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Title: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: alpini13 on April 02, 2014, 11:48:02 PM
....gentleman. i would like to see the d-5 variant of the stuka added.....it would be pretty easy.   the current g-2 that is in game now......is based on the d-5.  and so the modeling is already in game. the d-5 would have the bomb load of the also currently availabe d-3 that is in game now, with the addition of more speed in level flight, more speed attained in a dive and 2 x 20mm cannons in the wings. this variant was made in great numbers(almost as many as the d-3) and served from 1943-45 in front line service. hans ulrich rudell flew a d-5 before flying the g-1 and g-2. it would have increased performance over the current d-3 in late war scenarios and would be availabe in late war arena.
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Megalodon on April 03, 2014, 12:41:29 AM
....gentleman. i would like to see the d-5 variant of the stuka added.....it would be pretty easy.   the current g-2 that is in game now......is based on the d-5.  and so the modeling is already in game. the d-5 would have the bomb load of the also currently availabe d-3 that is in game now, with the addition of more speed in level flight, more speed attained in a dive and 2 x 20mm cannons in the wings. this variant was made in great numbers(almost as many as the d-3) and served from 1943-45 in front line service. hans ulrich rudell flew a d-5 before flying the g-1 and g-2. it would have increased performance over the current d-3 in late war scenarios and would be availabe in late war arena.

+1000

Yes sir absolutely and easy as pie to add....

Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: pembquist on April 03, 2014, 01:41:54 AM
Stuka with 2 20mm sounds nice.
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: R 105 on April 03, 2014, 07:36:02 AM
 :aok Sounds right to me.
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 03, 2014, 07:45:53 AM
 +1 to this! We also need the long-range version of the Stuka.    :aok
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Volron on April 03, 2014, 07:47:31 AM
+1 to this! We also need the long-range version of the Stuka.    :aok

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Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 03, 2014, 07:50:25 AM
:headscratch:
   There was a long range variant made with DTs permanently attached to the wing bomb points.
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: 10thmd on April 03, 2014, 07:57:34 AM
They were based off the earlier B models and given the R designation.
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Volron on April 03, 2014, 08:19:50 AM
   There was a long range variant made with DTs permanently attached to the wing bomb points.

Oooooo...  I'd use it to fly to an HQ and back, just for the hell of it...and providing I actually LIVE to accomplish it. :)
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: lunatic1 on April 03, 2014, 08:40:21 AM
finally a reasonable and likeable wish
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 03, 2014, 10:23:18 AM
So this model would basically add dual 20mm's to the same stuka dive bomber we already have? 
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: bustr on April 03, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Our current bomb truck Stuka with two 20mm would be underestimated by PO'd players for it's furballing potential at 25% fuel. Along with having a better survival rate on those mass Stuka fun missions. A few players would capitalize on this just to embarrass the less skilled. I remember a Stuka raid where our BB guns were what got most of the raid killed after a single La7 showed up at the vBase. Only one of us got home, and it took all of us peppering the La with BB's to knock him down as he slaughtered us. 
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Megalodon on April 03, 2014, 02:09:32 PM
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/ac82b9ad-f95a-4dc6-9508-b968acf615ad_zps635d71b6.png)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/0a5263ac-a721-4ff0-be0f-39f3b2bb7fba_zps0e0c6481.png)

Ju87-D5-Bo Handbook
http://d01.megashares.com/dl/tpf9CS3/Ju 87-D5 Bo.pdf (http://d01.megashares.com/dl/tpf9CS3/Ju 87-D5 Bo.pdf)
Of interest the amount of different ammo configs

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Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: RotBaron on April 03, 2014, 02:35:03 PM
Sounds good  :aok
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: tmetal on April 03, 2014, 03:11:23 PM
So this model would basically add dual 20mm's to the same stuka dive bomber we already have? 

and a little more horsepower than the D-3 currently in game, IIRC
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Rich46yo on April 03, 2014, 03:22:02 PM
+1. Stukas, and Stuka raids, are fun.
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: waystin2 on April 03, 2014, 03:46:16 PM
+1
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: ONTOS on April 03, 2014, 06:33:09 PM
It sounds good to me, let's do it.





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Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: glzsqd on April 04, 2014, 08:27:12 AM
+1
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 04, 2014, 03:20:03 PM
I know HTC has a lot on their plate, but one has to wonder why this version was not added when they remodeled the Stuka not all that long ago??? 
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 04, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
Probably because it would have made the D-3 obsolete.  Players would take the D-5 over the D-3 because of the cannons.  I am surprised though that we didn't get a B series Stuka when the Stuka was updated, it would have been great for scenarios.

ack-ack
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Volron on April 04, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
Probably because it would have made the D-3 obsolete.  Players would take the D-5 over the D-3 because of the cannons.  I am surprised though that we didn't get a B series Stuka when the Stuka was updated, it would have been great for scenarios.

ack-ack

But then we'd have a complaint thread about the siren before the day ended... :noid
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Karnak on April 04, 2014, 08:00:34 PM
The most lopsided interception and fight that I have ever had in AH was intercepting a Ju87D-3 in an A6M3.  The A6M3 just felt so immensely powerful and fast in comparison that it really felt like pure hunter vs prey.

I doubt the Ju87D-5 would have changed that a whit.
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Slade on April 05, 2014, 08:05:35 AM
+1
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Charge on April 05, 2014, 10:23:38 AM
"Players would take the D-5 over the D-3 because of the cannons.  I am surprised though that we didn't get a B series Stuka when the Stuka was updated, it would have been great for scenarios."

And that is why it was a D-3 to begin with. It could be used in place of B models in scenarios. An initial B model would have certainly meant that they were going to make later models too, now we have one which is somewhat representative for both Bs and Ds (and could be used to make the G).

I'd like to have D-5 because of MG151/20s, though. It is not a "Zero interceptor" but at least it could do something if it gets that one snapshot chance.

-C+
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Seadog36 on April 05, 2014, 08:40:07 PM
They are very turkey machines and with cannon would  :aok a little scary. Seems like Ju87s were basically out of the picture in LWWII regardless. Would be a fun m3 killer in MA fantasyland though +1
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Big Rat on April 05, 2014, 08:52:24 PM
+1, would deffinitly make me feel better about being assigned Stukas in FSO.

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: the ju-87 d-5 stuka....an easy wish
Post by: Megalodon on April 06, 2014, 11:35:12 AM
Ju-87D-5 Armament Handbook. pdf.........26mb..... click regular download
http://d01.megashares.com/dl/oK97rAG/Ju-87D-5 Sch.pdf (http://d01.megashares.com/dl/oK97rAG/Ju-87D-5 Sch.pdf)

Ju-87D-5 of St.G-2, Kursk, Summer 1943
(http://www.airpages.ru/img/ju87d5.jpg)

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