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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Getback on April 23, 2014, 11:07:14 PM
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Call it a whine and maybe I'm tired but the game play is horrific. You get 30k+ bombers coming over. Even if you get to that alt the windshere throws your aim way off. You run to the factories to protect them and the bombers bail. People come over at 30k and just hang over you. I call them tourists. You lose a base near a strat and you will never have radar, ordnance, troops or whatever again. Yeah, well why don't you defend? You can't if you're not on and at work.
If you fly knights they don't do missions. They will join a horde now and then to furball. You can see them all over a base and the base never gets captured. Happens time and time again.
It's just terrible game play, horrific really.
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I still have fun and enjoy the times I get to fly. Just take a break, I've been burned out on it before as well. Hopefully stepping back from the cartoon war for a little bit might give some perspective and you can enjoy the game once again.
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I agree. Im thinking hard on leaving
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I had lots of fun :old:
You need to cheer up
The Yak9T is the future :old:
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Not to long ago I posted the same thread and I got some good advise and good pm's ..I took a break only made it 48 hours before I started getting the DT's ..try to fly another country for a while switch from gv to air or visa versa, try mid or early war or da.there is fun to be had..:)
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There is no windshear at 30k+. The last change in layers happens at 28k so wind will be not harming your aim when attacking any bombers above approximately 28.5k ;)
But I do somewhat agree with the notion the strat effects can be very unbalanced now, depending on map. On some maps (most notably ndisles) some key factories are in positions which makes it impossible to mount any meaningful defense at all. Leading to almost permanent 2h+ downtimes for crucial items all over the map. There are also some other issues connected to it, but that would be beyond the scope and intention of your original whine :noid
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The spellchecker found 10 spelling errors in my first draft. :ahand Guess it's time to go to bed now (http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/sleep/t2256.gif)
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I agree. Im thinking hard on leaving
You think too much to have fun.
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A cashew is a nut.
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I fly Knight and we got rolled tonight. Had a blast.
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. . . If you fly knights they don't do missions. They will join a horde now and then to furball. You can see them all over a base and the base never gets captured. Happens time and time again. . . .
This is getting old. All countries do the same at one time or another. If you are defending, I am afraid the best answer is just abandon the base. Most likely they will never take it anyway .
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Still seems fun to me. :airplane:
Why don't you change your plane/flying style/comfort zone/country/vehicle/and/or attitude? Or just take a break.
None of these "the game sucks" threads are helping the community or the people who post them.
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Still seems fun to me. :airplane:
Why don't you change your plane/flying style/comfort zone/country/vehicle/and/or attitude? Or just take a break.
None of these "the game sucks" threads are helping the community or the people who post them.
QFT
:cheers: Oz
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Who cares? Up a fighter and fight. So Simpo.
Or, put Me163B's in near every strat so we can shift the whine gearbox over to bomber pilots.
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I'm still having fun. Mornings are quite fun from about 6AM to 10AM mountain time.
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I don't have the time to fly enough to have all the fun I wish. :furious
Are the ones unhappy able to fly every day? Get outside the sun is shining! :cool:
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What most people tend to forget that even though on one specific map a factory or two may be up close and easily hit, and that whichever chess piece has ownership of that factory gets pummeled easy enough, but that the map will end sooner or later and another chess piece will get the honors of defending/resupplying that factory.
Personally, I've has more fun and I seem to have more engagements in intercepting factory raiders. There are more lower level bombers and attackers that when the factories were grouped together.
So I'd like to take this moment to remind everyone on the "sky is falling/game play sucks now" bandwagon to stop a second, free your mind, and your bellybutton will follow. Relax. YOU determine your experience in AH. Not anyone else.
Trust me when I say I too get annoyed by the bomb-n-bail types, or the gv circle jerk camp fest, or the bananas that hop in their perfume smelling easy mode planes (La7, Spit16, P51) and run run run instead of engaging. It gets old. But, I don't stop and let THEM drag me down. I move on and find other things to do and on that note I always succeed. :aok
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or the bananas that hop in their perfume smelling easy mode planes (La7, Spit16, P51) and run run run instead of engaging. It gets old.
1. The Spixteen tops out on 344mph on the deck with WEP. So there are a lot of planes you can choose from that it absolutely can't run away from, if running Spixteens are a problem. I doubt Spixteens running *away* is anyones' actual problem with them, however :devil
2. The P-51 can actually be caught by numerous planes in the set, particularly with its low acceleration giving it troubles. And if you think it belongs in a list of easy mode planes, I will gladly duel your P-51 while flying a 1942 Spitfire IX sometime :D
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First off it's not a whine if you have a deep voice. But it does get old with bombing and bailing and the tourists.
However some of you are correct. Sometimes you have to sit back and look at other options.
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Getback
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMy_w5HsfdI
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First off it's not a whine if you have a deep voice. But it does get old with bombing and bailing and the tourists.
However some of you are correct. Sometimes you have to sit back and look at other options.
Switch countrys for a tour.............. :salute
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Switch countrys for a tour.............. :salute
My C.O., Rud3boi, has been talking about this. Next time he says something I'll put my 2 cents in.
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Rotating sides is eye opening, we do it regularly and it does make a huge difference.
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Switch countrys for a tour.............. :salute
Do this.. best advice I've found for shaking things up.
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I myself love the flight model and like the people who play the game. But if they dont get this new graphics engine going, and do something with the maps, this game is heading for trouble.
They have to attract new players and, most of all, bring back the old ones. These big maps were great with 400 or 500 players but with 130 they absolutely suck.
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2. The P-51 can actually be caught by numerous planes in the set, particularly with its low acceleration giving it troubles. And if you think it belongs in a list of easy mode planes, I will gladly duel your P-51 while flying a 1942 Spitfire IX sometime :D
The way it's flown 99.7% of the time in the MA, it's definitely easy-mode.
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The way it's flown 99.7% of the time in the MA, it's definitely easy-mode.
The way it's flown by 99.7%, maybe they don't get shot down that often but they are lucky to get one kill per hour. And if they feel the need to fly the thing that way, that means the machine probably ain't easy mode. Any 1945 plane labeled "easy mode" should be able to easily stomp any 1942 plane, wouldn't you say? Otherwise it seems a bizarre use of the phrase "easy mode".
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This is getting old. All countries do the same at one time or another. If you are defending, I am afraid the best answer is just abandon the base. Most likely they will never take it anyway .
Knights not doing missions is whats old. Also, arrogant fighter pilots cocooned in selfish dweeberry is very old. :old:
carry on
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The way it's flown by 99.7%, maybe they don't get shot down that often but they are lucky to get one kill per hour. And if they feel the need to fly the thing that way, that means the machine probably ain't easy mode. Any 1945 plane labeled "easy mode" should be able to easily stomp any 1942 plane, wouldn't you say? Otherwise it seems a bizarre use of the phrase "easy mode".
I doubt it's kill per hour is 1 or less.
Easy mode as I use it, is defined as a plane that has high survivability/high lethality due to a/c performance factors that the pilot inherits by virtue of climbing in the cockpit.
Its maneuverability at top speed and in top downhill speed and high speed turning ability make it an easy killing platform. It has zero defect turning ability, great flaps that are easy to get accustomed to, good zoom climb, easy to handle stall characteristics and an unapologetic gun package. Its very durable against most ammunition fired at it and is one of the few planes that can dictate the tempo of the fight. It fights nicely at all alts, better at some than others but progresses evenly through most altitudes but certainly outclasses 80% of the planeset above 20K.
The year of our lord vs the year of our lord is a poor comparison for whether something is easy mode. There are a number of pilots that have mastered the 51's ability low and slow. The question is, why don't others take the time to do it? The answer is why would they? They can rack up tremendous victory totals by simply exploiting its advantages and have to learn not-so-much.
Yes, easy mode.
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I doubt it's kill per hour is 1 or less.
Easy mode as I use it, is defined as a plane that has high survivability/high lethality due to a/c performance factors that the pilot inherits by virtue of climbing in the cockpit.
I exaggerate, but a too timidly flown P-51 always gains a little in k/d ratio for a huge drop in k/t.
Survivability yes, lethality no, 'fraid not. An old HurriIIC is far more lethal both in terms of guns and maneuvering abilities *once actually engaged*. The P-51D can avoid being engaged easier, which is important in real life, far less so as an argument for "easy mode" in a game where the point is to have fun in engagements.
Its maneuverability at top speed and in top downhill speed and high speed turning ability make it an easy killing platform.
Here we come to the myth of the "high speed turning ability." Yes the P-51 can generate enough G to hit the blackout limit at anything over about 250 mph, but so can every other WWII plane in the set. Two planes going the same speed and pulling the same G load in the turn are producing exactly the same rate and radius at turn. No advantage the the P-51 here.
No offense to you personally Changeup, but it seems like this basic bit of physics gets explained on this forum at least once a month, and still it never filters down into the community at large. Again, same speed+same G load in a turn means identical rate and radius. Most planes in the set can generate blackout Gs to at least 400mph IAS, but that already way too fast to stand much chance of hitting anything. There is no advantage for the P-51 in high speed, only parity.
It has zero defect turning ability
Excuse me? What does this phrase even mean? The P-51 has one of the highest stall speeds, largest minimum turn radii, and worst sustained turn rates in the game.
, great flaps that are easy to get accustomed to,
Examining the relevant testing data will reveal that the P-51's flaps do not reduce turn radius of the P-51 by anywhere near as great a percentage as flaps do for the F4U, P-38, or P-47. Which is to say, virtually every plane equipped with comparable purpose-designed maneuvering flaps is getting a lot more benefit out of said flaps. One notch improves turn rate and radius, two notches improves radius at the expense of rate, and beyond that flaps in the P-51 are adding drag much more quickly than they tighten a turn.
good zoom climb,
easy to handle stall characteristics
It stalls pretty viciously, although there is plenty of warning.
and an unapologetic gun package.
"Unapologetic"? Again, what does this even mean? It is an adequate, not great gun package for this particular plane, and does end up frustrating lots of players lots of the time, me included. I'm a big fan of Latrobe's videos, I was watching them this morning. Watch and compare the P-51D video he has up on Youtube to his "Decision making in a fight" video in the 109F. In the P-51D video you will see many bandits eating his lead but either escaping damaged or surviving and then dying because they stall and crash into the water. In the 109F video, the same sort of flying against multiple opponents, the airplanes are destroyed outright. An the 109F isn't generally considered a heavy hitter. Same pilot, good shot, completely different results from the two gun packages.
It fights nicely at all alts, better at some than others but progresses evenly through most altitudes but certainly outclasses 80% of the planeset above 20K.
The P-51D does have a rather brilliant sweet spot from 8-12K where it cruises a lot faster than most, albeit it takes about a sector to get up to that full cruise speed. Getting above that alt its speed drops and it's horsepower suffers until about 18K. Indeed above 20K it is a great plane again, but that is above the vast majority of action in the MA. Who climbs to 20K?
The year of our lord vs the year of our lord is a poor comparison for whether something is easy mode.
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A plane from the Late-war set we're going to call "easy mode" should enjoy at least equality in 1v1 dogfights with HurriIIs, SpitIXs, F4U1s, Hellcats, 109Fs and Gs, P-38s, and anything else the Early to MidWar era can offer.
There are a number of pilots that have mastered the 51's ability low and slow.
I've scrimmaged it tons in maneuvering fights in the Furball lake against everything. My conclusion: At a disadvantage against nearly everything and often unable to turn gross mistakes by the opponent into victory due to lack slow speed maneuverability, climb/acceleration, and cannons.
The question is, why don't others take the time to do it?
Likely because they try to do it and end up concluding it is almost hopeless. Then they either go back to Spits and other maneuverable planes or prosecute a pure BnZ in the 51.
They can rack up tremendous victory totals by simply exploiting its advantages and have to learn not-so-much.
Yes, easy mode.
Sometimes I fly it "smart"...sometimes I fly it "stupid". Either way, I've been doing this since 2006, and I still feel any sortie I can get 3 fighting kills in the P-51 is a good one. As pure BnZ fighters, the Dora and the P-47M beat the pants off the 51 due to firepower and roll rate. The Dora's amazing engine allows it to actually build energy in a timely manner and keep an E advantage over multiple bandits, while a P-51 while actually fighting is in a declining energy state. And the P-47 beats the 51 as a dogfighter as well. So where's the "easy mode"? Is there a button to turn it on in the cockpit somewhere I'm missing?
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I left the game for reasons and I didnt run to the boards to bash HTC or piss and moan like a little ...... girl.
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At least you get to play the game. This semester has been so stressful for me. I have to keep telling myself only a few more weeks to get through these long days.
Enjoy the game, don't let others ruin your fun. If you find it frustrating then log off and do something else for awhile. Or just take a break from the game all together. I left in December and I have been itching to return, as soon as my scholastics are finished I am renewing my subscription.
:cheers:
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I left the game for reasons and I didnt run to the boards to bash HTC or piss and moan like a little ...... girl.
I don't want to quit the game, and most of the people complaining atm don't either I suspect.. They want to *play* the game, an inexplicable policy is effectively preventing them from doing so for many hours a day, so they are getting frustrated.
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MIDWAR !! I've spent some time there recently. usually only around 20 people max.. but easy to find a fight, and very few dweebs :D
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MIDWAR !! I've spent some time there recently. usually only around 20 people max.. but easy to find a fight, and very few dweebs :D
Midwar is a joke. When you find someone to fight, they run off to the other side of the map where they can attack a base unmolested without fear of defenders.
ack-ack
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Midwar is a joke. When you find someone to fight, they run off to the other side of the map where they can attack a base unmolested without fear of defenders.
ack-ack
Indeed. Once it was the best arena we had. Last time I was in there some guy in B-17s bailed out when I came within icon range of him in an Me-410, then told me I "didn't know how the game is played" when I gave him a much deserved mocking.
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Midwar is a joke. When you find someone to fight, they run off to the other side of the map where they can attack a base unmolested without fear of defenders.
ack-ack
Totally not true. granted there are newbs who come in to practice, but the regulars in there, the ones avoiding the MA hordes don't run from any fight. the only problem ive encountered is the occasional squad that likes to come in and steam roll bases for fun. other than that it's normally a pretty fun arena.
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i wished i had more time for the game , would love to spend a full weekend just getting involved with furballs , gv'ing , bombing , taking bases , reading 200 fervor
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200 fervor?? Yall got the wrong game son..
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I don't want to quit the game, and most of the people complaining atm don't either I suspect.. They want to *play* the game, an inexplicable policy is effectively preventing them from doing so for many hours a day, so they are getting frustrated.
That is the main reason I didnt resub. But I didnt come here whining. I figured HTC would deal with it eventually. I knew it wouldn't go over very well.
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Midwar is a joke. When you find someone to fight, they run off to the other side of the map where they can attack a base unmolested without fear of defenders.
ack-ack
it hasn't changed much then over the years
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I don't want to quit the game, and most of the people complaining atm don't either I suspect.. They want to *play* the game, an inexplicable policy is effectively preventing them from doing so for many hours a day, so they are getting frustrated.
+1
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Call it a whine and maybe I'm tired but the game play is horrific. You get 30k+ bombers coming over. Even if you get to that alt the windshere throws your aim way off. People come over at 30k and just hang over you. I call them tourists. You lose a base near a strat and you will never have radar, ordnance, troops or whatever again.
It's just terrible game play, horrific really.
Some people cry about lack of realism. I see others cry because of it. Who ever heard of bombers at 30K or the destruction of strategic resources? Never happened in real war.
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I have a perfect solution for any players who want to play less: please transfer that time to me so that I can play more. I have lots of fun and want to fly more but need more time to do so. Thank you for your support. :aok
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I just wish I could play again. I miss the game, the people, FSO's, pretty much everything about it.
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I wish I could play later in the evening. 0330 comes early so my days off are a treat cause I can play until 2200 or so.
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Game is what you make of it. There are a hundred different things you can do in MA to have fun. If you are slave to only 1-2 types of gameplay in MA I agree game will get redundant. Turn yourself into a jack of all trades. Also I would suggest as others have on here of switching countries every once in a while. I rotate at the end of each month. You will find that there a good folks on all countries, and that each counties has its own "Style" of game play. :salute
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Just take a break, I've been burned out on it before as well. Hopefully stepping back from the cartoon war for a little bit might give some perspective and you can enjoy the game once again.
Truer words were never spoken.....i'm in the middle of a long break now, everytime after a break....it's fun again.
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I have been playing some Playstation recently having had one for xmas.
Never really been too interested in consoles but I have to say in comparison with AH the games are absolutely horrible.
In AH I can pretty much go anywhere and do anything I like at any time, there are no ridiculous avenues that have to be followed in order to progress, if someone kills me in AH I can't go back and win by just repeatedly bodging a single button which defeats their attacks, and whilst both are about the most efficient black holes for 8 hours of your life, I would much rather be flying around doing what I want rather than following a route set out by programming :old: