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Title: NEED to KNOW
Post by: swinger on March 02, 2014, 09:29:50 PM
Just received my new comp, Alienware X51 R2 from Dell. Win 7 Home Prem. 16gig.
No VIRUS or POPUP BLOCKERS program.
Would U suggest a workable one? Ads keep poping up on this web site plus
@ other locations, quite annoying.
Help would certainly be appreciated.
 :old:
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: The Fugitive on March 02, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
For a browser I use Pale Moon (palemoon.org) and I installed the add-on AdBlockPlus Does a great job.

Avira Anti-virus (its free and works well)
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: BluBerry on March 02, 2014, 10:49:49 PM
Ads keep poping up on this web site plus

if ads are popping up on the HTC website or the forums, then you already have a virus buddy.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 03, 2014, 11:22:18 AM
if ads are popping up on the HTC website or the forums, then you already have a virus buddy.

Not necessarily. The OEM crapware may include a browser extension that will 'suggest' ads from website keywords. Probably a way to get extra revenue for the OEM. If it's not a virus it will show up in regular extensions.

What can I say except.. Dude you got a Dell :D
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: swinger on March 03, 2014, 12:22:30 PM
as we speak my comp is becoming a VIRGIN, by a proffessonal.
hope this rids the injected stuff by dell. :x
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: swinger on March 04, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Hey Ripley: Checked with the comp doctors they have never heard of that kind of program, I showed them a copy of Ur statement. They are excited to see after their fix if this happens, If it's true , they will ALL experience a revelation in their learning years. :)
But thanks for bringing that up.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 05, 2014, 04:12:35 AM
Hey Ripley: Checked with the comp doctors they have never heard of that kind of program, I showed them a copy of Ur statement. They are excited to see after their fix if this happens, If it's true , they will ALL experience a revelation in their learning years. :)
But thanks for bringing that up.

The 'doctors' don't seem very experienced :) Here's one example: http://forums.anvisoft.com/viewtopic-57-6521-0.html

This kind of stuff is commonly implemented in different freeware downloads these days and it wouldn't surprise me at all if OEM like Dell would include it in their crapware package called 'factory installation'.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: swinger on March 05, 2014, 11:59:18 AM
Ripley: Thanks, checked my word layers etc. I'm clean. :banana:
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 05, 2014, 12:53:26 PM
Ripley: Thanks, checked my word layers etc. I'm clean. :banana:

You mean you don't get ad popups anymore? If you do and you don't see any extensions that means you have a more malicious version that doesn't let you see it / uninstall it.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: gyrene81 on March 06, 2014, 09:07:25 AM
The 'doctors' don't seem very experienced :) Here's one example: http://forums.anvisoft.com/viewtopic-57-6521-0.html

This kind of stuff is commonly implemented in different freeware downloads these days and it wouldn't surprise me at all if OEM like Dell would include it in their crapware package called 'factory installation'.
:rofl   :lol   :rofl   :lol  Dell does indeed load a lot of crapware on their systems, but nothing like what you're claiming. by the sounds of it, Swinger clicked on something he shouldn't have on the internet.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 06, 2014, 10:23:44 AM
:rofl   :lol   :rofl   :lol  Dell does indeed load a lot of crapware on their systems, but nothing like what you're claiming. by the sounds of it, Swinger clicked on something he shouldn't have on the internet.

Since I don't touch OEM crap with a ten foot pole I can't say if Dell includes stuff like that or not - but based on the OPs description there was a suspicion. And it is within the realm of possibility that OEMs would include crapware that's borderline offensive.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: gyrene81 on March 06, 2014, 02:58:28 PM
Ripley, you have a bad habit of tossing generalized statements around based on little to no first hand knowledge. you would have done better to not assume the OP had just unboxed his system and jumped right on these forums then got popups without having browsed any other website and/or moved files from his old system to the new one.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: swinger on March 07, 2014, 04:52:22 AM
I did clip on bad something. ALL has been corrected & webroot has been installed and working fine. The comp is great on speed & clarity.
Thanks to ALL for Ur input, us SENIORS need help from the younger up to date people. :salute
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Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 07, 2014, 10:17:28 AM
Ripley, you have a bad habit of tossing generalized statements around based on little to no first hand knowledge. you would have done better to not assume the OP had just unboxed his system and jumped right on these forums then got popups without having browsed any other website and/or moved files from his old system to the new one.

You have a bad habit on attacking me for no reason. The OP had malware and in the end it makes no difference if it was him or Dell that put it there.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: guncrasher on March 07, 2014, 11:28:29 AM
Since I don't touch OEM crap with a ten foot pole I can't say if Dell includes stuff like that or not - but based on the OPs description there was a suspicion. And it is within the realm of possibility that OEMs would include crapware that's borderline offensive.

when you build a computer for somebody else isnt what you install OEM?  unless of course you build your own mobos, ps, vc...



semp

edit for example:  this version of win7 is listed as OEM   http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=windows+7&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: Debrody on March 07, 2014, 11:50:22 AM
look at Mr Smartarse... geez dude, get a life.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on March 07, 2014, 11:51:19 AM
when you build a computer for somebody else isnt what you install OEM?  unless of course you build your own mobos, ps, vc...



semp

edit for example:  this version of win7 is listed as OEM   http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=windows+7&N=-1&isNodeId=1



OEM installation media has nothing to do with OEM computer manufacturers per se. The OEM license is just a different packaging for windows that is targeted to small scale computer manufacturers. OEM installs come only with an install media and no support from MS, OEMs are expected (obliged actually) to provide support and instructions to their customers as part of the EULA.

OEM builder such as Dell will use volume licensing deals on their products and deliver their computers with a preinstalled 'added value' software which most people consider as borderline harmful since they usually do nothing more than consume resources and cause trouble. This is why you see people with store bought computers that have 100+ processes running straight out of the box ;)
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: guncrasher on March 07, 2014, 12:41:48 PM
OEM installation media has nothing to do with OEM computer manufacturers per se. The OEM license is just a different packaging for windows that is targeted to small scale computer manufacturers. OEM installs come only with an install media and no support from MS, OEMs are expected (obliged actually) to provide support and instructions to their customers as part of the EULA.

OEM builder such as Dell will use volume licensing deals on their products and deliver their computers with a preinstalled 'added value' software which most people consider as borderline harmful since they usually do nothing more than consume resources and cause trouble. This is why you see people with store bought computers that have 100+ processes running straight out of the box ;)

when you build a computer you are an OEM computer manufacturer for sure.  just trying to make it clear between computer manufacturers such as del, gatewate... some here call them brand name computer manufactures and other people who also build computers as a business but wont install anything additional.

semp

a little bit of a difference.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: gyrene81 on March 07, 2014, 02:26:32 PM
when you build a computer you are an OEM computer manufacturer for sure.
i hate when i have to side with Ripley but, he was right. a simple google search would show you that. the only time you could be remotely considered an OEM is if you built systems for sale to other people and supported those systems.
Title: Re: NEED to KNOW
Post by: guncrasher on March 07, 2014, 04:43:39 PM
i hate when i have to side with Ripley but, he was right. a simple google search would show you that. the only time you could be remotely considered an OEM is if you built systems for sale to other people and supported those systems.

exactly what i was saying.  want taking about building your own computers.


semp