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Title: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Rich46yo on April 17, 2014, 02:26:50 PM
I always wondered why these IJN and IJA fighters have never been included in the game.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: ReVo on April 17, 2014, 04:51:35 PM
I always wondered why these IJN and IJA fighters have never been included in the game.

I can't think of a single good reason.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 17, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
Big +1, I want my bomber intercepter version of the ki61, as well as any new jap plane. I would also like to see the a5m added.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 17, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
I would also like to see the a5m added.

I would like to see the Claude added as well but sadly, it would only see the light of day in scenarios as it would be a hanger queen in any of the arenas.

ack-ack
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Saxman on April 17, 2014, 09:09:22 PM
I would like to see the Claude added as well but sadly, it would only see the light of day in scenarios as it would be a hanger queen in any of the arenas.

ack-ack

True, but to do a proper AVG scenario the A5M and Ki-27 are a necessity (TBH, we should probably have the G3M, as well). Not one A6M fought the Flying Tigers in China, and even the Oscars were much less common.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 17, 2014, 09:58:24 PM
I would like to see the Claude added as well but sadly, it would only see the light of day in scenarios as it would be a hanger queen in any of the arenas.

ack-ack

 +1 to the Claude as well
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Rogue9Volt on April 17, 2014, 10:46:47 PM
I'll +1 any Japanese planes, I've grown quite fond of the KI's and the A6's. 
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Tank-Ace on April 17, 2014, 10:48:20 PM
Ki-44!!!! Also the Ki-100 and J2M would be nice. The B6N, B7A, and D4Y would all be quite nice as well. The B7A would actually be pretty good.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Vudu15 on April 18, 2014, 01:58:17 AM
Id fly an A5M in the Mains.  :t
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 18, 2014, 02:52:46 AM
The B7A would actually be pretty good.

B7A would be perked and most would use it not as a dive/torpedo bomber but as a field defense fighter since unloaded with ordnance it was able to out turn a A6M5.

ack-ack
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: RotBaron on April 18, 2014, 03:01:55 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 18, 2014, 07:39:10 AM
B7A would be perked and most would use it not as a dive/torpedo bomber but as a field defense fighter since unloaded with ordnance it was able to out turn a A6M5.

ack-ack

  That is why I fly the A6M3 or A6M2 instead if the 5, it is the worst zero of handling. Let the B7A TRY and fight my A6M2   :D
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: -ammo- on April 18, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
The B7A could out turn an A6M??

I don't think this AC should even be considered for inclusion until other higher priority AC are added.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Tank-Ace on April 18, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
The B7A could out turn an A6M??

I don't think this AC should even be considered for inclusion until other higher priority AC are added.

Like your D23  :rolleyes:?
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Rich46yo on April 18, 2014, 03:12:08 PM
Both fighters were built in significant numbers, saw significant action, and won significant respect from the allies who faced them. These are late war aircrafts that would see significant use. I occasionaly fly the KI-84 and find it impressive.

Was there not a version with 4 20mm cannon? Would such an equipped KI-84 meets the rules to be in the game or was it only a field mod?
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: RotBaron on April 18, 2014, 03:15:34 PM
Both fighters were built in significant numbers, saw significant action, and won significant respect from the allies who faced them. These are late war aircrafts that would see significant use. I occasionaly fly the KI-84 and find it impressive.

Was there not a version with 4 20mm cannon? Would such an equipped KI-84 meets the rules to be in the game or was it only a field mod?

iirc there was a J2M variant w/ 4 20's that saw action

there was also one with an upfiring 20mm shoot bombers from below  :D
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: -ammo- on April 18, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
I don't think this AC should even be considered for inclusion until other higher priority AC are added.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Slade on April 18, 2014, 04:04:59 PM
+1
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Karnak on April 18, 2014, 04:19:35 PM
The B7A could out turn an A6M??

I don't think this AC should even be considered for inclusion until other higher priority AC are added.
B7A is indeed way, way down the priority list.  Yes, below the P-47D-23.

Ki-44 is fairly high up though.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Saxman on April 18, 2014, 05:15:55 PM
B7A is indeed way, way down the priority list.  Yes, below the P-47D-23.

Ki-44 is fairly high up though.

I'd say the Ki-44 and Ki-45 should be added well before the Ki-100 and J2M. The Ki-45 especially fills a significant gap (Japanese heavy fighter, which is currently filled by the 110C is events) and the Ki-44 rounds out the mid-war period quite nicely. And there were slightly more Ki-44s produced than J2Ms and Ki-100s COMBINED. (~1200 vs ~600 and 400, respectively). Only Fewer than 150 J2M2s were built, with theJ2M3 being the representative type.

I'd also like to see:

Additional Ki-43 armament options to allow for the -I and -III
N1K1-J, which I believe was the most representative type. Fewer of the N1K2-Js were produced.
B6N and D4Y to give the Japanese a much more competitive set of carrier bombers for the mid-war period.
Ki-21 as an early-war IJAAF bomber
Ki-49 would provide for a mid-war IJAAF bomber.

And as I think I mentioned earlier in this thread, I wouldn't mind the A5M, Ki-27, and G3M for scenario usage.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Seadog36 on April 18, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
Like your D23  :rolleyes:?

Bingo great idea!
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Coalcat1 on April 18, 2014, 06:36:09 PM
I'd say the Ki-44 and Ki-45 should be added well before the Ki-100 and J2M. The Ki-45 especially fills a significant gap (Japanese heavy fighter, which is currently filled by the 110C is events) and the Ki-44 rounds out the mid-war period quite nicely. And there were slightly more Ki-44s produced than J2Ms and Ki-100s COMBINED. (~1200 vs ~600 and 400, respectively). Only Fewer than 150 J2M2s were built, with theJ2M3 being the representative type.

I'd also like to see:

Additional Ki-43 armament options to allow for the -I and -III
N1K1-J, which I believe was the most representative type. Fewer of the N1K2-Js were produced.
B6N and D4Y to give the Japanese a much more competitive set of carrier bombers for the mid-war period.
Ki-21 as an early-war IJAAF bomber
Ki-49 would provide for a mid-war IJAAF bomber.

And as I think I mentioned earlier in this thread, I wouldn't mind the A5M, Ki-27, and G3M for scenario usage.

 Hell, add the last 3 in the MA, I'll use em all the time  :D
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 18, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
The B7A could out turn an A6M??

I don't think this AC should even be considered for inclusion until other higher priority AC are added.

Yep.  Japanese flight tests showed the B7A,with out ordnance, out maneuvered and out performed the A6M5.

ack-ack
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Blinder on April 19, 2014, 08:07:08 AM
definitely a +1 for the Raiden.  :aok

(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/images/j2m3raiden-2.jpg)

I fly this plane sometimes in the VATSIM via FSX. It handles like a dream. I really enjoy flying this fighter.

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?searchid=23507320 (http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?searchid=23507320)
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Rich46yo on April 19, 2014, 10:05:41 AM
+1 KI-45. But I want the 37mm cannon one.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Saxman on April 19, 2014, 03:24:54 PM
+1 KI-45. But I want the 37mm cannon one.

Armament packages could do a LOT for expanding out the Japanese plane set. IE, the Ki-61 you could probably squeeze out a couple different models just by adding the different gun packages that were used. And as I said, the Ki-43 you could easily add the -I and -III variants just with armament options.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Karnak on April 19, 2014, 03:45:57 PM
Armament packages could do a LOT for expanding out the Japanese plane set. IE, the Ki-61 you could probably squeeze out a couple different models just by adding the different gun packages that were used. And as I said, the Ki-43 you could easily add the -I and -III variants just with armament options.
We have the -III armament.  The Ho-5 armed version never made it to combat.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Saxman on April 19, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
We have the -III armament.  The Ho-5 armed version never made it to combat.

Odd, because ours is identified as the -II.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Karnak on April 19, 2014, 07:13:12 PM
Odd, because ours is identified as the -II.
The armaments for the Ki-43-III and Ki-43-II were the same.  Two 12.7mm Ho-103 machine guns.

The Ki-43-III did have significantly better performance than the -II though.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Shifty on April 19, 2014, 07:58:46 PM
The armaments for the Ki-43-II and Ki-43-II were the same.

Well I would hope so.  :P
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Karnak on April 19, 2014, 08:23:56 PM
Well I would hope so.  :P
Post has been fixed.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Tank-Ace on April 19, 2014, 08:43:13 PM
We should have gotten the -III, so I could more easily pwn LW aircraft that presume to close within 800yds.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Shifty on April 20, 2014, 10:14:25 AM
Post has been fixed.

I looked at it three times trying to figure out if I was missing something. At my age you can't be too sure.  ;)
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Karnak on April 20, 2014, 12:19:21 PM
Does anybody have documentation on the American test flights of the J2M?  I've heard our pilots praised its handling, but I'd like to read the actual report.
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Rich46yo on April 20, 2014, 12:42:07 PM
Never had a bad run in Japanese hardware. I really should have flown them more. That attacker aircraft with the 37mm would be a juicy inclusion, actually now i want it more then the two I started the thread with. :D
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: Mitsu on April 20, 2014, 07:20:55 PM
I want to see all of them in Aces High III!!! ;)
Title: Re: KI-100 and J2M2s.
Post by: save on April 21, 2014, 07:12:43 PM
just put 2 more cannons on the ki84 (with eny of 5)  and and add the ki-44