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Title: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: mthrockmor on March 05, 2014, 10:25:29 AM
...on the Golan Heights of Syria. It would appear that the Syrians were using these vehicles as late as 1964 when they were destroyed in fighting with the IDF. I had never heard this. Can anyone verify?
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: cpxxx on March 05, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
Yes it's true. It's not new though.  They used them up to 1967 I think mostly dug in on the Golan heights. The Israelis captured a few and have them in a museum. (http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/russia-soviet-union-armour-artillery-vehicles/50045d1312768884t-t-34-post-ww2-casualities-use-800px-pz-ivg-latrun-2.jpg)
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: bigsky on March 05, 2014, 12:22:40 PM
German stuff still in use by Syria.
(http://s10.postimg.org/3ub3nqzt5/242343.jpg)
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Arlo on March 05, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
Let's see ....

Spark plug .... check!

Energy drink .... check!

Walkie talkie .... check!

Gun controller with 90 ft of cable, fiber-optics, scope and a monitor to operate the old German assault rifle bolted to the control box .... check!

Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 05, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
...on the Golan Heights of Syria. It would appear that the Syrians were using these vehicles as late as 1964 when they were destroyed in fighting with the IDF. I had never heard this. Can anyone verify?

During the Arab and Israeli wars, the Arab side used both German and Soviet WW2 surplus armor, I think mostly Egypt and Syria.

ack-ack
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: bigsky on March 05, 2014, 02:36:37 PM
I would guess that the Soviets had vast numbers of captured German stuff to give away. I do not think that they dumped any military stuff as junk.
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Arlo on March 05, 2014, 02:49:39 PM
I would guess that the Soviets had vast numbers of captured German stuff to give away.

By 'give away' you mean sell at inflated prices, yes?
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: DaveBB on March 05, 2014, 04:43:52 PM
During the 6 day war, Israel was using up-gunned Sherman tanks (this was 1967!).
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: bigsky on March 05, 2014, 05:52:38 PM
By 'give away' you mean sell at inflated prices, yes?
I am not sure how the whole fellow comrade socialist revolutionary economic system worked. But i remember i pic from Vietnam war where the VC had MG-42s. 
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Karnak on March 05, 2014, 05:59:35 PM
During the 6 day war, Israel was using up-gunned Sherman tanks (this was 1967!).
Centurions as well, no?
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Slash27 on March 05, 2014, 06:12:54 PM
German stuff still in use by Syria.
(http://s10.postimg.org/3ub3nqzt5/242343.jpg)
xbox generation :rolleyes:
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 05, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
I would guess that the Soviets had vast numbers of captured German stuff to give away. I do not think that they dumped any military stuff as junk.

Most of the Soviet armor the Arabs used were made post-war by Iron Block countries, like Czechoslovakia that made the T-34/85s the Egyptians used during the Arab-Israeli wars.

ack-ack
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: bigsky on March 05, 2014, 08:09:56 PM
Most of the Soviet armor the Arabs used were made post-war by Iron Block countries, like Czechoslovakia that made the T-34/85s the Egyptians used during the Arab-Israeli wars.

ack-ack
iron block? is that more like Warsaw Pact or Tony Stark?
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: GScholz on March 05, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
They were originally Spanish, French and Czech.
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Bear76 on March 05, 2014, 11:44:30 PM
I think Panzer IV was the best looking tank during WWII.
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Heater on March 06, 2014, 02:02:46 PM
here is a link to one of the photos from FB....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=759610060716494&set=pcb.631927283510303&type=1&theater
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Arlo on March 06, 2014, 03:51:14 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/843x201q90/163/z8b5.png)
Title: Re: StuG III and Panzer IV found....
Post by: Heater on March 07, 2014, 06:22:05 AM
Sorry about the Link... it's a closed FB group called WWII pictures
there is a post about the tanks Syria left where the were hit in 1967 etc..
here are two of the photos...

(http://home.xmsnet.nl/heater/one.jpg)

(http://home.xmsnet.nl/heater/two.jpg)