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Title: Microsoft's Latest Debacle
Post by: Widewing on April 19, 2014, 08:09:12 AM
As most know, Microsoft has ended support for their old XP operating system. This despite at least 20% of computers in use still run XP.

I have an old machine still running XP. This machine is mostly used by my grand daughter when she visits. It runs fine. I don't plan to upgrade it anytime soon.

Tuesday night, while she was playing a game, it locked up. I rebooted it and it would not start Windows.

I finally got around to addressing it yesterday. It started fine in safe mode....

I went online to see if I could find a fix. What I found was startling.

It seems that if you run XP and use Security Essentials as your AV, the previous update to XP and the anti-virus have a conflict. Countless numbers of users, worldwide, suddenly lost all functionality. Reports and stories were all over the various tech sites. Many were blaming Microsoft for installing a poison pill into the latest update, to force upgrading to a later OS. I don't believe Microsoft could be that stupid, but who knows for sure.

Whatever the cause, the result was not good for Microsoft.

The solution was simple enough.... Start in safe mode and disable Security Essentials. Reboot Windows normally and uninstall Security Essentials. I then used my spare license and installed Avast. Problem solved.

So, keep the above in mind should your older XP machine cease to function or load the OS. Microsoft did release one more XP update yesterday, which I assume was a patch to fix the conflict.  
Title: Re: Microsoft's Latest Debacle
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
As most know, Microsoft has ended support for their old XP operating system. This despite at least 20% of computers in use still run XP.

I have an old machine still running XP. This machine is mostly used by my grand daughter when she visits. It runs fine. I don't plan to upgrade it anytime soon.

Tuesday night, while she was playing a game, it locked up. I rebooted it and it would not start Windows.

I finally got around to addressing it yesterday. It started fine in safe mode....

I went online to see if I could find a fix. What I found was startling.

It seems that if you run XP and use Security Essentials as your AV, the previous update to XP and the anti-virus have a conflict. Countless numbers of users, worldwide, suddenly lost all functionality. Reports and stories were all over the various tech sites. Many were blaming Microsoft for installing a poison pill into the latest update, to force upgrading to a later OS. I don't believe Microsoft could be that stupid, but who knows for sure.

Whatever the cause, the result was not good for Microsoft.

The solution was simple enough.... Start in safe mode and disable Security Essentials. Reboot Windows normally and uninstall Security Essentials. I then used my spare license and installed Avast. Problem solved.

So, keep the above in mind should your older XP machine cease to function or load the OS. Microsoft did release one more XP update yesterday, which I assume was a patch to fix the conflict.  

Linux would be much safer option for you unless there are some specific windows games that your grand daughter plays.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Latest Debacle
Post by: guncrasher on April 19, 2014, 04:22:57 PM
which version of linux would you recommend.   I installed ubuntu 14.04 and I have no sound and it looks like now something is wrong as it keeps giving me an error that needs to be reported.  I know the no sound is due to my sound card as it is one that isnt supported or compatible.

but I just started messing with it and I am still learning.

semp
Title: Re: Microsoft's Latest Debacle
Post by: Saxman on April 19, 2014, 05:10:23 PM
We had to support a bunch of Ubuntu workstations at my last job, and after that nightmare I can safely say I will NOT every willingly install it on any system I own. I don't care what the elitists say, I'd buy a frelling MAC before I ever installed a Linux-based OS.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Latest Debacle
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 19, 2014, 06:51:30 PM
Linux is getting easyer to set up every year. On many computers its plug&play, everything you need is automatically set up. Ubuntu is one of the easyest ones. I would recommend Xubuntu, Zorin or Sabayon linux for someone who is used to work with XP.

If you have a friend who knows a little bit of linux, he can set the box up for you and you'll have a trouble free computer for web surfing and many other tasks. And best of all it's 100% free.
Title: Re: Microsoft's Latest Debacle
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 19, 2014, 06:52:28 PM
We had to support a bunch of Ubuntu workstations at my last job, and after that nightmare I can safely say I will NOT every willingly install it on any system I own. I don't care what the elitists say, I'd buy a frelling MAC before I ever installed a Linux-based OS.

I'm curious to hear what sort of problems exactly did you have?
Title: Re: Microsoft's Latest Debacle
Post by: SilverZ06 on April 19, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
I like Linux Mint better than Ubuntu.  The cinnamon desktop will be very familiar for windows users.