from Greece, Turkey, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania or Bulgaria?

(http://philebersole.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/27602.gif)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/NATO_expansion.png/720px-NATO_expansion.png)
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: artik on March 02, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
"
From the look of it (Ukraine) you'll be able to test your 'toys' again soon enough.

You are sooooooooo optimistic  :rofl

You know, I called them toys not because of what can they do but because how they are used :bolt:

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How? By sailing carriers through the Bosporos? Don't think so. Any military intervention will be from land based aircraft.

The problem is actually Dardanelles, US aircraft carriers are not allowed to pass through (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits#Terms_and_consequences_of_the_Convention) and Russians can (as they operate "Heavy Aircraft Carrying Cruiser" and Black Sea power)
Title: Re: You say yours is BIG.
Post by: zack1234 on March 02, 2014, 12:12:29 PM
When is the new update?
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Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on March 02, 2014, 12:45:40 PM
When is the new update?
Shhhhh....

 :noid