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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Chris79 on March 08, 2014, 10:12:27 AM
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog Unleash an m3 with 10 of these into a camped spawn it may earn the wrath of PETA how ever
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Only if it runs under friendly tanks to.
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They also ended up blowing up their own tanks and not the German tanks. As long as they only attack gasoline powered tanks, I'm all for it.
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Yep the dogs learned that food came from under T-34s.
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Yep the dogs learned that food came from under T-34s.
Oh they knew what they were doing.
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The problem was that Soviet tanks, which they trained on, were diesel, while the German tanks ran on gasoline. So, they would release the dogs, and have them run right at their own tanks!
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The problem was that Soviet tanks, which they trained on, were diesel, while the German tanks ran on gasoline. So, they would release the dogs, and have them run right at their own tanks!
I knew it was something like that, I just couldn't remember which tank ran off of what.
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Both soviet and german tanks ran on diesel, only American tanks used gasoline hence the tommy cooker. If only the m4 would be modeled as such. If one didn't read history and just went of off aces high vehicle characteristics, you would think the m4 was actually a good tank instead of the bane of the u.s army. Alas however I find panthers easier to kill then m4's. Apologizes for the rant just put two 88's into the broad side of an m4 with little affect.
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all german tanks where driven on gasoline
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Both soviet and german tanks ran on diesel, only American tanks used gasoline hence the tommy cooker. If only the m4 would be modeled as such. If one didn't read history and just went of off aces high vehicle characteristics, you would think the m4 was actually a good tank instead of the bane of the u.s army. Alas however I find panthers easier to kill then m4's. Apologizes for the rant just put two 88's into the broad side of an m4 with little affect.
It is a myth that the M4 caught fire because of being fueled with gasoline. The tendency to catch fire was from stored ammunition detonating.
A Panther has much more armor than an M4. If you truly hit the broadside of an M4 that would be 31.8mm of armor VS a Panther's 50mm.
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Both soviet and german tanks ran on diesel, only American tanks used gasoline hence the tommy cooker. If only the m4 would be modeled as such. If one didn't read history and just went of off aces high vehicle characteristics, you would think the m4 was actually a good tank instead of the bane of the u.s army. Alas however I find panthers easier to kill then m4's. Apologizes for the rant just put two 88's into the broad side of an m4 with little affect.
There was no German tank in the war that ran on diesel. None.
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Just the Sd. Kfz. 234 series of armored cars.
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Yep, I thought the Sdkfz 9 may have but I checked and it was ran on gasoline too.
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Just the Sd. Kfz. 234 series of armored cars.
Not a tank.
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+1 only if u can put on noobs.
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Many soviet tanks ran on gas including the T-34. The T-34 had so many variations it is unreal. The most exotic power plant in a T-34. One that ran on coal dust.
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All soviet tanks produced from ~1939/40 on used Diesel engines.
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+1 on the condition that the "bat-bomb" ordnances package is added to the B29
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A Panther has much more armor than an M4. If you truly hit the broadside of an M4 that would be 31.8mm of armor VS a Panther's 50mm.<--- part of mk-84's statement.
you would think so,but my panther has been killed many times by an m4-with a 1 shot direct hit to front chassis--just like a panzer is not supposed to be able to kill a t-34-85 from 2k way while on the move.but i've done it several times.the panther has 4" amour on the front 2 on sides and rear...m4's actually kill panther's easier than panther can kill it. at least in this game.
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A Panther has much more armor than an M4. If you truly hit the broadside of an M4 that would be 31.8mm of armor VS a Panther's 50mm.<--- part of mk-84's statement.
you would think so,but my panther has been killed many times by an m4-with a 1 shot direct hit to front chassis--just like a panzer is not supposed to be able to kill a t-34-85 from 2k way while on the move.but i've done it several times.the panther has 4" amour on the front 2 on sides and rear...m4's actually kill panther's easier than panther can kill it. at least in this game.
are you aware of the panthers glass chin?
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are you aware of the panthers glass chin?
yeah i know,i've been a victom many times---probaby by you a few times lol :salute
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are you aware of the panthers glass chin?
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yes please do tell why my panthers take 1 shot at distances of 1.5+ in front quite often and poof...
And yes M4's seem to take a beating in AH, contrary to any story I've ever heard by US tankers.
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Look at the armor chart in game for the panther. under the front glacial plate is a large weak spot (the glass chin). its 50mm and i dont know the angle but it looks like 60 degrees. The panthers main front glacial plate is 80mm at "i think" almost a 45 degree angle.
the m4 76 can penetrate 115mm at 1k and 97mm at 2k. i hear (from the technical guys around here), that from 600 to 1k the m4 76 can penetrate the front hull except for a chin shot, but because of the angle the round comes in at ranges from 1+k to something like 1.6k or 2k it can penetrate the front 80mm plate. Anything past 1.6 or 2k (what ever the exact range is) the panther immune to penetration from the m4 76.
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Both upper and lower hull armor have the same 35 degree angle, upper hull is 80mm, lower hull is 60mm. I fail to see how anyone could hit the lower hull for a penetration except the mysterious bouncing round or you fire from below at a Panther exposing it's belly.
A turret front penetration outside of the gun mantlet may be possible or if a hit bounces off the lower gun mantlet onto the hull top armor.
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David Wales has returned :bolt:
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Both upper and lower hull armor have the same 35 degree angle, upper hull is 80mm, lower hull is 60mm. I fail to see how anyone could hit the lower hull for a penetration except the mysterious bouncing round or you fire from below at a Panther exposing it's belly.
A turret front penetration outside of the gun mantlet may be possible or if a hit bounces off the lower gun mantlet onto the hull top armor.
You are incorrect sir. The panther (a,d,g what ever we have. I think I heard A model) we have has only a 50mm chin and you can hit it without trouble until gravity drops the round's arc too much (like 1k ish).
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Every Panther produced had the same layout, 8 cm upper hull at 35 degrees (from horizontal, 55 from vertical), lower hull 6 cm with the same slope.
In a normal tank engagement on flat terrain you can't hit the lower hull, you need a projectile flying strait to this area but no other tank/afv fires from a position low enough to hit it reliably and with sufficient penetration power. That's why I mentioned a Panther exposing its belly (hull in upwards angle).
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Every Panther produced had the same layout, 8 cm upper hull at 35 degrees (from horizontal, 55 from vertical), lower hull 6 cm with the same slope.
In a normal tank engagement on flat terrain you can't hit the lower hull, you need a projectile flying strait to this area but no other tank/afv fires from a position low enough to hit it reliably and with sufficient penetration power. That's why I mentioned a Panther exposing its belly (hull in upwards angle).
Correction i think we have the G model and to save weight the lower hull armor was reduced from 60mm to 50mm and thats why in game if you look at the armor chart it says 50mm
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+1 on the condition that the "bat-bomb" ordnances package is added to the B29
+1 on the main topic and this idea. Should also add the V1 as an option for the 111 too.
:salute Coalcat1