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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Traveler on April 14, 2014, 08:37:21 AM
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one room on the BBS that is reserved for paying members. Keep all the other rooms public but please have one room that is for members only.
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+1 not that I mind the people that don't play anymore...but they don't play the game anymore...so they don't really know what is going on in the game as of today or yesterday or for some in a couple of years
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:aok
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My question is what purpose would this serve?
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My question is what purpose would this serve?
Exactly.. We already have private squad forums. Is it really necessary to have a forum just for members with current subscriptions? Seems to me like this would be an exclusionary tactic in a situation (The Game needing more players) where we need more INCLUSION.
Gonna say -1 to this. If you wanna discuss AH stuff with current players only, take it to squad forums. Invite more people to your squad forum.
<S>
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Exactly.. We already have private squad forums. Is it really necessary to have a forum just for members with current subscriptions? Seems to me like this would be an exclusionary tactic in a situation (The Game needing more players) where we need more INCLUSION.
Gonna say -1 to this. If you wanna discuss AH stuff with current players only, take it to squad forums. Invite more people to your squad forum.
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Agree!
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My question is what purpose would this serve?
to stop guys who haven't played in a couple of years but know exactly what is "wrong with the game "
semp
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Make it like most MMO games, anyone can read the forums but to post you need to be an active subscriber.
ack-ack
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Exclusion from what could be vital information is not the way to go. Many folks use the forums as a way to stay in touch with developments and sometimes personal and technical contact. I don't believe that your intent is to block such access, but many of us would not pay much attention to whether or not we were posting in a member only BBS or General Forums BBS. Many times answers to questions asked in one forum can be found in another. Blocking access in this way would only diminish the search capabilities, and possibly add to redundant posts. Basically, you already have online chat privileges that non members do not have access to (not the same, but pretty awesome system in my opinion).
In addition, some non members are dedicated Aces High enthusiasts with a variety of circumstances that lead to their unsubscription. I know from personal knowledge that HiTech (who are in the business of subscriptions) value the continued interest in their product.
Squadrons and Special Events Forums should be the only "blocked" access. Those areas provide information about strategic plans that could ruin events if supplied to the opposing force.
Make it like most MMO games, anyone can read the forums but to post you need to be an active subscriber.
ack-ack
But AH is a cut above. (doing my Michael Jackson Thriller transformation :devil "I'm not like other guys....")
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My question is what purpose would this serve?
a Perk for being a paying member for one.
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Exactly.. We already have private squad forums. Is it really necessary to have a forum just for members with current subscriptions? Seems to me like this would be an exclusionary tactic in a situation (The Game needing more players) where we need more INCLUSION.
Gonna say -1 to this. If you wanna discuss AH stuff with current players only, take it to squad forums. Invite more people to your squad forum.
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but you can't enter if you are not in that squad. This would be one room for all paying members only, All other rooms remain the same. Not taking anything away from anyone.
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Exclusion from what could be vital information is not the way to go. Many folks use the forums as a way to stay in touch with developments and sometimes personal and technical contact. I don't believe that your intent is to block such access, but many of us would not pay much attention to whether or not we were posting in a member only BBS or General Forums BBS. Many times answers to questions asked in one forum can be found in another. Blocking access in this way would only diminish the search capabilities, and possibly add to redundant posts. Basically, you already have online chat privileges that non members do not have access to (not the same, but pretty awesome system in my opinion).
In addition, some non members are dedicated Aces High enthusiasts with a variety of circumstances that lead to their unsubscription. I know from personal knowledge that HiTech (who are in the business of subscriptions) value the continued interest in their product.
Squadrons and Special Events Forums should be the only "blocked" access. Those areas provide information about strategic plans that could ruin events if supplied to the opposing force.
But AH is a cut above. (doing my Michael Jackson Thriller transformation :devil "I'm not like other guys....")
No one was being excluded from the form just from the members only room. They can post and tell us what's wrong with AH in all the other rooms. This would just be a perk for the members paying the bills.
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a Perk for being a paying member for one.
I still don't see how having a forum section for paying members only would be considered a perk or how it would be beneficial. It would contain the same type threads that are already seen in every section on this board.
to stop guys who haven't played in a couple of years but know exactly what is "wrong with the game "
What about those that maintain their account, but rarely ever fly? Do the players that fly an hour a month have much more to say than those that haven't played the game in a while?
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I still don't see how having a forum section for paying members only would be considered a perk or how it would be beneficial. It would contain the same type threads that are already seen in every section on this board.
There really wouldn't be any benefit.
ack-ack
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No one was being excluded from the form just from the members only room. They can post and tell us what's wrong with AH in all the other rooms. This would just be a perk for the members paying the bills.
Exclusion from any forum is exclusion. You don't see how now but if implemented, you would see posts in that very forum about members passing on, vital update information, current changes, etc. I guarantee it. This is where your intentions to exclude a minority of folks that maybe you wouldn't agree with or you think are misinformed, has closed the door on the majority of unsubscribed community members who do nothing more than keep in touch with friends and developments.
I have been a player from the year 2000 or even earlier :old: So, you are saying that when my ISP was bought out (in rural area) and no other suitable internet connection for game play was available, I should have paid full subscription amount just to have full access to BBS.
You can see if I take this a little bit personally, but not knowing how long you have been a "paying" customer, I might also think it would be a good idea for a veteran (no newb) section ;)
Actually, I think that we all get along quite well as it is and if not Skuzzy has the terminator skills of a Wolverine. No one really wants him on their case. Although I don't agree with your method of blocking forum discussion, I understand your want to filter posts. Maybe what you really want is an ignore list (squelch button) <<<< This I whole heartedly agree with. It removes frequent "offenders" (those that you personally feel aren't contributing to the conversation).
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What about those that maintain their account, but rarely ever fly? Do the players that fly an hour a month have much more to say than those that haven't played the game in a while?
<raises hand>
That's me, right there. None of these proposals would stop me from posting anything.
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to stop guys who haven't played in a couple of years but know exactly what is "wrong with the game "
semp
Why should we exclude them? Maybe they DO know what's wrong with the game i.e. why they left? Or maybe they would see changes and come back to the game....always a good thing for a game with dwindling numbers, eh?
Can't get behind this one....doesn't make sense to me.
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I still don't see how having a forum section for paying members only would be considered a perk or how it would be beneficial. It would contain the same type threads that are already seen in every section on this board.
What about those that maintain their account, but rarely ever fly? Do the players that fly an hour a month have much more to say than those that haven't played the game in a while?
The perk would be a room in the BBS for paying members only, with no ideas or offerings from people that haven't paid. Where people with vested interested in the success of the game could exchange ideas on how to improve the game. Any one with a valid account would be welcome, even if they chose not to fly and just maintain their account.
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The perk would be a room in the BBS for paying members only, with no ideas or offerings from people that haven't paid. Where people with vested interested in the success of the game could exchange ideas on how to improve the game. Any one with a valid account would be welcome, even if they chose not to fly and just maintain their account.
I don't think my opinions are any more valid than many of the players who no longer have an account. I can't see the use of segregating the community like that. It seems to have downsides and no upsides.
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a Perk for being a paying member for one.
You could always ask Skuzzy to let you start a private forum. You could make sure that only paying players are allowed in.
You'd even be the moderator.
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You could always ask Skuzzy to let you start a private forum. You could make sure that only paying players are allowed in.
You'd even be the moderator.
I still think my approach is better. Enable a filter that allows forum community to ignore (squelch) posts from certain community members. One could possibly add a filter to this proposed ignore list that could include a "non subscribed" option. Starting a private forum, would do the same for Traveler, but why shut the door on folks that may have more pertinent information to offer to others?
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I think you're mistaking Aces High for a country club.
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I still think my approach is better. Enable a filter that allows forum community to ignore (squelch) posts from certain community members. One could possibly add a filter to this proposed ignore list that could include a "non subscribed" option. Starting a private forum, would do the same for Traveler, but why shut the door on folks that may have more pertinent information to offer to others?
Your argument applies to all the private forums. :D
That information would mostly still be on the public forums. Like it is now.
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Maybe tie posting privs to game account perks...
Not enough perks to post? Log into the game, fly and fight, and earn some more perks.
:devil
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I still think my approach is better. Enable a filter that allows forum community to ignore (squelch) posts from certain community members. One could possibly add a filter to this proposed ignore list that could include a "non subscribed" option. Starting a private forum, would do the same for Traveler, but why shut the door on folks that may have more pertinent information to offer to others?
Folks with pertinent information and all the other could still use all the other forum rooms. Just not the one for paying members only. All the forum rooms remain the same. just asking that one new room be added for paying members only.
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Maybe tie posting privs to game account perks...
Not enough perks to post? Log into the game, fly and fight, and earn some more perks.
:devil
Now that's a new idea, however, the non-subscribing public would be left out in the cold.
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this members only room would hurt the game in the long run---people who are thinking about joining this game aka the 2 weekers--come to this forum for information--just because they don't post here doesen't mean they are not reading it......so no,we don't need a private bbs room...you are over ruled by your fellow players.
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one room on the BBS that is reserved for paying members. Keep all the other rooms public but please have one room that is for members only.
we already have one of these, but you gotta know the secret hand shake to get in.
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come on guys--traveler has as much right to post on these forums as anybody else--wether we like or agree or disagree to these post is up to us.....thats what this wishlist is for. :D
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Maybe tie posting privs to game account perks...
Not enough perks to post? Log into the game, fly and fight, and earn some more perks.
:devil
:confused: so you suggest that HTC pay us for something that is free??????
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Why should we exclude them? Maybe they DO know what's wrong with the game i.e. why they left? Or maybe they would see changes and come back to the game....always a good thing for a game with dwindling numbers, eh?
Can't get behind this one....doesn't make sense to me.
they're being excluded from one room not the full bbs. and how exactly do you know we have a game with dwindling numbers? did hitech asked you to sit in on the last staff meeting?
semp
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Now that's a new idea, however, the non-subscribing public would be left out in the cold.
The problem is that you can't actually say that. It is entirely possible that the thing that would have helped them was posted in the subscribers only forum, and not in any of the other forums.
How do you propose to avoid that?
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Non-payers can read... but not post. Maybe it will cut down on some the B.S. in here.
CAV
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they're being excluded from one room not the full bbs. and how exactly do you know we have a game with dwindling numbers? did hitech asked you to sit in on the last staff meeting?
semp
You are correct, I misread the OP idea. My bad.
As to your question concerning dwindling numbers....are you being serious?
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Non-payers can read... but not post. Maybe it will cut down on some the B.S. in here.
CAV
Less restrictive, but still leaves them having potential difficulties asking a question that the person making the original post is likely to see as they question would need to be posted in a new thread in a different forum.
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You are correct, I misread the OP idea. My bad.
As to your question concerning dwindling numbers....are you being serious?
of course I am serious. how do you know and is it legal for you to share that information with us.
semp
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of course I am serious. how do you know and is it legal for you to share that information with us.
semp
It is my opinion based solely on simple observation, so I somehow doubt it it's illegal for me to do share it.
I'm not being a "Doom & Gloomer". The numbers appear to be down from only a few years ago but I'm not running around wearing a "The End is Near" sign. I personally think it's due to the economy rather than competition and that the numbers will be back eventually.
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I'm not being a "Doom & Gloomer". The numbers appear to be down from only a few years ago but I'm not running around wearing a "The End is Near" sign. I personally think it's due to the economy rather than competition and that the numbers will be back eventually.
It's easier to blame the "economy" (Never mind that people are still spending tons of money on other games) then to admit that there are things that need to change.
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It is my opinion based solely on simple observation, so I somehow doubt it it's illegal for me to do share it.
I'm not being a "Doom & Gloomer". The numbers appear to be down from only a few years ago but I'm not running around wearing a "The End is Near" sign. I personally think it's due to the economy rather than competition and that the numbers will be back eventually.
well if you really notice the numbers are slightly up from last year. specially on fso and some drinking weekends (holidays :)). they're not like they were 4 years ago when we had 2 arenas but back then I lost a lot of friends not due to the game but to the economy.
but I'll really begin to worry if hitech has a post on the bb that his new airplane is for sale. then you will really know the game is going down hill. but up till then the only thing running down hill is bs :).
semp
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It's easier to blame the "economy" (Never mind that people are still spending tons of money on other games) then to admit that there are things that need to change.
Never claimed there isn't room for improvement. I just don't agree those things are the primary reasons which drive players away.
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+1
I have to say the most adversarial posts seem to come from people who aren't current subscribers and frequently are in the "get off my lawn" crowd.
Sure, they may be able to add some insight to why they left, and what they would like to see changed, but after a few years, we paying members get tired of hearing them complain about how hard it is to find the church that's still up in town.
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this members only room would hurt the game in the long run---people who are thinking about joining this game aka the 2 weekers--come to this forum for information--just because they don't post here doesen't mean they are not reading it......so no,we don't need a private bbs room...you are over ruled by your fellow players.
Nothing in the forum would change, all the existing forum rooms would remain the same. Only one additional room would exists in which the paying members would have write access, the non-paying public could read. They just couldn't post.
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well if you really notice the numbers are slightly up from last year. specially on fso and some drinking weekends (holidays :)). they're not like they were 4 years ago when we had 2 arenas but back then I lost a lot of friends not due to the game but to the economy.
but I'll really begin to worry if hitech has a post on the bb that his new airplane is for sale. then you will really know the game is going down hill. but up till then the only thing running down hill is bs :).
semp
I still luv you, semp. :D
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The problem is that you can't actually say that. It is entirely possible that the thing that would have helped them was posted in the subscribers only forum, and not in any of the other forums.
How do you propose to avoid that?
By allowing them read access only.
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Counter idea; Semp, Traveler and Midway have their own BBS away from the rest of us
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Counter idea; Semp, Traveler and Midway have their own BBS away from the rest of us
Thank you for not banishing me as well, Dolbs. :D
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By allowing them read access only.
As stated in reply to CAV when he said the same:
Less restrictive, but still leaves them having potential difficulties asking a question that the person making the original post is likely to see as they question would need to be posted in a new thread in a different forum.
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Counter idea; Semp, Traveler and Midway have their own BBS away from the rest of us
Now who is talking about exclusion? What's wrong with the idea of the non-paying public only being receiving read access in just this one room and not being able to post in the members only room?
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Oh no, don't get the wrong idea, yourself, semp and Midway will be included in your own BBS.
It's all in the aid of greater good, your BBS is just away from the rest of us. We are taking one for you guys excluding ourselves.
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I have to say the most adversarial posts seem to come from people who aren't current subscribers and frequently are in the "get off my lawn" crowd.
Sure, they may be able to add some insight to why they left, and what they would like to see changed, but after a few years, we paying members get tired of hearing them complain about how hard it is to find the church that's still up in town.
You kind of tipped your hat when you spoke of church being up. :old: This is a FREE country ....errr BBS :devil
A great fail example of what you are talking of here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361069.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,361069.0.html) One of the coolest players map makers, put out a request for old antiquated AH1 files to help him re make a favorite map from the MA. What if the one person who had the files or had vital information on those files was unable to read or post in the forum? Even worst, that one person felt that HTC had turned its back on old used to be subscribers "wascribers" and felt it was no longer his business to help with anything that is now considered dead wood.
:P I still say ignore list (squelch) option is much better. If you play, you have the option to detune 200 and even squelch individuals. Everyone is happy, only because now I can still talk to my friends across country and your precious ears are spared.
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As stated in reply to CAV when he said the same:
Less restrictive, but still leaves them having potential difficulties asking a question that the person making the original post is likely to see as they question would need to be posted in a new thread in a different forum.
They can ask the question in any other room . Just not the members only room.
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What you don't seem to get Traveler, is the randomness of the application you are proposing.
Say the criteria was not to allow players starting with Tr. Whereas Troglodor, Trepidacious, and Treacherous have all regularly been a nuisance. YOU .... Traveler are thinking to yourself what did I do to deserve this treatment?
YOU always follow the rules and only would like to be kept abreast of community news. On occasion, you have an idea that you believe would be beneficial, and others seem to agree (although you will ALWAYS have those that do NOT agree).
NO MORE OF THIS "THEY CAN POST ANYWHERE ELSE." Sounds more like you want country club environment with the doors closed on those you deem unworthy.
Now go sit down and THINK about is there "anywhere else" that you would like to have posted this thread? :headscratch:
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What you don't seem to get Traveler, is the randomness of the application you are proposing.
I thought what I was proposing was that all forums remain as they are now, that one additional room be added that only paying members can post in but everyone can read. That's not randomness, that is specific.
Say the criteria was not to allow players starting with Tr. Whereas Troglodor, Trepidacious, and Treacherous have all regularly been a nuisance. YOU .... Traveler are thinking to yourself what did I do to deserve this treatment?
not sure where you are going with that, but the only criteria that was mentioned was that for the members only room that only paying members could post. Everyone could read.
YOU always follow the rules and only would like to be kept abreast of community news. On occasion, you have an idea that you believe would be beneficial, and others seem to agree (although you will ALWAYS have those that do NOT agree).
You lost me on that one as well.
NO MORE OF THIS "THEY CAN POST ANYWHERE ELSE." Sounds more like you want country club environment with the doors closed on those you deem unworthy.
NO, they could post in any room they want, except in the room reserved for members only. They could read what was being discussed but that's it.
The benefit to the paying members would be that grips, wines, suggestions, and AH discussions would be between paying members with out the biased AH hatters that lurk in these boards now.
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In my world.... non-payers don't get to post anywhere.
Who cares what someone who isn't supporting the game with his/her $$$$ thinks.
CAV
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In my world.... non-payers don't get to post anywhere.
Who cares what someone who isn't supporting the game with his/her $$$$ thinks.
CAV
Because they might come back, we WANT numbers right?
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I thought what I was proposing was that all forums remain as they are now, that one additional room be added that only paying members can post in but everyone can read. That's not randomness, that is specific.
not sure where you are going with that, but the only criteria that was mentioned was that for the members only room that only paying members could post. Everyone could read.You lost me on that one as well.
NO, they could post in any room they want, except in the room reserved for members only. They could read what was being discussed but that's it.
The benefit to the paying members would be that grips, wines, suggestions, and AH discussions would be between paying members with out the biased AH hatters that lurk in these boards now.
That would just cause more trouble for HTC to deal with. Currently there aren't any restrictions (that I know of) on these forums, yet we have random posts on a weekly basis. Some to other players, when a PM would suffice, or to call each other out.. or to continue a discussion from another thread. That wouldn't magically change by adding an 'elite' forum. There are paying players who are just a jerk as some of those who aren't playing currently. Isolating a fair portion of the board members won't create a perfect utopia for discussion. You will simply see a smaller group of jerks more often :lol
Ignoring the trolls or non-payers is the best thing to do. "Feeding the trolls" by responding to them, gets you nowhere, and sometimes gets the thread de-railed and locked. I think that this isn't a good idea anyways. Because it isolates potential players, and the experience of the other players, paying or not.
-1 for this 'wish'.
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In my world.... non-payers don't get to post anywhere.
Who cares what someone who isn't supporting the game with his/her $$$$ thinks.
CAV
Maybe Dale. Think he is the one that determines that. Read more of what I have posted here. OR you could do what folks already DO, ignore posts and posters they don't agree with.
- I thought what I was proposing was that all forums remain as they are now, that one additional room be added that only paying members can post in but everyone can read. That's not randomness, that is specific. Ooops, my subscription just ran out this minute, better get that check in the mail so I can finish my answer to what Traveler is saying :rolleyes: Get it yet?
- not sure where you are going with that, but the only criteria that was mentioned was that for the members only room that only paying members could post. Everyone could read.You lost me on that one as well. Traveler I don't have any problem with you, or your behavior on the BBS. I simply do not agree that subscription has any direct relationship to the validity of ANY post, only the content of that post does. comprende
- NO, they could post in any room they want, except in the room reserved for members only. They could read what was being discussed but that's it. You obviously don't need such a filter, because you already have the ability to ignore any posts that you don't agree with or poster (see any of my other 3 posts especially the one showing where the forums were used to gain vital information that may actually benefit the whole community in the future).
- The benefit to the paying members would be that grips, wines, suggestions, and AH discussions would be between paying members with out the biased AH hatters that lurk in these boards now. Again, who is to determine what is and isn't legitimate discussion? It could be that HTC values the input from as many points of view as possible. Maybe some of those whines or gripes have helped to formulate the present state of game play. I have been around long enough to see that whether they were coincidences or not, HTC has made big game play changes that mirrored the opinions expressed on the forums.
Edit: Tinkles got it :aok
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Maybe Dale. Think he is the one that determines that. Read more of what I have posted here. OR you could do what folks already DO, ignore posts and posters they don't agree with.
"HTC has made big game play changes that mirrored the opinions expressed on the forums."
Edit: Tinkles got it :aok
And some of the wishes that were implemented were from those who weren't even subscribers at the time. :D
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Most of the points against the idea assume the whole forum would be affected.
Another private room wouldn't change a thing. Wishes would still be in the wish list etc.
Letting people read and not respond would just make them duplicate topics elsewhere.
Better to keep it private.
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Most of the points against the idea assume the whole forum would be affected.
Another private room wouldn't change a thing. Wishes would still be in the wish list etc.
Letting people read and not respond would just make them duplicate topics elsewhere.
Better to keep it private.
Traveler can always ask for a private forum and then add any active subscriber to his little private forum and he'll have his "Members Only" forum.
ack-ack
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Traveler can always ask for a private forum and then add any active subscriber to his little private forum and he'll have his "Members Only" forum.
ack-ack
Exactly.
Another wish granted. :D
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this members only room would hurt the game in the long run---people who are thinking about joining this game aka the 2 weekers--come to this forum for information--just because they don't post here doesen't mean they are not reading it......so no,we don't need a private bbs room...you are over ruled by your fellow players.
the two weekers would be allowed since they're on their two week trial.
semp
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Excellent idea.
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Bad idea because it would increase the work load of htc, someone would have to keep track of who has a current subscription and who doesn't. Also, a lot of the people we come here to laugh at probably aren't paid subscribers.
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Bad idea because it would increase the work load of htc, someone would have to keep track of who has a current subscription and who doesn't. Also, a lot of the people we come here to laugh at probably aren't paid subscribers.
They have to do that now, right? They know who has a subscription and who doesn't right now.
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Yeah, what exactly would be gained by this? Besides the general concept of a "forum only for subscribers", what EXACTLY would that do for us? How EXACTLY would that benefit the community?
The initial premise that non-subscribers' opinions are somehow less valid than a subscriber's is simply untrue. I see no need for this.
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They have to do that now, right? They who has a subscription and who doesn't right now.
But its not tied to the BBS, you dunce.
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Traveler can always ask for a private forum and then add any active subscriber to his little private forum and he'll have his "Members Only" forum.
ack-ack
couldn't be done, HTC does not release information as to who is a paying member or not. Also, there is no relationship between player names used in the game and names used in the forum. So your suggestion would not work.
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couldn't be done, HTC does not release information as to who is a paying member or not. Also, there is no relationship between player names used in the game and names used in the forum. So your suggestion would not work.
Neither would yours then.
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Neither would yours then.
Sure it would, because HTC knows who the subscribers are, that's the difference, and for entry into the private room in the forum you would have to provide that name.
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Sure it would, because HTC knows who the subscribers are, that's the difference, and for entry into the private room in the forum you would have to provide that name.
HTC has a record of active accounts. They don't keep track of which BBS members have an active account.
To do what you are asking, they would have to look at the IP addresses (and you can work around that as well) for both the game and the BBS, and sift through all of them, and match them up. All just so you can exclude some people you (incorrectly) feel are less entitled to give input.
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HTC has a record of active accounts. They don't keep track of which BBS members have an active account.
To do what you are asking, they would have to look at the IP addresses (and you can work around that as well) for both the game and the BBS, and sift through all of them, and match them up. All just so you can exclude some people you (incorrectly) feel are less entitled to give input.
No not at all, they someone on the BBS has a BBS ID and if they wish to enter the private room , they are challenged for their subscriber ID. HTC knows the valid Subscriber ID's.
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couldn't be done, HTC does not release information as to who is a paying member or not. Also, there is no relationship between player names used in the game and names used in the forum. So your suggestion would not work.
It would work and it does. Since you would be the one that would grant access, you can make the requirement that those that want to join your private forum have to provide their in game name. You can then check the stats to see if they've been playing recently.
ack-ack
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No not at all, they someone on the BBS has a BBS ID and if they wish to enter the private room , they are challenged for their subscriber ID. HTC knows the valid Subscriber ID's.
Fair enough. Though you still have yet to say how this will help the community.
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Fair enough. Though you still have yet to say how this will help the community.
Define community, are you talking about the community of paying customers or are you talking about the BBS community? They are two different sets of people. The benefit to the paying community is that they receive a perk, they can post in the members only forum room where the none paying community can't. The non-paying community can continue the use all the other forum rooms as they currently do, unchanged. The benefit, all the posts in the members only room come from paying members, those players with a vested interested in seeing AH be as successful as possible. The wines, grips, and suggestions in the members only forum room would be coming from the people that are paying the bills at AH and are the only reason that all the other forum rooms on the AH BBS and the game exists.
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Define community, are you talking about the community of paying customers or are you talking about the BBS community? They are two different sets of people. The benefit to the paying community is that they receive a perk, they can post in the members only forum room where the none paying community can't. The non-paying community can continue the use all the other forum rooms as they currently do, unchanged. The benefit, all the posts in the members only room come from paying members, those players with a vested interested in seeing AH be as successful as possible. The wines, grips, and suggestions in the members only forum room would be coming from the people that are paying the bills at AH and are the only reason that all the other forum rooms on the AH BBS and the game exists.
AS it has been stated before. If this was to happen you would effectively isolate a fair portion of the BBS. Their opinions do matter, because they can give unique insight as to why they left or things that may/should change. Informing other players and HTC alike. Why wouldn't HTC want their opinions? When if they regard them, they could get some subscribers back, and potentially earn new subscribers. While I understand your frustrations of people who 'don't pay, so they shouldn't have an opinion', that really isn't a fair shake to them either.
If it really bothers you, just add them to your BBS ignore list . :salute
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Define community, are you talking about the community of paying customers or are you talking about the BBS community? They are two different sets of people. The benefit to the paying community is that they receive a perk, they can post in the members only forum room where the none paying community can't. The non-paying community can continue the use all the other forum rooms as they currently do, unchanged. The benefit, all the posts in the members only room come from paying members, those players with a vested interested in seeing AH be as successful as possible. The wines, grips, and suggestions in the members only forum room would be coming from the people that are paying the bills at AH and are the only reason that all the other forum rooms on the AH BBS and the game exists.
I'm talking about the Aces High community at large. Those that subscribe but don't have a BBS account, those that subscribe and only read the BBS, those that subscribe and post, and those that only have a BBS account.
This is something we share, and all have in common, whether or not we can play. Some of my friends are on deployment right now, and don't maintain an account when they don't use it. Should their voice be muffled simply because they're serving their countries?
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I'm talking about the Aces High community at large. Those that subscribe but don't have a BBS account, those that subscribe and only read the BBS, those that subscribe and post, and those that only have a BBS account.
This is something we share, and all have in common, whether or not we can play. Some of my friends are on deployment right now, and don't maintain an account when they don't use it. Should their voice be muffled simply because they're serving their countries?
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My suggestion does not stop anyone from posting in the forums that currently exist. They would be able to read everything. They would not be able to post in the members only forum.
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AS it has been stated before. If this was to happen you would effectively isolate a fair portion of the BBS. Their opinions do matter, because they can give unique insight as to why they left or things that may/should change. Informing other players and HTC alike. Why wouldn't HTC want their opinions? When if they regard them, they could get some subscribers back, and potentially earn new subscribers. While I understand your frustrations of people who 'don't pay, so they shouldn't have an opinion', that really isn't a fair shake to them either.
If it really bothers you, just add them to your BBS ignore list . :salute
It doesn't isolate anyone, everyone can read and post in the forum, just not in the members only room.
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My suggestion does not stop anyone from posting in the forums that currently exist. They would be able to read everything. They would not be able to post in the members only forum.
And we fully understand this, BUT STILL SEE NO BENEFIT. The ideas of subscribers are not inherently better than those of non-subscribers, nor are they likely to be better.
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Some of you guys act like this would replace all the other forums.
Calm down.
Imagine a new forum called Traveler's Rest. Open to active players only.
Imagine 2 weeks passing.
Imagine the effect on the other forums.
Feel better now?
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Make it like most MMO games, anyone can read the forums but to post you need to be an active subscriber.
ack-ack
we would have missed Penguin and David Wales with that rule
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Some of you need to think about the impact of your hair brained ideas on the game before you go off posting senseless retardation.
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Some of you need to think about the impact of your hair brained ideas on the game before you go off posting senseless retardation.
How would zero impact hurt the game?
This is the wishlist. It's the proper forum for hair brained ideas. For insults not so much.
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How would zero impact hurt the game?
This is the wishlist. It's the proper forum for hair brained ideas. For insults not so much.
Back seat mod?
Know your role.
Im giving my opinion, dont like it, dont read it. got it? Get it? Good.
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Back seat mod?
Know your role.
Im giving my opinion, dont like it, dont read it. got it? Get it? Good.
Everyone in this thread gets to post their opinion. Then you make it special with insults because you don't like their ideas.
Now you want to criticize without being criticized for it. :lol
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Everyone in this thread gets to post their opinion. Then you make it special with insults because you don't like their ideas.
Now you want to criticize without being criticized for it. :lol
You might want to move along. That would be a good idea chief :aok
Its an ignorant idea that HTC has addressed many times before and gave reasons why.
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The OP asked for a private forum and we already have those. Were you insulting a different comment?
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The OP asked for a private forum and we already have those. Were you insulting a different comment?
And you are concerned with what I said, why?
Are you now the official AH bbs police patrol?
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We need more grown-ups.
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And you are concerned with what I said, why?
Are you now the official AH bbs police patrol?
There's an idea. :D
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to stop guys who haven't played in a couple of years but know exactly what is "wrong with the game "
There is a reason why they do not play, no?
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There is a reason why they do not play, no?
if they havent played in a couple of years how do they know "what is wrong with the game"? I havent played world of warplanes after the first 3 sorties I did. you dont see me over there whining about "what is wrong with the game", do you?
semp
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if they havent played in a couple of years how do they know "what is wrong with the game"? I havent played world of warplanes after the first 3 sorties I did. you dont see me over there whining about "what is wrong with the game", do you?
semp
But then there's no chance that WoWP will ever change whats wrong with it, given that whats wrong with the game is the very basis of its game dynamics. An arcade shooter presented in aircraft styling.
However, what our ex players perceive as being "wrong" with the game may change, given that I see a lot of them citing low numbers, side switch timer, and economy.
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But then there's no chance that WoWP will ever change whats wrong with it, given that whats wrong with the game is the very basis of its game dynamics. An arcade shooter presented in aircraft styling.
However, what our ex players perceive as being "wrong" with the game may change, given that I see a lot of them citing low numbers, side switch timer, and economy.
has your perception of the game changed? or you still whine about the same things you did 2 years ago?
semp
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We already have a members only BBS room, just have Skuzzy make yourself a Squadron Forum. Just because I haven't played in a year doesn't mean I am still not active in 6 different squad forums.
Reading the forums now and then is the only thing that kept me around, seeing whats new and whats going on, if it were made to where active players only can comment, thats fine, blocking it off entirely would be idiotic.
I honestly have no clue whats happened in game in the past year, only the TU-2 was added, I haven't even updated Aces since then.
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I honestly have no clue whats happened in game in the past year, only the TU-2 was added, I haven't even updated Aces since then.
New additions in past 12 months:
He-111 159
Ki-43-II 159
Jagdpanzer 38 (t) 162
Jagdpanzer IV/70 162
Jagdpanther 162
Yak-3 162
Yak-7b 162
Tu-2S 168
Central strats have been largely dezentralised again (yet no zone system), Me 163 has it's perk price doubled to 100 perks now, Spit 14 has been unperked. A few other minor perk / ENY adjustments happened as well. AI capability added to Custom Arenas / Special Events / AvA
That's basically all
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We already have a members only BBS room, just have Skuzzy make yourself a Squadron Forum. Just because I haven't played in a year doesn't mean I am still not active in 6 different squad forums.
Reading the forums now and then is the only thing that kept me around, seeing whats new and whats going on, if it were made to where active players only can comment, thats fine, blocking it off entirely would be idiotic.
I honestly have no clue whats happened in game in the past year, only the TU-2 was added, I haven't even updated Aces since then.
You clearly don't understand the wish. I'm not asking for a members only BBS. My wish is for one room on the BBS that would require anyone posting to be a paying member. That is very different then
a squad member only forum.
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See Rule #4
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has your perception of the game changed? or you still whine about the same things you did 2 years ago?
semp
What I feel is wrong with the game has no bearing on what others feel is wrong with the game.
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you act the same tarded way as you ever did, ya?
stay quiet or that ominose cheatin accousation PM goes straight to Skuzzy. Considering what a kind mode he is in nowadays, if i were you, i would be vewwy quiet.
send it in, please do so. since i already did.
semp
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send it in, please do so. since i already did.
semp
oooohhh, really? So you ask "what PM youre talking about" yet you have already sent it in that im cheating HTC by using the 2 weeks feature?
rofl
go for it, try to ban me, but youre making a fool of yourself. whadda sore loser hehe. and a hypocritical liar too
but its me being the rotten one any ways
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oooohhh, really? So you ask "what PM youre talking about" yet you have already sent it in that im cheating HTC by using the 2 weeks feature?
rofl
go for it, try to ban me, but youre making a fool of yourself. whadda sore loser hehe. and a hypocritical liar too
but its me being the rotten one any ways
no you said i was sending pms to multiple people when i only sent one. and the content of that pm I am not going to reveal in here. then you threaten me, to be quiet or you were going to "report me to skuzzy", not only on this thread but on two different ones.
let me quote it again for you:
stay quiet or that ominose cheatin accousation PM goes straight to Skuzzy. Considering what a kind mode he is in nowadays, if i were you, i would be vewwy quiet.
but just curious, what makes you say I am a sore loser? I dont remember ever being in any kind of competition with you. as for you calling me a "hypocritical liar", dude I am just quoting your own posts.
semp
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okie dokie