Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Hoplite on March 11, 2014, 01:19:39 PM

Title: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Hoplite on March 11, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
Hi all.

I am in the process of refurbishing an Elite Throttle Quadrant I picked up on eBay for uber cheap and need some advice.  Here is a generic picture of the unit:

(http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/attachment.php?attachmentid=137715&d=1353490409)

As part of refurbishing the quadrant electronics I also plan to spray paint the body prior to reassembling the unit as the old paint is rather faded.  Pretty cut and dry, I've repainted metal surfaces before....but I'd really like to either preserve the existing labels painted on the throttle or create painting masks so I could apply my own.  

Anyone have experience with this? I've not had much success with Google and I am assuming that repainting will be the better option.   I also assume I'd use software to create the stencil, print it out, cut out the letters and tape the masks down on the surface.  What software should I use?  Is there a specific type of paper out there I should use to do this?

I know this isn't a crafts and hobby forum..but I figured enough geeks are on here that someones has to have done something like this before.  :)

Thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: BluBerry on March 11, 2014, 02:49:27 PM
didn't know people still used ebay
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: ReVo on March 11, 2014, 03:03:42 PM
Hi all.

I am in the process of refurbishing an Elite Throttle Quadrant I picked up on eBay for uber cheap and need some advice.  Here is a generic picture of the unit:

(http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/attachment.php?attachmentid=137715&d=1353490409)

As part of refurbishing the quadrant electronics I also plan to spray paint the body prior to reassembling the unit as the old paint is rather faded.  Pretty cut and dry, I've repainted metal surfaces before....but I'd really like to either preserve the existing labels painted on the throttle or create painting masks so I could apply my own. 

Anyone have experience with this? I've not had much success with Google and I am assuming that repainting will be the better option.   I also assume I'd use software to create the stencil, print it out, cut out the letters and tape the masks down on the surface.  What software should I use?  Is there a specific type of paper out there I should use to do this?

I know this isn't a crafts and hobby forum..but I figured enough geeks are on here someones done this type of work before.  :)

Thanks in advance...

You could probably purchase a stencil kit that would closely match the lettering on the throttle. Might not 100% match but probably much easier then any other option.

On a slightly related note. You wouldn't happen to have a decent throttle you would like to let go of?
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: tmetal on March 11, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
You might also consider the rub on style of decal lettering, you can pick that stuff up at just about any hobby or craft store. Paint white over the existing letters, lay down the rub on letters as desired, then paint the whole thing black, once the black is dry peel up the rub on letters to expose the white underneath.

Good luck with the project  :cheers:
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Nefarious on March 11, 2014, 04:56:33 PM
You could get some vinyl letters cut... or peel and stick.would be even cheaper.
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Hoplite on March 11, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
You could probably purchase a stencil kit that would closely match the lettering on the throttle. Might not 100% match but probably much easier then any other option.

On a slightly related note. You wouldn't happen to have a decent throttle you would like to let go of?

Thanks man.  And unfortunately my last quadrant went kaput. ...
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: mechanic on March 11, 2014, 06:32:11 PM
don't know if you guys across the pond have this stuff

(http://www.stepchangemarketing.com/media/6003/blu_tack_615x516.jpg)

but if not I imagine you have something similar for sticking photos on walls and stuff.

cover all the letters with that stuff then peel 'em off and hey presto

The other easy option is to get some thin paper, trace the letters then cut them out with a craft knife. Spray the whole thing then respray the letters with your stencil
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: homersipes on March 11, 2014, 06:47:44 PM
Quote
You might also consider the rub on style of decal lettering, you can pick that stuff up at just about any hobby or craft store. Paint white over the existing letters, lay down the rub on letters as desired, then paint the whole thing black, once the black is dry peel up the rub on letters to expose the white underneath.
this +1, I have used this technique several times before and it works great as long as you start with the lighter color first  :old: otherwise it takes lots of coats to cover dark colors.  I am not much of a painter but have managed to spraybomb several motorcycle gas tanks, just using masking tape to cover then cut out the design.
(http://s755.photobucket.com/albums/xx199/homersipes/scan0003.jpg)
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: TopGear on March 11, 2014, 09:09:59 PM
Take a good picture with a measurement and bring it in to a graphic design shop that deals with vinyl decals.  Better yet would be to bring the unit in and let them do it.  They can print cut decals to match exactly what you have.
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Hoplite on March 12, 2014, 04:50:33 AM
Quote from: ReVo

On a slightly related note. You wouldn't happen to have a decent throttle you would like to let go of?

FYI...if you want something relatively inexpensive...

http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Three-Throttle-Quadrant-PZ45/dp/B000TCEU4Q (http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Three-Throttle-Quadrant-PZ45/dp/B000TCEU4Q)

Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: ReVo on March 12, 2014, 05:24:55 AM
FYI...if you want something relatively inexpensive...

http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Three-Throttle-Quadrant-PZ45/dp/B000TCEU4Q (http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Three-Throttle-Quadrant-PZ45/dp/B000TCEU4Q)



I have one actually. I can't stand it.  :lol

I really wish I could find something closer to the Cougar throttle without having to buy the stick with it.
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Nefarious on March 12, 2014, 06:15:51 AM
Take a good picture with a measurement and bring it in to a graphic design shop that deals with vinyl decals.  Better yet would be to bring the unit in and let them do it.  They can print cut decals to match exactly what you have.


This. We need the work. They dont call us starving artists for nothing.
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Hoplite on March 12, 2014, 07:45:10 AM
I have one actually. I can't stand it.  :lol

I really wish I could find something closer to the Cougar throttle without having to buy the stick with it.

 :lol Yeah...I said inexpensive...I should have said "cheap".  Saitek is crap IMHO but it gets the job done some of the time.

The VKB team produced this stand-alone throttle in partnership with a Chinese company:

(http://www.3ona51.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/gametrix-ecs-25.jpg)

It's not generally available in the US but you might be able to find it if you search around on some of the Asian online marketplaces....

Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Hoplite on March 12, 2014, 07:46:14 AM
Take a good picture with a measurement and bring it in to a graphic design shop that deals with vinyl decals.  Better yet would be to bring the unit in and let them do it.  They can print cut decals to match exactly what you have.

Thanks TopGear....good idea!  I think this is the approach I will take.  I'm too much a nitpick of my own work to ever get this to work right myself.   :)
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: cpxxx on March 12, 2014, 08:17:41 AM
There is a simple technique now that all of have our own colour printers. Simply buy a few sheets of blank clear decals as used by modellers. Either make up your own labels or copy them from somewhere on the net and simply print them onto the decal sheets. Cut them out and apply. Alternatively use clear self adhesive sheets. Although I would think decals might look a bit more professional and last longer particularly if you varnish over the decals.

It's very inexpensive. Here's a link which I googled just now. I'm sure there's others:

http://www.micromark.com/Decal-Paper-Try-It-Pack-for-Laser-Printers-and-Copiers,9056.html
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: tmetal on March 12, 2014, 11:35:56 AM
There is a simple technique now that all of have our own colour printers. Simply buy a few sheets of blank clear decals as used by modellers. Either make up your own labels or copy them from somewhere on the net and simply print them onto the decal sheets. Cut them out and apply. Alternatively use clear self adhesive sheets. Although I would think decals might look a bit more professional and last longer particularly if you varnish over the decals.

It's very inexpensive. Here's a link which I googled just now. I'm sure there's others:

http://www.micromark.com/Decal-Paper-Try-It-Pack-for-Laser-Printers-and-Copiers,9056.html

Totally forgot about this method. I've used it to put some custom decals on a few of my RC planes; it does work well.
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: Hoplite on March 12, 2014, 11:38:52 AM
Thanks all!  Great ideas!   So many I now I don't know which one to choose!   :headscratch:  :lol  :aok

Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: phatzo on March 13, 2014, 12:32:13 AM
You could get some vinyl letters cut... or peel and stick.would be even cheaper.
or use the weed as a stencil and airbrush it. (Weed is the stuff you usually throw away when you cut vinyl lettering)
Title: Re: Paint Masking Techniques for Painting Labels
Post by: BluBerry on March 13, 2014, 12:58:00 AM
Weed is the stuff you usually throw away when you cut vinyl lettering



Blasphemer!  :old: