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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: hgtonyvi on March 24, 2014, 03:38:45 PM
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Hello Aces high community I need the best help I can get with purchasing a new desktop computer. I already have a monitor so I just need the processor. I have a link here with a option I think might be good for aces high, not just aces high but for regular use for example: browsing the web, typing documents, downloading stuff, just more like the regular things people do on a computer. Also a great processor to run aces high to the max resolutions and to provide the best resolutions for the upcoming download. Here is my option but I'm still looking for help from u computer geeks. http://m.tigerdirect.com/products/8572730
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Im no PC guru but looking at the specs, that PC has integrated graphics, not a seperate video card. It is doubtful you will get AH to run with full eye candy settings.
In the budget gaming price point ($500 to $700) most off the shelf PC's generally have have low end graphics cards or the dreaded integrated graphics set up.
I am a computer novice, but I have been doing a lot of research into pre-built and do it yourself PC's the last couple of months. I'm sure our more knowledgeable forum dwellers would say the same.
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I did a quick check on the link,a couple of things came up that made me think you could get a better system for not a whole lot more!
The vidcard says it's an HD8350 amd with 1 gig of Vram,this is a low end card at best,if it's even a sepperate vidcard. Also the PSU is only 300 watts...WTF 300watts!
At $530 price point you wont be able to build a killer machine but for not much more you can put together a much better machine than the one you posted.
I'm sure if you check back in a couple of days someone will surprize you with a great machine in the 700 dollar range!
YMMV.
:salute
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I hope u computer gurus post some good machines. I'm not so good at computer specs and such. Please give me a proper machine. Skuzzy might know about one. Any help skuzzy?
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When you buy a PC at a store, always count on buying a video card, bigger power supply and more RAM. As someone who has always owned these types of PCs, I know this to be truth! Places like tigerdirect are probably the place to go if you don't want to build one.
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I hope u computer gurus post some good machines. I'm not so good at computer specs and such. Please give me a proper machine. Skuzzy might know about one. Any help skuzzy?
how much are you willing to spend. that's the first question. if you are limited in funds then consider waiting a bit longer. when I started 7 years ago 700 bucks got you a first grade computer, now it's more like bottom line to start and then upgrade.
semp
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how much are you willing to spend. that's the first question. if you are limited in funds then consider waiting a bit longer. when I started 7 years ago 700 bucks got you a first grade computer, now it's more like bottom line to start and then upgrade.
semp
I have to disagree with that. Top end pricing really hasn't changed much. E6800, MB with them new SATA ports, and a 9600 card was about 700 and not top of the line. 700 now gets a machine 10X what it did 7 years ago.
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I have to disagree with that. Top end pricing really hasn't changed much. E6800, MB with them new SATA ports, and a 9600 card was about 700 and not top of the line. 700 now gets a machine 10X what it did 7 years ago.
I had an e8400 with an evga 9800gtx+ spent a little less than 700. played the game with everything on for a couple of years. that wasnt top of the line but it was close to it back then.
semp
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I had an e8400 with an evga 9800gtx+ spent a little less than 700. played the game with everything on for a couple of years. that wasnt top of the line but it was close to it back then.
semp
I still run that for AH, except with a GTX260. :cool:
Mamma's comp is an E6750 with 9800GTX+, it struggles a bit in game but it served me well many years ago.
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Even the $700 one plays the game great.
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/vanquish-ii.asp
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Can some of u give me some brand of processors. I'm not trying to spend over $700 because I already have a monitor. But my range is between $500-800 max. I know some of u can tell me a great machine, I'm trying to get the maximum performance for my budget. Post links and types of brands u computer gurus recommend.
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Can some of u give me some brand of processors. I'm not trying to spend over $700 because I already have a monitor. But my range is between $500-800 max. I know some of u can tell me a great machine, I'm trying to get the maximum performance for my budget. Post links and types of brands u computer gurus recommend.
Get a cheap computer case (40 bucks), i3 Intel CPU bundled with ram and motherboard (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8524748&Sku=M69-7253) 199 bucks, 550-600 watt power supply (XFX black or Seasonic brand) 80ish bucks, mouse+keyboard combo costs you 15 bucks, dvd-drive 30 bucks, hdd 80 bucks, Nvidia GTX750Ti for 170 bucks...
For 614 bucks you have a computer that will run AH and most modern games at 720p nicely. All that you have to do is order the parts and plug everything together (or ask a friend to do it). It takes about an hour to build your first computer from scratch. Assuming you have the operating system covered, otherwise expect to pay 120 bucks more.
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I never built a computer before. It would be easier to buy one already built lol.
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Hey buddy, I happen to be a Cave Man, seriously. I am a redneck hunting camping cave man............But I just built my first computer by myself, or more accuratly I assembled the pieces. It is really seriously so simple a cave man can do it and you get a lot more bang for your buck. Check out YouTube, do a little bit of research and get others advice like your doing now and you can do it. You will also be a lot more satisfied in my opinin if you do it yourself. I for one will never buy another store built computer.
Nim
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I never built a computer before. It would be easier to buy one already built lol.
building your own is really easy. and you get better components that you can later upgrade. most brand name computers like dell, gateway... cant be upgraded unless you buy their components.
semp
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There are plenty of places that will assemble a computer from parts you select for a nominal fee.
http://www.ncixus.com/ This place will do it for 50 bucks if you're not willing to do it yourself.
It's not the only place but I've used them several times and they will assemble and test the system if you purchase an OS to go with it. They offer prebuilt units,mix and match and of course you can hand select each part.
Price wise they are on par with Newegg and the like and I think they still offer price matching with proof of pricing.
If you dont really know what to look for or what you should build,try looking at,
http://www.tomshardware.com/
They review and recommend equipment and lots more. Check their budget build game machines,they just might have what you need at your pricepoint!
Mrripley just pointed out a great setup for the price in his post above and if you price shop each part you might even get it alittle cheaper.
:salute
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Hey buddy, I happen to be a Cave Man, seriously. I am a redneck hunting camping cave man............But I just built my first computer by myself, or more accurately I assembled the pieces. It is really seriously so simple a cave man can do it and you get a lot more bang for your buck. Check out YouTube, do a little bit of research and get others advice like your doing now and you can do it. You will also be a lot more satisfied in my opinin if you do it yourself. I for one will never buy another store built computer.
Nim
Exactly!
Great video here from NewEgg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls)
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I just built my own machine as well. Total cost: around 600.00 The hardest part was actually installing after the build ! I am still trying to get it all the way i want it . If you do start a build , remember to just take your time and don't rush the build. It will turn out great !
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I believe this is one of the best sites about what you should expect for a gaming rig at a certain price: http://lifehacker.com/5840963/the-best-pcs-you-can-build-for-600-and-1200 (http://lifehacker.com/5840963/the-best-pcs-you-can-build-for-600-and-1200). The sub $300 is pretty much equal to what you linked, although I think the components may have been chosen more from the end user's point of view. The $600 one should run AH for quite some time with decent graphics.
That said, if you feel uncertain the link Morfiend suggested is good advice. Or you can take a look at the Internet prices, walk into the local builder store and ask how much a similar build would cost. They might let you look at how they build it and on a good day you might even be allowed to ask questions. That's how I learned building computers way back then.
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I believe this is one of the best sites about what you should expect for a gaming rig at a certain price: http://lifehacker.com/5840963/the-best-pcs-you-can-build-for-600-and-1200 (http://lifehacker.com/5840963/the-best-pcs-you-can-build-for-600-and-1200). The sub $300 is pretty much equal to what you linked, although I think the components may have been chosen more from the end user's point of view. The $600 one should run AH for quite some time with decent graphics.
That said, if you feel uncertain the link Morfiend suggested is good advice. Or you can take a look at the Internet prices, walk into the local builder store and ask how much a similar build would cost. They might let you look at how they build it and on a good day you might even be allowed to ask questions. That's how I learned building computers way back then.
Wow a $19.99 power supply :O Yup with parts like that you can press the build price down a lot. The 750ti is great in that it doesn't require a beefy PSU, it can even run without a pci-e power cable. The cx430 got a surprisingly good review even: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=214
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I really don't know anyone that can build me a computer. It will be good if I can buy a brand new processor.
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I really don't know anyone that can build me a computer. It will be good if I can buy a brand new processor.
If you don't dare to build it yourself, the best alternative would be to let a professional build it for you. Not knowing your whereabouts it's quite hard to recommend you a local builder shop. Telephone catalogue? Local paper classified ads? Asking your friends/workmates? The next best alternative would be the one Morfiend suggested or a similar place.
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I think it would be easier for me to buy a new processor and add a pci HD video card. Would that be a good idea? Can u guys explain what is a good performance processor. I'm really not familiar with video card watts and such. How do I know exactly what processor supports the best requirements for a HD video card and what pci slot I should stall it in.
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Here is a next possible option I might be interested in, give me ur opinion. http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=9177174&pid=1218994550644&pcatId=pcmcat287600050002. Here is another http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=1625504&pid=1219058146951&pcatId=pcmcat287600050002
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Here is another possible choice. Let me know guys. http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=1625504&pid=1219058146951&pcatId=pcmcat287600050002
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I would get an i5 rig from digital storm before getting one from best buy.
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Can some of u give me some brand of processors. I'm not trying to spend over $700 because I already have a monitor. But my range is between $500-800 max. I know some of u can tell me a great machine, I'm trying to get the maximum performance for my budget. Post links and types of brands u computer gurus recommend.
You never commented on the link I posted. It fits your $700 range, and I know it runs the game well. My brother in law bought this one and he flies as MARK4 these days with most of the eye candy turned on.
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This links I posted does work with my budget. I would still like some more options fugitive.
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I never built a computer before. It would be easier to buy one already built lol.
Have you ever built a model?
These days building a PC is easier. And there are lots of "How to" videos out there that will show you step by step..how to
Skuzzy typically doesn't recommend specific systems and rightly so. He will however occasionally chime in if he knows something isnt good or a part meets his muster. Least thats been my observation
You should be able to get more then enough help from the rest of the folk here though to help guide you to a decent build
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Here is a next possible option I might be interested in, give me ur opinion. http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=9177174&pid=1218994550644&pcatId=pcmcat287600050002. Here is another http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=1625504&pid=1219058146951&pcatId=pcmcat287600050002
Here is another possible choice. Let me know guys. http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=1625504&pid=1219058146951&pcatId=pcmcat287600050002
Those are just about worthless since they include on-board graphics.
If you must buy per-assembled, look into something like this:
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-B85-Core-i5-Configurator (http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-B85-Core-i5-Configurator)
Intel B85 Core i5 Configurator
Case 1 x Raidmax Cobra Gaming Case - Blue
Case Lighting X
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction X
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion X
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i5-4670 Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling 1 x Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink
Memory 1 x 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - FREE Upgrade to DDR3-1866 ADATA XPG V2
Video Card 1 x AMD Radeon R7 250 - 2GB
Motherboard 1 x MSI B85 G41 -- 2x PCIe 3.0 x16, 2x USB 3.0, HDMI
Power Supply 1 x 500 Watt - Standard - Free Upgrade to 500W OCZ ModXStream Pro - 80 PLUS
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive **Free Upgrade to 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Single Drive**
Data Hard Drive X
Optical Drive 1 x [12x Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Reader, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive - Black
2nd Optical Drive X
Flash Media Reader / Writer X
Meter Display X
Sound Card 1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card 1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
USB Expansion Card X
Operating System 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit
Keyboard 1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Keyboard
Mouse 1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Mouse
Monitor X
2nd Monitor X
Speaker System X
Video Camera X
Case Engraving Service X
Warranty 1 x 3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service 1 x No Rush Service (Ships in 10-15 Business Days)
Total Price:$ 827, Customized: 03-26-2014 07:31 AM
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I think it would be easier for me to buy a new processor and add a pci HD video card. Would that be a good idea? Can u guys explain what is a good performance processor. I'm really not familiar with video card watts and such. How do I know exactly what processor supports the best requirements for a HD video card and what pci slot I should stall it in.
By processor I believe you mean the entire mainframe, not the 1.5"x1.5" chip, right? Your idea has been succesfully tested by some of the AH community, but: Basic ready built computers are just what you pay for. That means they aren't designed to be beefed up by just adding one component. If you add a gaming level video card, you'd have to replace the original power supply, too. Some of the cheapest ready-built computers have been stripped to the minimum, they may even lack a pci-e slot for the video card. Again, if you don't know how to build one, find a professional who'll design and build it for you. Or buy one from a gamer oriented web shop. The bestbuy options you sent are mediocre and if you really like the Cybertrons, why wouldn't you look directly at their shop: http://www.cybertronpc.com/home~cat~gamers.htm (http://www.cybertronpc.com/home~cat~gamers.htm). At least they let you modify your choice and give information about all of the components used, like that the Hellion II uses an InWin 450 watt power supply which isn't on the top 5 list of reliability.
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Those are just about worthless since they include on-board graphics.
Although they include onboard graphics, too, they are actually equipped with real video cards. Not very powerful, though.
@hgtonyvi: The compilation Dragon suggested is way above those $799 Cybertrons, especially with the free upgrade options.
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Although they include onboard graphics, too, they are actually equipped with real video cards. Not very powerful, though.
@hgtonyvi: The compilation Dragon suggested is way above those $799 Cybertrons, especially with the free upgrade options.
Kinda like an Etch-A-Sketch with motorized knobs.
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Can u guys send me a complete list of parts that is best suited for my budget to build the machine. The only problem I have is installing the hard drives and booting up the new comp. also how will I be able to make a system recovery disk just incase the comp gets invested with a virus or something.
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The compilation Dragon just sent is quite a good one. Or the Lifehacker one I referred to. Reading the threads from the last couple of months here, titled like "your opinion on this" or "my new build" should also give you many viable options.
Installing hard a hard drive is a no-brainer, just slide it in its slot and plug the cables. An empty PC will automatically boot from the DVD, starting the installation procedure. The same disk will work as a repair tool, you can also make a repair disk from within Windows. And there's a very powerful backup tool in Windows itself with which you can make full backups of your entire system at any time. With the install or repair disk and a full backup on e.g. a USB hard disk you can revert your system to the state it was when the backup was made. How fresh backup images you'll have is up to you.
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I'm getting an idea slowly. How does the power switch works. Like for instance if I get a case how do I put a power button infront. All this stuff is making it hard for me, especially installing the DVD RW drives and such. I get the idea how to install a CPU, video card, fan for the CPU and DDR drives, I just need to learn more about the power supply, installing hard drives and such and the rest of the components for the machine.
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The power switch is part of the case. When you plug in the various cords from the power supply (they each only fit where they're supposed to), one runs to the switch.
Quickie build instructions:
Drop the CPU into the slot on the motherboard and lock in place.
Install RAM into slots.
Add thermal paste to heatsink, place over CPU and lock in place.
Screw motherboard into case making sure standoffs are installed behind it.
Plug fan wires into motherboard.
Slide CD/DVD/Hard drives into slots and lock in place.
Connect drives to motherboard.
Install PSU.
Plug in CPU and main power connectors.
Plug in drive connectors.
Lock video card into slot and attach power connector.
Replace side panel.
Attach keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc.
Power up with OS CD in drive.
Follow prompts to install OS.
Connect to Internet.
Update OS.
Install antivirus.
3 hours tops.
Install applications.
Play games, surf the net and have fun with your new machine.
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Follow the link, do what he does and bam!!! You have aq computer. :rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUghCx9iso
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The power switch is part of the case. When you plug in the various cords from the power supply (they each only fit where they're supposed to), one runs to the switch.
Quickie build instructions:
Drop the CPU into the slot on the motherboard and lock in place.
Install RAM into slots.
Add thermal paste to heatsink, place over CPU and lock in place.
Screw motherboard into case making sure standoffs are installed behind it.
Plug fan wires into motherboard.
Slide CD/DVD/Hard drives into slots and lock in place.
Connect drives to motherboard.
Install PSU.
Plug in CPU and main power connectors.
Plug in drive connectors.
Lock video card into slot and attach power connector.
Replace side panel.
Attach keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc.
Power up with OS CD in drive.
Follow prompts to install OS.
Connect to Internet.
Update OS.
Install antivirus.
3 hours tops.
Install applications.
Play games, surf the net and have fun with your new machine.
You forgot an essential step: Connect the case wires to the appropriate places in the motherboard. Most important being power switch cable, reset cable. Optionally you can connect USB, front audio panel etc. cables which also hang from the side of the case.
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Ty baldeagle I was kinda confused because when I saw the newegg video on YouTube the guy did something about formatting the hard drive or hard disk something of that. It was the one in part3 of the newegg video. Btw when u buy a CPU does it come with the cooling fan and the paste or do I have to get that seperately?
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Ty baldeagle I was kinda confused because when I saw the newegg video on YouTube the guy did something about formatting the hard drive or hard disk something of that. It was the one in part3 of the newegg video. Btw when u buy a CPU does it come with the cooling fan and the paste or do I have to get that seperately?
If you buy a 'boxed' cpu it comes with a factory cooler but you will get a better performing setup by buying a 'tray' cpu and an aftermarket 30 dollar cpu cooler. The end result will be cooler and quieter.
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What's a box CPU or tray CPU?
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What's a box CPU or tray CPU?
Didn't I just explain? LOL! Boxed CPU comes with a cooler tray CPU doesn't.
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Oops now I understand, can u give me an outline of what I need to start building the comp?
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Oops now I understand, can u give me an outline of what I need to start building the comp?
Working eyesight, two hands with working fingers and some money. :rolleyes:
Bizman pointed an article that has self buildable computers in 300,600 and 1200 dollar ranges. The 600 dollar example would run AH like a charm. http://lifehacker.com/5840963/the-best-pcs-you-can-build-for-600-and-1200
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So if I install a hard drive do I need to stall a ssd drive also or is that optional?
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Here is a Newegg wish list for a i3 build. http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=25308886
This should give you good performance in AH. The case has room in the back for cable management. The video card has good reviews
for being a 192 bit interface. The Antec power supply is made by Seasonic. I have used the Vulcan memory and seems to work well.
I always prefer a sound card over on board sound. I never had any problems with a Intel network interface card (NIC).
I trust a cooler with a back plate and screws over those cheap plastic push pin boxed coolers.
Windows 7 Home Premium allows up to 16 GB of memory. If you chose to install more (which in most cases is over kill) you will need
Pro or Ultimate.
Shop around, look for combo deals on the CPU and motherboard. Be sure to check shipping costs. It may be the lowest price but you may pay a premium
for the shipping. and to add what MrRipley said, you will need to know how to operate a phillips head screwdriver.
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Optional, SSD's just makes operating systems and programs boot/load faster. Not needed for AH.
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Ok so I should just stick with a 1-2tb hard drive and 7200rpm or 10000 rpm?
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I'm getting an idea slowly. How does the power switch works. Like for instance if I get a case how do I put a power button infront. All this stuff is making it hard for me, especially installing the DVD RW drives and such. I get the idea how to install a CPU, video card, fan for the CPU and DDR drives, I just need to learn more about the power supply, installing hard drives and such and the rest of the components for the machine.
You might want to carefully study a used computer to learn the basics the cheap way. If you lived within an evening's ride I'd like to donate you a couple of old XP rigs with an installation cd. I suppose there's plenty of happy donors in your neighbourhood, too, wanting to get rid of the old computer. Ask your neighbours, employer, school... A decade old PC might still work although it's value has dropped below zero and the construction hasn't really changed. Should you connect something wrong, the loss wouldn't be worth mentioning.
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I'm currently still shopping for a motherboard and CPU, can u guys give me advice on a power supply. I plan on using a i5 CPU and also some kind of HD video card with 2G. I will keep on board audio because that's not so important to me since I don't use surround sound. And also I will get a 1Tb hard drive with 7200rpm or 10000 rpm. Please let me know what else is needed to start the build. Oo I forgot about the 2 DDR drives I will be adding for addition performance.
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I do have a computer now which runs on windows Xp and its about 15 years old. That is the comp I am using ATM to play aces high and do other things with. The reason why I'm trying to get a new machine is because the comp is getting outdated and windows XP won't be in use anymore. When I start my build I will use the old machine as a reference. Also I think the motherboard comes with a information booklet so I can mark the plug points and know exactly where the parts plug in.
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Also I think the motherboard comes with a information booklet so I can mark the plug points and know exactly where the parts plug in.
Precisely. They always come with one, including pictures.
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I'm currently still shopping for a motherboard and CPU, can u guys give me advice on a power supply. I plan on using a i5 CPU and also some kind of HD video card with 2G. I will keep on board audio because that's not so important to me since I don't use surround sound. And also I will get a 1Tb hard drive with 7200rpm or 10000 rpm. Please let me know what else is needed to start the build. Oo I forgot about the 2 DDR drives I will be adding for addition performance.
The faster rpm your drive has the faster performance it usually has compared to other regular drives of the same capacity. The faster drive may put out more noise so if you care about noise levels you may want to pick the lower performance model instead.
Do not stare at video ram amounts in graphics cards! They tell absolutely nothing of the performance. Check the performance chart at tomshardware.com they have listed pretty much every mainstream graphics card to a list where lowest performing cards are on bottom and fastest cards on top: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
You'll find out that many '2G' cards are actually horrible performers.
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Ok thank you for the heads up on the graphic card details. Can u tell me about a good power supply for the parts I listed above.
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Ok thank you for the heads up on the graphic card details. Can u tell me about a good power supply for the parts I listed above.
The graphics card will suck the most of your power so you have to pick your PSU according to your card selection. XFX black series and Seasonic are almost fail proof selection for PSU. All XFX blacks are built by Seasonic.
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Another thing you can do is look at built systems and check out what they put in them. Many sites list the parts they use. Take the list to NewEgg and check the prices. The "Vanquish" computer I posted the link to was $700. When I priced out the parts from Newegg they were $675.
The plus side is you KNOW they work well together.
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So it's better to just buy a ready built comp, $25 is not a big difference to me comparing 675-700.
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In this case maybe. Remember they buy in bulk so they get better prices. The point is you KNOW what to buy, they list it for you. You might find othet sites with list too. Google a couple of your parts and you should get some hits on companies selling those parts in a pre built computer. It just gives you a better idea how how much these things costs and sometimes what is better to buy in the long run.
As for the "Vanquish" computer it comes with a repair disk and free technical support. Bother things my brother in law likes as he has kids they love to mess up his computer. :D
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I'm still debating. The reason why I wana buy a comp is because everything is installed for me and it saves me the labor. On the other hand building a comp might be way cheap since the parts add up to a lesser price. And also buying comps with hard drives with 1TB and i5core processor with top end motherboards and such cost way more than what u would expect to pay. By saying that I still gave a lot of researching to do. Especially what u said fugitive its good for me to check top computers and how much each part cost and see the differences.
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I'm still debating. The reason why I wana buy a comp is because everything is installed for me and it saves me the labor. On the other hand building a comp might be way cheap since the parts add up to a lesser price. And also buying comps with hard drives with 1TB and i5core processor with top end motherboards and such cost way more than what u would expect to pay. By saying that I still gave a lot of researching to do. Especially what u said fugitive its good for me to check top computers and how much each part cost and see the differences.
Do you download a lot of videos?
If not you dont NEED a 1TB system. I have a 600 gig for like 5 years now and I've yet come close to filling it up
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Actually I don't download much. I'll just stick to a 500gig then. It will cause me a lot cheaper.
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Minimum parts needed to build a computer to game on:
Case
Motherboard
CPU + CPU cooler + thermal paste (all included in retail boxed CPU)
RAM
PSU
Video card
HD
DVD ROM
OS
Does not include keyboard, monitor, mouse, speakers/headset, microphone etc.
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Another thing you can do is look at built systems and check out what they put in them. Many sites list the parts they use. Take the list to NewEgg and check the prices. The "Vanquish" computer I posted the link to was $700. When I priced out the parts from Newegg they were $675.
The plus side is you KNOW they work well together.
It's actually not necessarily a good idea at all to look at ready computer builds. They have profit margins to cut so they skimp on the most essential parts of the hardware usually such as having sub-par graphics card. If you repeat their build you get a cheaper result but just as sucky performance.
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True, but if you look at gaming computers then you can be pretty such they are half decent. I know the vanquish runs the game well as I've played on it.
Comparing gaming computers to gaming computers, it won't be long until you know the good from the weak.
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There's pros and cons in both building and getting a ready built. Building one is very educating but if you do something wrong it can turn expensive. Also if a component turns out to be DOA, getting a replacement will slow down the process a lot. A ready built comes with a warranty for the entire package.
Some builder shops will test the computer they've build for a small additional charge. Some may have a bunch of variations from "basic" to "pro". The levels in between include motherboard bios update and testing, installing components into the case with or without testing, neat cable management, OS installation etc.
Shifting the risk of failure on someone else might be worth some extra.
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Shifting the risk of failure on someone else might be worth some extra.
But then you miss all the fun!
And after you build your first box you can always upgrade it whenever you need it without paying anyone. If you always buy ready your upgrade options are also much more limited which can cost you a lot in the long term.