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Title: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 05:14:28 PM
If your high in the sky at 15,000 ft.. and you encounter, say four 109k4's.. which plane are you in and why.. I want to hear interesting answers.. don't tell me a story now i'm 33 years old for godsakes.. but a good answer.. and bear76 you are banned from posting here
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: olds442 on April 29, 2014, 05:18:38 PM
ME262.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Volron on April 29, 2014, 05:19:54 PM
When that happens, usually it's when I decided to up the damn Lancaster. :bhead
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: RedBull1 on April 29, 2014, 05:23:02 PM
a 109k4, come at me broz

Because fighting 4 k4's alone in mine actually does sound like a fun challenge :aok
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Latrobe on April 29, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
Nothing. Because Im at 5K or lower!  :P

Only reason Im ever at 15K or higher is because I had to chase someone up there.  :)
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: BuckShot on April 29, 2014, 05:49:04 PM
If I was in a Ta or another high alt plane, I'd try to drag them even higher and hit them when they start floundering.

Then again, I'm really good at getting shot down so maybe that's not a good tip.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Bear76 on April 29, 2014, 05:50:12 PM
 :P
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
o bear i missed u so.. lmao  :old:
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Wiley on April 29, 2014, 05:56:56 PM
If your high in the sky at 15,000 ft.. and you encounter, say four 109k4's.. which plane are you in and why.. I want to hear interesting answers.. don't tell me a story now i'm 33 years old for godsakes.. but a good answer.. and bear76 you are banned from posting here

If I'm at 15k, I'm still on climbout.  I could be in anything, because I like to fly pretty much anything.  Whatever I'm in, I'm going to try to kill them.

Wiley.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
I'd go with ole betsy f4u-4..  always had the best luck with her.. would dive and pull away from them and turn and burn on the deck.. if you can get a few popped or down great.. if not ruuuuuuuuun home!! lol
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: 68ZooM on April 29, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
well it would be a good challenge in a P38j keep your E up and fight'em vertical get him to hang on their props and fall.  but if there 4 skilled pilots you would hope they'd want to go one on one with you.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Triton28 on April 29, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
Bear, please stop letting your monkey out of his cage.  He's going to hurt himself one day and you'll just end up blaming yourself.

Thanks,

Triton28
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: mtnman on April 29, 2014, 06:12:13 PM
If your high in the sky at 15,000 ft.. and you encounter, say four 109k4's.. which plane are you in and why.. I want to hear interesting answers.. don't tell me a story now i'm 33 years old for godsakes.. but a good answer.. and bear76 you are banned from posting here

F4U-1A, or maybe the F4U-4.

Why?  Because they're hand's down the best planes in the game, and they're all I fly.

Besides, that's not terrible odds; there's got to be a reason there are 4 of them all together...  They probably rely on numbers over skill, and numbers are generally easier to deal with than skill is!
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 06:21:11 PM
Bear, please stop letting your monkey out of his cage.  He's going to hurt himself one day and you'll just end up blaming yourself.

Thanks,

Triton28

 :D
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 06:40:32 PM
well, just made a payment on the ole credit card.. should be able to get this in full swing tommorrow...  :joystick:
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: caldera on April 29, 2014, 07:44:44 PM
F4U-1A, or maybe the F4U-4.

Why?  Because they're hand's down the best planes in the game, and they're all I fly. Besides, that's not terrible odds; there's got to be a reason there are 4 of them all together...  They probably rely on numbers over skill, and numbers are generally easier to deal with than skill is!


You really live life on the edge.  ;)
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 08:07:26 PM
Honestly the f4u-4 is the best in the game..  Why?? Don't even have to ask.. more like use it.. the only point you'll find..
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Butcher on April 29, 2014, 08:18:08 PM
What difference does it matter what plane you are in, fight until you die and figure out where you screwed up.

Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
4 v 1 pretty much done from here man.. sorry that is true      with a nod to u.s. engineering tho.. you had the option of egressing to a safer position..   :headscratch:
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: mtnman on April 29, 2014, 08:29:11 PM

You really live life on the edge.  ;)

Not going to argue with you; I can't help it if the only WWII plane I have more than a passing interest in also happens to be the best...  

Do you "live life on the edge"?

Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: mtnman on April 29, 2014, 08:31:48 PM
4 v 1 pretty much done from here man.. sorry

Seriously???

It sounds like you have the wrong mentality to be a successful fighter pilot in AH!

The thought that I might lose never once crossed my mind; I expect to win every engagement!  Once in a while I'm not proven correct, I suppose, but I'm at least a little surprised in those instances.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on April 29, 2014, 08:39:23 PM
Seriously???

It sounds like you have the wrong mentality to be a successful fighter pilot in AH!

The thought that I might lose never once crossed my mind; I expect to win every engagement!  Once in a while I'm not proven correct, I suppose, but I'm at least a little surprised in those instances.

No i'm with you man.. when it's go time its go time.. and you go to the target.. I have no differences with that..
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: SkyRock on April 29, 2014, 09:40:45 PM
a -4 hog... eat them lil minnows for lunch!  :aok
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Someguy63 on April 29, 2014, 09:48:44 PM
a 109k4, come at me broz

Because fighting 4 k4's alone in mine actually does sound like a fun challenge  :aok

This……this I agree with  :aok
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: LCADolby on April 29, 2014, 11:32:18 PM
Swear out aloud in 3 languages  :joystick:
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Scotch on April 29, 2014, 11:41:24 PM
At 15k you can get most k4s to compress and lawn dart...
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: BaldEagl on April 29, 2014, 11:59:35 PM
Most likely I'd be in a Spit IX.  15K is just below the alt where the IX looses power for a few K so the fight should go OK.  Take it over 20K and I'd own them.

The last time I faced four K-4's (it was actually 6-7 K-4's) was in a scenario where I got caught alone in a Spit XIV at 25-30K.  No one got any kills but it was nip and tuck for over 5 minutes before I spotted an opportunity to egress safely and rendezvoused with my scenario squad mates.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: danny76 on April 30, 2014, 02:04:31 AM
fight until you die and figure out where you screwed up.



For me it's at the point where I decide to fight until I die :old:
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: artik on April 30, 2014, 03:35:44 AM
I-16... and the fun begins  :x

But in reality...

Most likely I'm with a few fellows in P-51D Escort at SEA over Europe that have just dived from 20K-25K at low 109s... and let the hunt begin...  :x :x :x
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 30, 2014, 06:35:23 AM
If your high in the sky at 15,000 ft.. and you encounter, say four 109k4's.. which plane are you in and why.. I want to hear interesting answers.. don't tell me a story now i'm 33 years old for godsakes.. but a good answer.. and bear76 you are banned from posting here

If you would have asked what would you like to be in, I would answer 262 but if you asked which plane you _are_ in, that would be whatever at hand. Most likely a brewster.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Aspen on April 30, 2014, 11:43:12 AM
I bail out just before they get close enough for a proxy
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Aspen on April 30, 2014, 11:55:11 AM
But seriously, I'm usually in a Ki-84 and I would rather fight them lower.  So, I try and convince them to come down.  Usually, only one or two will come down and the others will stay high.  I try and avoid their passes and bleed their E.  When we get into it I try and give one the perfect opportunity to do a tailslide (they love that) while masking that I can actually get guns on them during the flop before his buddy gets around on me.  Just before I explode him, the two I guessed wouldn't come down swoop in and potato me  :D

Four decent sticks in k4s are trouble
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: olds442 on April 30, 2014, 11:58:05 AM
Honestly the f4u-4 is the best in the game..  Why?? Don't even have to ask.. more like use it.. the only point you'll find..
Except the spit16 can out climb it, out turn it, out accelerate it, out roll it. The u4 is just faster... and i guess that makes it 20 perks more...
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Tank-Ace on April 30, 2014, 01:03:34 PM
Perk planes included, the Me 163. No perk planes, I'd pick the Ta-152.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: ink on April 30, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
in a Ki84

if I am fast (did I just get to 15K or have I been cruising along)

I would head directly to them...depending on my speed, I would try to go for some ALT on them....

you have a much better chance of killing them all if they are trying to come up to you....

fake attacks....try to get them all in the same air space....much easier to reverse 4 cons all close to each other then spread out all over....

fight in the vert, yes even against K4....

time your merge to when they are stalled out, land your hits at convergence....

if they are much faster I would slow down even more and just use over shoots and land hits as they pass by.....fighting nose down, but de-throttled....if they all slow down to within flaps usage, convert immediately to the vert fight....

the best fighters can switch it up with out thinking about it.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Zoney on April 30, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
I will be in a TA152 when I see them.  I will probably be at 25k and at speed.  I will probably have been anticipating them because of the inbound dar bar.  I will have a 50/50 chance of killing the first one (maybe two) before they see me.  I will climb and then roll back around for #2.  If they are still tight they will most likely wait to break untill I am close.  As they break I will pretend to focus on one and then at the last second change to his wingman and kill the second one as he breaks hard because he misjudged who the target is.  Most likely the last 2 will seperate then.  I will hold my E and keep making passes on the biggest threat but hopefully never leaving one long enough to get above me.  The third guy will die because he lost patience and tried too hard for a shot.  The fourth guy will go nose down and run.  I will chase him back to the dar on his own base then break off and fly home for fuel and ammo.

Well, that's the plan anyway.

If they are smart and attentive, I don't get to sneak up, they never leave their wingman and stay in pairs and whip me untill I'm crying for my squaddies who will then swoop in and kill them all leaving me with nothing but a smile.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: bangsbox on April 30, 2014, 01:42:24 PM
mossie and HO them all! :banana:
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: madrid311 on April 30, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
when it's go time its go time..
                You think your better than me !? ( Lloyd Bridges quote) :rock
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: BnZs on April 30, 2014, 04:34:52 PM
a -4 hog... eat them lil minnows for lunch!  :aok

Below 10K I would argue with you that this is not a given. However at 15K the power-weight advantage of the 109 becomes smaller. The K4 still has 9 minutes of WEP to 5 for for the F4U-4 though, and this could become a factor.
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=1&p2=54&pw=2&gtype=2&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on April 30, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
B-17G Formation with guns ready to rock.

Why?

Because it's the only aircraft I can shoot another down with.  :)
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: fuzeman on April 30, 2014, 04:59:01 PM
If your high in the sky at 15,000 ft.. and you encounter, say four 109k4's.. which plane are you in and why.. I want to hear interesting answers.. don't tell me a story now i'm 33 years old for godsakes.. but a good answer.. and bear76 you are banned from posting here

Read initial post and went right to answer, skipped the middle.

What plane am I in? Why the one I took off in, of course.  :aok
Unless I joined someone to gun.  :)
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: guncrasher on April 30, 2014, 08:51:08 PM
Read initial post and went right to answer, skipped the middle.

What plane am I in? Why the one I took off in, of course.  :aok
Unless I joined someone to gun.  :)

he only wanted to hear interesting answers.  what were you wearing?



semp
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Vraciu on May 01, 2014, 10:18:57 AM
If your high in the sky at 15,000 ft.. and you encounter, say four 109k4's.. which plane are you in and why.. I want to hear interesting answers.. don't tell me a story now i'm 33 years old for godsakes.. but a good answer.. and bear76 you are banned from posting here


The only hope you have of getting a straight answer on this is via PMs or hope someone in the Help Section takes it seriously.

If people wanna' be smart alecks at least answer the guy with a serious reply mixed in somewhere.

Great way to attract new players.   Representing the community really well there, people...
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: ink on May 01, 2014, 10:26:16 AM

The only hope you have of getting a straight answer on this is via PMs or hope someone in the Help Section takes it seriously.

If people wanna' be smart alecks at least answer the guy with a serious reply mixed in somewhere.

Great way to attract new players.   Representing the community really well there, people...

hows that????

I gave him a straight answer...and I am not the only one.
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on May 01, 2014, 10:29:21 AM
keep it pms.. then no one will ever know.. what fun is that...  :rofl
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: SAJ73 on May 01, 2014, 11:39:44 AM
in a Ki84

if I am fast (did I just get to 15K or have I been cruising along)

I would head directly to them...depending on my speed, I would try to go for some ALT on them....

you have a much better chance of killing them all if they are trying to come up to you....

fake attacks....try to get them all in the same air space....much easier to reverse 4 cons all close to each other then spread out all over....

fight in the vert, yes even against K4....




time your merge to when they are stalled out, land your hits at convergence....

if they are much faster I would slow down even more and just use over shoots and land hits as they pass by.....fighting nose down, but de-throttled....if they all slow down to within flaps usage, convert immediately to the vert fight....

the best fighters can switch it up with out thinking about it.


^^

This works!
I'll be the first to confirm that, INK showed every above mentionned aspect to me the hard way the other night. Time after time... Even tho I was not in a K4, I don't think my choice in plane really mattered much anyway, I am going to drink my WD40 now and hopefully the rust will go away..  :cry   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: Vraciu on May 01, 2014, 11:41:58 AM
hows that????

I gave him a straight answer...and I am not the only one.

Guess it got lost in the clutter of nonsense posted by others...
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: ink on May 01, 2014, 11:59:23 AM

^^

This works!
I'll be the first to confirm that, INK showed every above mentionned aspect to me the hard way the other night. Time after time... Even tho I was not in a K4, I don't think my choice in plane really mattered much anyway, I am going to drink my WD40 now and hopefully the rust will go away..  :cry   :rolleyes:

 :salute

good fights bud...and thats all that matters to me...you fought and didn't run....

Higheye one of the guys and your squadie if I recall correctly :headscratch:

we had some good ones...I have to give it up to the guys like yourselves..... seriously...Higheye no matter what.... fights... and you are the same....same as me....

not a whole lot left ingame that are like that :salute

Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: craz07 on May 01, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
I bail out just before they get close enough for a proxy

I don't think i've ever encountered this and I hope I never will..   :noid
Title: Re: SA - thoughts
Post by: SAJ73 on May 01, 2014, 12:35:17 PM
:salute

good fights bud...and thats all that matters to me...you fought and didn't run....

Higheye one of the guys and your squadie if I recall correctly :headscratch:

we had some good ones...I have to give it up to the guys like yourselves..... seriously...Higheye no matter what.... fights... and you are the same....same as me....

not a whole lot left ingame that are like that :salute



I had a great fun time while fighting you, so much that I went looking for you sortie after sortie just to get that adrenaline flowing again.  :rock
Yes higheye is the supreme leader of my squad actually, I'm just a squaddie myself.

(I think I broke my twisty during our last ki84 vs ki84 fight, I had to flip my plane around fast and I twisted hard left rudder so much I could feel something gave..)  :uhoh  

But great fun as always fighting you Sir, even if I did not last too long in any of those fights.  :lol  Salute!  :salute