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Title: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: darkzking on March 30, 2014, 03:28:35 AM
would be awesome to have this in the game  :airplane:
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Nimrod45 on March 30, 2014, 04:04:48 AM
+1
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bozon on March 30, 2014, 08:14:26 AM
It was a pig, but historically important enough. As soon as HTC are done with the Beaufighter, they can consider this :)
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: aztec on March 30, 2014, 10:01:08 AM
+1  oink
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: -ammo- on March 30, 2014, 10:24:58 AM
IIRC, that thing had Hispanos.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Arlo on March 30, 2014, 10:53:23 AM
IIRC, that thing had Hispanos.

Yup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SB2C_Helldiver

Good for events.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Karnak on March 30, 2014, 11:05:43 AM
Yup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SB2C_Helldiver

Good for events.
Not without Japanese attack aircraft actually from he '40s.  The Japanese are already at a severe disadvantage due to their 1937 D3A1 being matched against a 1943 SBD-5 and their 1938 B5N2 matched against a 1942 TBM-3.  Would have been nice to at least get the extra 40mph brought by the 1942 D3A2....
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Arlo on March 30, 2014, 11:07:12 AM
Not without Japanese attack aircraft actually from he '40s.  The Japanese are already at a severe disadvantage due to their 1937 D3A1 being matched against a 1943 SBD-5 and their 1938 B5N2 matched against a 1942 TBM-3.  Would have been nice to at least get the extra 40mph brought by the 1942 D3A2....

Relax. I'm not against Imperial Japan additions.  :D
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Coalcat1 on March 30, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
+1 They should also add the Japanese Judy Divebomber as well. But the SB2C would be a better addition since it played a large role in sinking the Yamoto.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on March 30, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
All of the above... I'll even put in a boost for the Vultee Vengeance. It was a total pos...
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Blinder on March 30, 2014, 04:15:00 PM
Yes. My grandfather flew this brute with his last assignment. VB-81 The HellRazors

This is him in the lead ship in both photos.

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/18044_1285695632091_4793980_n.jpg)

...

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/18044_1285695672092_1380763_n.jpg)

Definitely a +1 from me!  :aok
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Coalcat1 on March 30, 2014, 04:18:58 PM
    I just thought, the May perk it!  :(  I really hope they don't.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Arlo on March 30, 2014, 04:28:17 PM
May not perk it but may make the handling reflect it's beastly rep.  :cool:
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Volron on March 30, 2014, 07:25:19 PM
Won't be perked, not by a long shot.  FAR too many AC we have now that would do the job a lot better and even dogfight after. :)
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Coalcat1 on March 30, 2014, 07:39:03 PM
The only other CV AC that has 4 20 mils, the F4U-1C, is perked for a reson, CV attacks would mainly consist of them otherwise. For this reson HTC MAY perk it.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Karnak on March 30, 2014, 08:21:34 PM
The only other CV AC that has 4 20 mils, the F4U-1C, is perked for a reson, CV attacks would mainly consist of them otherwise. For this reson HTC MAY perk it.
SB2C had two 20mm cannons, not four.  You need a Firefly to get another with four.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: MrKrabs on March 31, 2014, 02:13:15 AM
Well, look at the success with the Tu-2 and it's not perked!

Another one would be the La-5N - it has 2 cannons and not perked...

"La-5N is fun"
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Karnak on March 31, 2014, 02:22:37 AM
There is no way the SB2C would be a perk plane.  The idea is absurd.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bozon on March 31, 2014, 04:13:23 AM
There is no way the SB2C would be a perk plane.  The idea is absurd.
Hehe, from what I head, pilots that converted to the SB2C wanted their SBDs back :)
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Saxman on March 31, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Hehe, from what I head, pilots that converted to the SB2C wanted their SBDs back :)

Yeah, the early marks suffered from horrible handling characteristics. It took until the -3 and -4 before they finally got the kinks worked out.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Blinder on March 31, 2014, 02:01:23 PM
Hehe, from what I head, pilots that converted to the SB2C wanted their SBDs back :)

My grandfather used to talk about how he would have taken his Vought Vindicator back instead of the Son of a Beetch 2nd Class let alone the his beloved Dauntless but ...he did say that after they received the later dash variants it started to grow on him a bit. He was eventually impressed with the amount of damage it could absorb and get him back aboard his carrier but he never really fell in love with its handling.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: ONTOS on March 31, 2014, 02:20:42 PM
I'll take one Helldiver please. :salute



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Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Fish42 on March 31, 2014, 04:53:24 PM
The only other CV AC that has 4 20 mils, the F4U-1C, is perked for a reson, CV attacks would mainly consist of them otherwise. For this reson HTC MAY perk it.

My Hurricane would like a word with you...
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Volron on March 31, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
My Hurricane would like a word with you...

There is no SeaCane.... :noid
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Coalcat1 on March 31, 2014, 07:27:50 PM
Sorry, was a bit of wrong info but I ment to say the only LW/ Figter with higher ENY.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on March 31, 2014, 08:30:31 PM
The beast? 7000 units produced, many "targets" destroyed ( though I'm highly skeptical of those who say it destroyed the most Japanese targets of any warbird -the problem lying in the definition of target)... It clearly qualifies under the criteria of the game. I don't want to fly it but I'd love to try to smash one to bits with a George or hayate. It'd be a real challenge to try to kill one with an Oscar.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Saxman on April 01, 2014, 08:00:15 AM
( though I'm highly skeptical of those who say it destroyed the most Japanese targets of any warbird -the problem lying in the definition of target)

Which it didn't. The only US weapon that sunk more tonnage than the Dauntless was the submarine.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on April 01, 2014, 06:33:06 PM
And that's part of the reason... If tonnage is the yardstick, dauntless. If it's square footage of city made uninhabitable, or building count, for that matter, ni-kyu-ju, as they called it. That claim was in wiki, and I'd want to examine the Metric they based it on . Sounds shammy...
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 01, 2014, 08:09:48 PM
Here's a picture of a SB2C-3 doing a fly by near the IJN cruiser Kashima at Jaluit Atoll in the Marshall Islands.

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj639/Mark_Allen_M/23-SB2CflownbyLtFrederickCLambertUSMCRoverJaluitAtollintheMarshallIslands_zpsa3d7a837.jpg)

The SB2C that should be added to the game should be the SB2C-4 model as it added the ability to carry 5 inch HVAR rockets in addition to a more powerful engine.

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