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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mano on March 21, 2014, 01:12:13 AM
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This is the best mousetrap You will ever use. 5 gal bucket with a gallon of RV antifreeze dumped in the bottom, plastic bottle with a coat hanger through it and some peanut butter on the middle of the bottle.
Lean a board up against the side and it works all year without checking it and no smell.
(http://boudicabpi.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/redneckmousetrap.gif)
:D
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I use the same type of thing at my hangar, although mine has a steel coffee can on a steel rod. It's helped me prevent quite a few of the little bastards from setting up shop over the years.
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Poor ickle mousey :cry
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What an emberrasing way to die.
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I bet we could set one of those outside the welfare office and get the same results. Of course, we'd have to build it a bit bigger and use EBT cards instead of peanut butter. Oh, I'd not use antifreeze either. I'd fill the bottom with job applications though that may have the same effect as anti-freeze.
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Call me worthless and weak but I felt bad for the mouse.
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the fact they fall into anti freeze to drown in poison is pretty effed up. Why not let them fall into an empty pot they cannot escape from and dispose of them in another way.
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I bet we could set one of those outside the welfare office and get the same results. Of course, we'd have to build it a bit bigger and use EBT cards instead of peanut butter. Oh, I'd not use antifreeze either. I'd fill the bottom with job applications though that may have the same effect as anti-freeze.
dont forget the WIC chips
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Wy waste good antifreeze. Just use water and drown the little rat basterds.
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Wy waste good antifreeze. Just use water and drown the little rat basterds.
Why waste good water just letem starve to death
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Cut and hole in the bottom side of the bucket so they can do it over and over :D
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the fact they fall into anti freeze to drown in poison is pretty effed up. Why not let them fall into an empty pot they cannot escape from and dispose of them in another way.
Agreed, that's pretty needlessly cruel. If you're going to use a kill trap, use one that's more likely to be an instant kill (IE the classing spring traps).
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Agreed, that's pretty needlessly cruel. If you're going to use a kill trap, use one that's more likely to be an instant kill (IE the classing spring traps).
+1
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Agreed, that's pretty needlessly cruel. If you're going to use a kill trap, use one that's more likely to be an instant kill (IE the classing spring traps).
I think the idea behind this type of trap is that you don't have to check it and reset it. I'm not saying I am in favor of it, but I understand the reasoning.
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I think the idea behind this type of trap is that you don't have to check it and reset it
exactly correct sir :aok this works well when there are LOTS of mice, my friends dads farm uses this setup and catches hundreds of mice a week, he also has 2 55 gallon drums welded together top to bottom and uses it to catch raccoons, when he catches raccoons, he uses a .22 to kill them, the barrels are empty and he checks this one daily. I have used this setup to catch fishbait too, with the bucket being empty.
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I bet we could set one of those outside the welfare office and get the same results. Of course, we'd have to build it a bit bigger and use EBT cards instead of peanut butter. Oh, I'd not use antifreeze either. I'd fill the bottom with job applications though that may have the same effect as anti-freeze
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Antifreeze is a bad idea.
Not only will it kill mice and rats, it'll kill anything else that drinks it. Dogs, cats, rabbits, squirrels, etc, etc, etc...
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That's a good one. Used something similar in my barn.
Right now I just have bait blocks in little wooden houses with holes that only mice and red squirrels fit through.
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When I was a kid, we had some scumbag neighbors who wouldn't stop their dog from peeing on our shrubs, killing the plants. My Dad asked nicely. It didn't stop.
solution: one piece of chicken wire on the ground, one piece on the shrub, one modified extension cord.
Only had to leave it out for a few mornings. It never happened again and the dog was fine.
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Sombody say nut?!
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the fact they fall into anti freeze to drown in poison is pretty effed up. Why not let them fall into an empty pot they cannot escape from and dispose of them in another way.
Cause they are mice. Aint exactly on the endangered species list
And according to the CDC
Diseases directly transmitted by rodents
Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome
Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome
Lassa Fever
Leptospirosis
Lymphocytic Chorio-meningitis (LCM)
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Plague
Rat-Bite Fever
Salmonellosis
South American Arenaviruses (Argentine hemorrhagic fever, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, Sabiá-associated hemorrhagic fever, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever)
Tularemia
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Why waste good water just letem starve to death
Only the first one would starve. every one thereafter would simply feed on the previous
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Cause they are mice. Aint exactly on the endangered species list
And according to the CDC
Diseases directly transmitted by rodents
Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome
Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome
Lassa Fever
Leptospirosis
Lymphocytic Chorio-meningitis (LCM)
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Plague
Rat-Bite Fever
Salmonellosis
South American Arenaviruses (Argentine hemorrhagic fever, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, Sabiá-associated hemorrhagic fever, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever)
Tularemia
That doesn't mean they have to be subjected to death-by-antifreeze. If you don't want to use live traps to release them elsewhere away from your home, that's fine. But that doesn't mean you can't use a humane kill trap instead.
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the fact they fall into anti freeze to drown in poison is pretty effed up. Why not let them fall into an empty pot they cannot escape from and dispose of them in another way.
Agreed, seems cruel.
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well this is no more cruel than the sticky traps, in fact IMHO sticky traps are far mor in humane than this, nor any different than rat poison, which basically dries them up inside to outside. Just sayin
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Agreed, seems cruel.
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This is the best mousetrap You will ever use. 5 gal bucket with a gallon of RV antifreeze dumped in the bottom, plastic bottle with a coat hanger through it and some peanut butter on the middle of the bottle.
Lean a board up against the side and it works all year without checking it and no smell.
(http://boudicabpi.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/redneckmousetrap.gif)
:D
That's awesome :aok
I will have to remember that the next winter when all the mice start coming up to the houses.
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Cause they are mice. Aint exactly on the endangered species list
And according to the CDC
Diseases directly transmitted by rodents
Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome
Hemorrhagic Fever with Renal Syndrome
Lassa Fever
Leptospirosis
Lymphocytic Chorio-meningitis (LCM)
Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Plague
Rat-Bite Fever
Salmonellosis
South American Arenaviruses (Argentine hemorrhagic fever, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, Sabiá-associated hemorrhagic fever, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever)
Tularemia
Human Beings
Responsible for
Murder
Mass Murder
Burning
Bombing
Raping
Child Abuse
Theft
AIDS
Mesothelioma
Terrorism
Religiously motivated genital mutilation
Just Saying
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Human Beings
Responsible for
Murder
Mass Murder
Burning
Bombing
Raping
Child Abuse
Theft
AIDS
Mesothelioma
Terrorism
Religiously motivated genital mutilation
Just Saying
and all can be prevented by making the culprits drink anti-freeze. Right?
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and all can be prevented by making the culprits drink anti-freeze. Right?
Mostly yes, I suppose. Haven't tried it myself, though, neither don't know anyone who has, but somehow I believe very few people would be capable to do such things after drinking a bottle of anti-freeze. Unless, of course, they act before the substance takes effect in their body. :old:
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and all can be prevented by making the culprits drink anti-freeze. Right?
Good point :rofl
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It's a mouse/rat people. kill it anyway you see fit.
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the fact they fall into anti freeze to drown in poison is pretty effed up. Why not let them fall into an empty pot they cannot escape from and dispose of them in another way.
+1 Very cruel...
Coogan
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Barn cats work pretty good and no cleanup needed.
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that's a poison.. should not leave that out and about...
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That doesn't mean they have to be subjected to death-by-antifreeze. If you don't want to use live traps to release them elsewhere away from your home, that's fine. But that doesn't mean you can't use a humane kill trap instead.
regardless of how you kill them. Would they be any less dead one way over the other.
Its a rat. Rats spread diseases which are often unkind to humans. Add to that they breed like...well rats.
Just like worms on a fish hook I really couldnt care less how they feel when they die. Just that they die.
I killed one in my house years ago by pouring a pot of boiling coffee one one I found in my kitchen sink. I'd have smashed it with a club instead but the hot coffee was all I had handy. In the end I really didnt care how it died just THAT it died. I was more bothered by having to wait for another pot of coffee to finish percolating (anyone remember these?)
(http://www.howtobrewcoffee.com/images/overview/percolator.jpg)
Then that or how I just killed a rat
Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues
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Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues
apparently the douchification of the nation continues as well.
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Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues
Who the hell are you calling "kid?" And I pity you if you think not wanting to see any animal suffer needlessly is a sign of "feminisation."
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I use these traps and have for a very long time. Do I enjoy the thought of a rodent suffering, no, absolutely not. It is a point of using something that really works and does not need constant resetting. The point of the anti-freeze is to eliminate the smell of their rancid little bodies.
I use it in a hangar, it is what it is, but I'd rather not have to worry about mice nesting in my aircraft and causing issues such as: eating the wiring harnesses, throwing off weight and balance by packing areas full of crap for nests, urinating and defecating all over the aircraft which causes corrosion, as well as making a general mess everywhere else. Face it, they are mice and sadly, there is not much else that really works like this.
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Only the first one would starve. every one thereafter would simply feed on the previous
Skyfall anyone?
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Im playing for rats and mice. Forgive the size.(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/smallviolin_zps4ea3febe.jpg)
On that same list I'll put raccoons and skunks, possums, insects....ect I dont care how they die as long as they do.
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regardless of how you kill them. Would they be any less dead one way over the other.
Its a rat. Rats spread diseases which are often unkind to humans. Add to that they breed like...well rats.
Just like worms on a fish hook I really couldnt care less how they feel when they die. Just that they die.
I killed one in my house years ago by pouring a pot of boiling coffee one one I found in my kitchen sink. I'd have smashed it with a club instead but the hot coffee was all I had handy. In the end I really didnt care how it died just THAT it died. I was more bothered by having to wait for another pot of coffee to finish percolating (anyone remember these?)
(http://www.howtobrewcoffee.com/images/overview/percolator.jpg)
Then that or how I just killed a rat
Damn kids. The feminisation of the nation continues
I have no problem with killing of vermin. Whether it be insect mammal or people. But whether you did what you claim out of malevolence, or ambivalence, or whether you simply made it up to, in your mind, sound tougher to your percieved piers on a chatroom, nothing and no one deserve to die in terror and abject pain if it can be possibly helped.
I find your post abhorrent.
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I have no problem with killing of vermin. Whether it be insect mammal or people. But whether you did what you claim out of malevolence, or ambivalence, or whether you simply made it up to, in your mind, sound tougher to your percieved piers on a chatroom, nothing and no one deserve to die in terror and abject pain if it can be possibly helped.
I find your post abhorrent.
I have to agree with this. I know killing them in antifreeze isnt the most humane way to kill them, they proably drown before they die of being poisoned. I dont like poison and most certainly dont like sticky traps. When we bought our house the previous owner used dcon all over the place, I took it all out as much as I could find and flushed it down toilet. There still must be some someplace because we still get an occasional dead mouse stink where they must have died in the wall or someplace. The point of the anti-freeze is to eliminate the smell of their rancid little bodies.
this I did not know. I just dont see how this trap is any different than placing dcon out, or any other rat poison. :headscratch: :headscratch:
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Why use antifreeze when you can use the dip.
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120427013154/disney/images/e/e7/Toon_Shoe.png)
Good Idea, thanks for sharing.
The traditional term for men who feel bad for trapping, drowning, and deodorizing mice in a pink pool of propylene glycol is "Ladyboys". But the new generation calls them "sensitive".
From MSDS of high strength RV antifreeze.
http://images.peakauto.com/Peak%20RV%20marine%20AF%20-100%20Rev%202.pdf11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Skin: The LD50 for skin absorption in rabbits is >10,000 mg/kg.
Ingestion: The oral LD50 for rats is 20,000-34,000 mg/kg.
Mutagenicity: In vitro mutagenicity studies were negative. Animal mutagenicity studies were negative.
12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Movement & Partitioning: Based largely or completely on information for similar material(s), i.e., propylene glycol. Bioconcentration potential is low (BCF less than 100 or Log Pow less than 3). Log octanol / water partition coefficient (log Pow) is –0.92. Henry Law Constant (H) is 1.2E-8 atm.m3/mole.
Degradation & Transformation: Based largely or completely on information for similar material(s) i.e., propylene glycol. Biodegradation under aerobic static laboratory conditions is high (BOD20 OR BOD28/Th0D greater than 40%). Biodegradation is expected to be achievable in a secondary wastewater treatment plant. 5-day biochemical oxygen demand (B0D5) is 1.16 p/p. 200-day biochemical oxygen demand (B0D20) is 1.45 p/p. theoretical oxygen demand (TH0D) is calculated to be 1.68 p/p. Inhibitory concentration (IC5O) in OECD Activated Sludge Respiration Inhibition Test (OECD Test No. 209) is greater than 1 gm/L. Degradation is expected in the atmospheric environment within minutes to hours.
Ecotoxicology: Based largely or completely on information for similar material (s), i.e., propylene glycol. Material is practically non-toxic to aquatic organisms on an acute basis (LC50 greater than 100 mg/L in most sensitive species).
Acute LC50 for fathead minnow (Pimephales promelas) is 4,600-54900 mg/L
Acute LC50 for guppy (Poecilia reticulata) is greater than 10000 mg/L.
Acute LC50 for water flea Daphnia magna is 4850-34400 mg/L
Acute LC50 for rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) is 44mL/L (about 44000 mg/L)
So... 20-34 grams of product per kg of body weight to kill half a rat population. thats 2-3% of a mouses body weight to die. I would need to drink about half a gallon of antifreeze to have a 50% chance of death. Also, the product degrades readily enough that we can dump it down the drain or on our garden.
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I don't really like the idea that the mice will suffer but I am a little tired of worrying about hantavirus when I am poking around in my workshop.
I am building one
Sorry mice, you lose.
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Why use antifreeze when you can use the dip.
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120427013154/disney/images/e/e7/Toon_Shoe.png)
The traditional term for men who feel bad for trapping, drowning, and deodorizing mice in a pink pool of propylene glycol is "Ladyboys". But the new generation calls them "sensitive".
The traditional term for the killing of anything in an unneccessary cruel and unusual manner is "inhumane".
That some apparently consider the fact that it is somehow a demonstration of the epic proportions of their manhoods, to find brutal methods to exterminate what is effectively a living creature with the capacity for fear and to experience pain, beggars the imagination.
These creatures need controlling? Absolutely.
Do they need to suffer a vile demise? Absolutely not, especially considering one of the arguments was that the person setting the trap can't be right arsed to empty more humane ones. :bhead
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I have no problem with killing of vermin. Whether it be insect mammal or people. But whether you did what you claim out of malevolence, or ambivalence, or whether you simply made it up to, in your mind, sound tougher to your percieved piers on a chatroom, nothing and no one deserve to die in terror and abject pain if it can be possibly helped.
I find your post abhorrent.
And I...Simply dont care
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And I...Simply dont care
That is sad for you.
Through out all time a true hunter or warrior always has had remorse and respect for the necessary death he inflicts.
To simply not care about the suffering of life forms more vulnerable than yourself doesn't make you a man, just a monster.
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Humane killing of mice
Chopping - Ok
Exploding -Ok
smashing - Ok
Throwing off of your porch onto the cement - Ok
Thowing off a cliff with a 10 second free fall - ahhh Ok
Dipping in full strength HCl - Bad
Thowing overboard in the middle of the ocean - Bad
Spinning wheel o death by drowning in slightly toxic liquid- Bad
Testing latest ED drug - Bad but necessary so we call this martyrdom
Releasing three cats in the neighborhood to kill by defleshing or blunt force submission - Bad but its Organic so Ok
Trapping in a inescapable container to starvation- Bad
Trapping in a inescapable container and exploding with 100 Black cat fireworks within a 2 hour window of being caught on the great day sacrificial acceptance- Ok
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl ^^^^^^
So we are feeling bad for mice now.... :rofl
Lets see...Did mice help spread the plague?....Yes
Do mice spread contractible diseases?....Yes
Do mice spread urine and feces all over ones house?....Yes
Are mice despicable little creatures that need to be killed and their populations kept in check by any means necessary, without regard for wondering how they feel before they die, a hopefully swift and violent death?...Hell Yes
Now I am a very humane person...I don't like to see anything suffer...especially anything I am trying to kill...but by saying dude is a monster because he poured coffee on a rat to kill it :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I smash mice with my water meter tool every month...I go for the head...sometimes when I open a meter can and I don't have my violent meter tool of death, I have to use my channel lock pliers to smash their heads...either way I'm not getting the freakin hanta virus or any other kind of nasty disease the vermin can carry...
I have no remorse for killing rats...and if someone does, I promise, you wouldn't make it trying to live in the country...Probably the same type of people that call an exterminator to get rid of piss ants... :rofl :rofl :rofl
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl ^^^^^^
So we are feeling bad for mice now.... :rofl
Lets see...Did mice help spread the plague?....Yes
Do mice spread contractible diseases?....Yes
Do mice spread urine and feces all over ones house?....Yes
Are mice despicable little creatures that need to be killed and their populations kept in check by any means necessary, without regard for wondering how they feel before they die, a hopefully swift and violent death?...Hell Yes
Now I am a very humane person...I don't like to see anything suffer...especially anything I am trying to kill...but by saying dude is a monster because he poured coffee on a rat to kill it :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I smash mice with my water meter tool every month...I go for the head...sometimes when I open a meter can and I don't have my violent meter tool of death, I have to use my channel lock pliers to smash their heads...either way I'm not getting the freakin hanta virus or any other kind of nasty disease the vermin can carry...
I have no remorse for killing rats...and if someone does, I promise, you wouldn't make it trying to live in the country...Probably the same type of people that call an exterminator to get rid of piss ants... :rofl :rofl :rofl
I've lived in the country my entire life, my grandfather was a shepherd, my father and his brothers poached for enough to eat when they were kids.I have served my country and have made sure the other guy has gone down so that I get home. As a part of my job I routinely have to kill birds, almost on a daily basis, I also have to kill mice/rats and a variety of other vermin, when I do so I make sure it's with a single blow, or neck dislocation. Scalding something to death for no other reason than you feel like it would be intersting is below contempt.
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Grew up on a farm. Had to kill many animals. Mice, rats, chickens, roosters (they go rogue from time to time), possums, raccoons, and so forth.
Never saw any reason to do it in an inhumane way. Of course, time was of the essence anyway, so doing things quickly meant we had more time to relax at the end of the day.
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Grew up on a farm. Had to kill many animals. Mice, rats, chickens, roosters (they go rogue from time to time), possums, raccoons, and so forth.
Never saw any reason to do it in an inhumane way. Of course, time was of the essence anyway, so doing things quickly meant we had more time to relax at the end of the day.
:lol One of my roosters is starting to go rogue...keeps trying to kill my little chickens...he might have a date with a pot of Folders...I can't stand cheap coffee... :D
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The problem I have is that I don't get out to my property but once a week at most, and it's out in a rural desert area with lot's of desert mice and hantavirus is a real concern in Arizona.
I am open to suggestions of some "humane" way for me to control the mice without having dangerous decomposing rodent bodies stinking up the place when I return in a week?
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:lol One of my roosters is starting to go rogue...keeps trying to kill my little chickens...he might have a date with a pot of Folders...I can't stand cheap coffee... :D
You could put both his eyes out and douse him in petrol then light it. After all it'll be fun to watch and who cares how it dies? :aok
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trapping a mouse to drown is now compareable to mutilation and torture for sport? :rolleyes:
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Death is sometimes necessary, cruelty is never necessary.
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The problem I have is that I don't get out to my property but once a week at most, and it's out in a rural desert area with lot's of desert mice and hantavirus is a real concern in Arizona.
I am open to suggestions of some "humane" way for me to control the mice without having dangerous decomposing rodent bodies stinking up the place when I return in a week?
Catch em and send em to Drediock n NatCigg, they can jerk each other while torturing them.
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My mother inlaw used to have a horse ranch,she kept those hayburning arabs!
One day she finds a groundhog in the ridding padock and thinks it's rabid. With good reason as it wasnt afraid of her or the horses. So she calls animal control to see if someone will come take care of it.
They ask her if she has a gun,yes she had a 22 and they tell her to just shoot it. She tells them "Oh I could never do that" and then they tell her that no one can come out to her place as it's not in their area.
So she sees the animal is now chasing after a horse,her horse and she gets a Tbar,the type used in fencing and clubs the groundhog over the head! She then calls me to come look after it for her,when I get there I see a groundhog with a bashed it head and a bloddy Tbar and ask her why the heck she didnt shoot it,I got the same answer....Oh I couldnt do that.... :rofl :rofl
I said to her well then how did you manage to kill it then,I whacked it with the post,it was going after my horses...... :rofl
:salute
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I have no desire to inflict pain and suffering but if I set back breaker traps and then come back a week later it's going to be a toxic mess.
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Working in an agricultural warehouse that had nothing but soybeans and/or wheat in it at all times, mice were our biggest nuisance. The seed was packaged in large bulk bags and/or 1 unit paper bags (commonly misconception that it's a 50 lb bag). The other seed companies and, mainly, Monsanto required that the bags did not have any holes in them and were for the most part clean. Mice would run around the the pallets and chew multiple holes in the tops of bulk bags, have a soybean smorgasbord, and build their nests in the pallets. This would not only expose us to the mice and their feces, it would also require us to re-bag the seed. Now, it's hard to keep mice out of a 40+ year old warehouse (that's 100,000 sq/ft). Not only do we have poison spread out about every 20ft on the walls, we also have the poison boxes at the base of every other support pole, AND we place tracking powder on the floor around every lot of seed. Yet, with all these preventatives, we still fight the mice :bhead
I say kill them all and stomp the nest in any way possible. :devil
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I avoid cruelty if i can cause I dont enjoy it. But Im not going to tolerate mice running around and I set sticky traps for them. I cant imagine thats a very pleasant way to die If I dont find them in time and smash their heads in with a hammer.
I live in a wretched city so I have too put up with coons, possums, skunks, and what not. Let me find them out on the farms I hunt and they are dead in short order. And I dont hold prayer sessions for them afterwards. They are all destructive pests.
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Honestly I have no issue with any of this. Kill'em all for all I care, just kill them in a way that causes minimal suffering. This shouldn't be a debate. And as for slowly scalding things to death Dredlock. grow up .Nobody thinks this makes you sound tough son.
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Honestly I have no issue with any of this. Kill'em all for all I care, just kill them in a way that causes minimal suffering. This shouldn't be a debate. And as for slowly scalding things to death Dredlock. grow up .Nobody thinks this makes you sound tough son.
When the hell did I say I "slowly" scalded it to death?. Those suckers run around. There is no way I could have "slowly" scalded it to death.
And again. I couldnt care less how tough or untough you or anyone else thinks I am.
What I AM saying is I dont give a damn how a rat dies
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I've lived in the country my entire life, my grandfather was a shepherd, my father and his brothers poached for enough to eat when they were kids.I have served my country and have made sure the other guy has gone down so that I get home. As a part of my job I routinely have to kill birds, almost on a daily basis, I also have to kill mice/rats and a variety of other vermin, when I do so I make sure it's with a single blow, or neck dislocation. Scalding something to death for no other reason than you feel like it would be intersting is below contempt.
Idiot. I scalded it to death because the hot coffee was as I stated what I had handy. Perhaps you should consider a reading comprehension course.
I'd have asked it to stay put while I went and gotten a club. but somehow since it had spotted me already I dont think it would have listened.
Besides that even if I had and managed to smash it to death then I'd have rat innards to clean up. Which I am quite glad I didnt have to do. Nor did I have to worry about playing hide and seek had it escaped.
In the end I really dont care how a rat dies in my home though. So long as it dies.
Speaking of humane. Ever see an animal die from rat poison? Or how humane really are those sticky traps?
Gimme a break
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I love animals.....absolutely.
a rat/mouse needs to be killed as fast and efficiently as possible....anything handy(for all the reason previously stated).
now if you are raising said rats/mice and killing them for your pleasure....thats an issue....THAT is "inhumane"
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Mice don't die of old age, and many of the ways they die in the wild are far more traumatic than drowning (which btw, they also do in the wild)...
Anyway, I think this is fitting;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcSBO8YAnTQ
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Mice don't die of old age, and many of the ways they die in the wild are far more traumatic than drowning (which btw, they also do in the wild)...
Anyway, I think this is fitting;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcSBO8YAnTQ
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You could put both his eyes out and douse him in petrol then light it. After all it'll be fun to watch and who cares how it dies? :aok
You've been watching Japanese cooking shows.
Seriously, if this is a remote place that needs to be kept vermin free but can't be checked every bloody day, I don't have see the problem with it. "My species wins."
And those snap-traps don't always work as advertised. I had a job many lifetimes ago which involved setting and checking the traps every few days. One day came across a mouse whose spine had been shattered mid-back by the killing arm, but it hadn't died - poor creature must have suffered for days, a good deal more than any of those which drowned in the anti-freeze.
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That's even better than the redneck fire alarm.
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this I did not know. I just dont see how this trap is any different than placing dcon out, or any other rat poison. :headscratch: :headscratch:
It is exactly because dead mice stink that you don't use Dcon. Mice generally just transport the DCon from the box at point A to a nest at Point B. When they get it there, they eat at their leisure and then die there. It's very unpleasant when they die in your walls or some other place that is difficult to access.
I don't enjoy the thought of any critter (except probably mosquitos or no see ums) dying a miserable death, but time and the amount of damage the vermin cause have pushed me to using this because it works and is very, very cheap.
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cool.