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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ROC on March 08, 2014, 12:47:27 PM
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Just sayin :bhead
I don't drive the car, fit much better into the Mustang. Apparently, I fit much better under the Mustang also, the Porsche is a PITA to get under and the Air Oil Separator appears to be made for 45 pound pre-adolescent boys to reach. What the heck are they thinking squeezing those hoses that far up into a gap about the size of my now swollen left thumb??
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Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! ... Zhere is a kubik centimitre here zhat you haven't uzed for anyzhing!!! Redezgn it immediately!
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Your first problem is the Porsche.
The second problem is that you're actually working on one of those over-rated POS cars.
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Just sayin :bhead
I don't drive the car, fit much better into the Mustang. Apparently, I fit much better under the Mustang also, the Porsche is a PITA to get under and the Air Oil Separator appears to be made for 45 pound pre-adolescent boys to reach. What the heck are they thinking squeezing those hoses that far up into a gap about the size of my now swollen left thumb??
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Welcome to the world of assembly engineers!
It's been quite awhile since I played with any porsche's motors but I have a buddy who always said"it's easier to just drop the motor out!" :devil
Could be worse,you could have to loosen a motor mount just to change a single spark plug!
:salute
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BAH my Fahrvergnügen experience has only been with a VW, 1600 CC engine just grab it and lift it out , set it on the bench and wrench away..........
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Just sayin :bhead
I don't drive the car, fit much better into the Mustang. Apparently, I fit much better under the Mustang also, the Porsche is a PITA to get under and the Air Oil Separator appears to be made for 45 pound pre-adolescent boys to reach. What the heck are they thinking squeezing those hoses that far up into a gap about the size of my now swollen left thumb??
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I enjoy working on my buddy's 914. It is such a simple, well thought out design. The bonus is taking it out on the track.
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Hey Jay! I was at the Autorama Saturday. All I can say is wow.
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Hey Jay! I was at the Autorama Saturday. All I can say is wow.
Out of all them, it is the one one to go too. The Riddler Award. Next year we should meet up there.
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:rofl :rofl
Welcome to the world of assembly engineers!
It's been quite awhile since I played with any porsche's motors but I have a buddy who always said"it's easier to just drop the motor out!" :devil
Could be worse,you could have to loosen a motor mount just to change a single spark plug!
:salute
I was just about to say the same, better to drop the engine. A good opportunity to check the RMS/PMS and possibly service the clutch.
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Jay...sounds like a plan. When we plan the trip next year (3 bus loads) I'll let ya know. We will go from there via PM.
BTW 3 of us stopped by Cobo Joes and had lunch.....what a hoot!
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Off the Hijack.
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Even early VW Bug had a few 'tight places'...when my children were young frequently they'd be asked to 'help your over-sized-hand dad out". Oldest boy wrenched on his stryker in Iraq, now fixing Army helos. Daughter has no hesitation getting hands dirtyeither, altho she tends to change clothes, whereas I end up w/more wrenching appropriate pants/shirts. The youngest fixed my 87 325i verts AC...delightfully decadent to have vert w/icey AC :)
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Oh come on if they designed it for easy maintenance and repair what need would there be for Porsche Certified Mechanics, the technical school, and apprenticeship program?
Heuschrecke repair this Porsche without burning yourself, nor bleeding. Only then will you be ready.
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:rofl :rofl
Welcome to the world of assembly engineers!
It's been quite awhile since I played with any porsche's motors but I have a buddy who always said"it's easier to just drop the motor out!" :devil
Could be worse,you could have to loosen a motor mount just to change a single spark plug!
:salute
1975 Chevrolet Monza with the 4.3 liter V8. :bhead
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1975 Chevrolet Monza with the 4.3 liter V8. :bhead
Also Chevy Asto van had one plug in almost impossible location.
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Also Chevy Asto van had one plug in almost impossible location.
Was it the 3.8 front driver for chevs? There were many built that you had no choice but to reef the motor over on it's side to get the rear plug!
The astro was an easy fix,a bimetal hole saw made it so you only had trouble the first time you removed that darn plug!
:salute
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Poor guy. We feel for ya. :frown:
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Was it the 3.8 front driver for chevs? There were many built that you had no choice but to reef the motor over on it's side to get the rear plug!
The astro was an easy fix,a bimetal hole saw made it so you only had trouble the first time you removed that darn plug!
:salute
My parents had an all wheel drive EXT LT 8-seater version. The rear plug gave great grief. The engine was ruined by the mechanic, he installed a wrong type of spark plug that was too long. 2000 bucks later the engine was still knocking and ate gas like nuts. Finally electrical problems forced us to let the car go. We all loved the van if we overlook the heavy fuel consumption (gas is 8,9 USD/gallon down here).
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Have to remove the compressor on the v12 xjs to get to two of the plugs. Also have to remove the rear end to do the back brakes.
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Ahhh, remember the old Impalas you had to either remove the passenger fender or cut a hole through the steel wheel liner, in order to replace the heater core.
Or how about the 69/70 Shelby GT500 and changing the driver side rear spark plugs? Yes, unbolt motor mount and jack up engine.
The good ole days. :)
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One thing about toying with cars is that something else will come along to make the hard part look easy.
Swapped out the oil separator after some creative new yoga poses. Cleaning out the intake, throttle body and the rest of the intake system of oil that blew by the failed part makes the AOS seem like it was too easy :)
You'd think they would learn after years of customer complaints about making the simple things in life far more complicated than it needs to be. I've got a new Ford Escape. Easy job to tune it up. Small little issue when it came to what has always been a very simple task of swapping out the pcv valve. Not on the valve cover? Noooo, let's put the stupid thing under the exhaust manifold. The parts guy just grinned when I picked up the parts and asked what the heck they were thinking :headscratch:
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If you've never serviced a Sunbeam Tiger (260 ci or 289 ci), you have never experienced true frustration.
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Ahhh, remember the old Impalas you had to either remove the passenger fender or cut a hole through the steel wheel liner, in order to replace the heater core.
Or how about the 69/70 Shelby GT500 and changing the driver side rear spark plugs? Yes, unbolt motor mount and jack up engine.
The good ole days. :)
The Tiger is worse... Much worse.
Also, GM has not forgotten the old days. A co-worker has a 2010 Malibu. He needed to replace a headlight bulb. Here's the process.....
1. Open the hood and remove the plastic cover above the radiator (14 screws).
2. Jack up the car and remove the wheel (five lug nuts).
3. Remove the wheel-well liner (15 screws and pop-rivets).
4. This exposes two bolts that hold the bumper in place; remove these bolts and slide off the end of the bumper.
5. Now, you can reach the three bolts that hold in the headlight assembly; remove the headlight assembly and replace the bulb.
6. Replace everything (29 screws, nuts, bolts, and pop-rivets).
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I had forgotten about the Tiger. My neighbor had one of those with a 289 in it. Whoa!
Oh, I am sure there are many of those kinds of problems with cars. I am over them. Just going to build my own and move along.
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I never worked on a tiger but heard lots of cursing from the mech who worked on the one that came into the shop!
Roy,which motor was in the shelby that needed the motor mount trick? Oh and did you have to remove the montycarlo bars when you did this?
My Dad had a MkIII conti with the 460 in it,as big as that boat was there were many tight places in the engine compartment,even if you could hide a VW under it! :rofl
:salute
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I never worked on a tiger but heard lots of cursing from the mech who worked on the one that came into the shop!
Roy,which motor was in the shelby that needed the motor mount trick? Oh and did you have to remove the montycarlo bars when you did this?
My Dad had a MkIII conti with the 460 in it,as big as that boat was there were many tight places in the engine compartment,even if you could hide a VW under it! :rofl
:salute
The Tiger has the V8 stuffed so far back that the rear spark plugs are inaccessible. To get to them, you have to remove the driveshaft. Then, unbolt the rear tanny crossmember. Then you have to remove the boot from the gearshift. Now, you have to pull down on the transmission, to pivot the motor on the mounts. Once you have it low enough, you shove a wood block in place to keep it there. Still, you need a ratchet with a 3" extension and two universal joints to get the old plugs out. To get new ones in, you must push some rubber tubing over the spark plug, and carefully try to get the new plug to thread correctly. Can't afford to cross-thread either of them. Once you get the plugs threaded in, reverse all previous instructions. Takes several hours, if you're lucky. Now remember, back in the 60s, there was no such thing as 100,000 mile platinum spark plugs. You changed them every major tune-up, which was about every 12,000 miles.
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And I was cursing at a rusted in place wheel bearing hub assembly on my Silverado...
At no point in those steps do fire and big hammers make an appearance. I should feel fortunate.