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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NatCigg on May 09, 2014, 10:36:54 PM
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So a friend and i were talking about how much the previous day sucked because of the previous nights activities involving beer. he says"why do you drink?" I say "to escape reality. to gain a new perspective. i dont know, im happy." he replies " yeah a attitude adjustment."
My question is, is this bad? Is drinking a part of life allowing us from our socially propagated yet own self demise? Is it a self destructive way of life brought on by our own illusions and enjoyment of life? Defiantly a complex situation that is rooted in our perception and behavior.
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If your a happy drunk, OK. If your a mean drunk, Bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIv96reVlAE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIv96reVlAE)
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Most animals find fermented fruits and eat them for no other reason than it makes their head fuzzy.
Sometimes the answer is far simpler than most make it out to be. I will have a drink for no other reason that I, on occasion, simply like a slight buzz.
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I've found a bit of bourbon can actually be beneficial when I've got writer's block.
I've also found the trick is preventing a BIT of bourbon from becoming a LOT of bourbon...
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Self-demise, could explain that?
IF you are being entirely serious.
A first question would be how often do you drink to escape reality?
Clinicians are leaning more these days to asking if you've encountered ANY problems because of use more than they ask how many drinks.
Example: have you had a fight with loved one because of drinking? have you been late for work because of drinking...those indicate a problem.
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Those countries who dont drink are all backward :old:
Name me just one that is normal :old:
I drink to forget :rofl
Drink exposes peoples real personalities, Yarbles used to turn into Judy Garland :old:
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Those countries who dont drink are all backward :old:
Name me just one that is normal :old:
For what I've seen, the countries who "don't drink" are hypocritical. They give alcohol a nice name like "lion's milk" (adding water to anise flavoured spirit makes it white) and drink it from a coffee cup. Many of them also are large wine producers whose products never reach the global market.
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I just plain Love the taste of Beer. I could care less about the alchohol, its very rare I drink enough to be affected by it. Also I dont drink and drive, not even one Beer. I dont drink when we go out cause Im always armed with a gun.
I find beer and wine delicious tho. Most of all beer. As long as you stay within your honest limits, and society's legal limits, I dont see a problem. I havnt been in Europe in decades but back then it was quite common to have a beer or wine every day. Unless your a Brit, which is an island of bloody drunken sod's. :D
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I guess one day I finally have to get drunk for once to see what this fuss is all about... :old:
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Best to give it for awhile and see how you do. You might find how much you were spending and end up with money in your pocket. If you still want to go out be the designated driver, watch the fun then call your friends the next day and see how they feel.
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Drinking is great for letting off some steam and forgetting about your problems for awhile. But if you let it get out of control, your problems will be compounded. If you drink, be responsible about it and know that your problems will still be there in the morning waiting to be dealt with. As you get older you'll find you don't recover from hangovers as well as you used to and you'll discover other (better) ways of dealing with stress.....i.e. fishing, hunting, gardening, or smoking a joint. :cool:
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Before Margaritas
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After Margaritas
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:rofl :rofl :aok
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Go work nights in an Emergency Room for a while and you'll get a pretty good idea of what the downside to drug and alcohol abuse look like.
If you drink to "escape" you're headed for trouble --- it's an unrealistic expectation of what alcohol can do for you.
If you occasionallyhave a couple drinks to "take the edge off" you'll probably be ok.
IMO alcohol is one of the greatest evils. I come from a family where both of my parents, my sister and my brother were/are alcoholics, functional alcoholics but drunks none the less. It is sad what it does to you.
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Go work nights in an Emergency Room for a while and you'll get a pretty good idea of what the downside to drug and alcohol abuse look like.
If you drink to "escape" you're headed for trouble --- it's an unrealistic expectation of what alcohol can do for you.
If you occasionallyhave a couple drinks to "take the edge off" you'll probably be ok.
IMO alcohol is one of the greatest evils. I come from a family where both of my parents, my sister and my brother were/are alcoholics, functional alcoholics but drunks none the less. It is sad what it does to you.
agreed :aok
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Drinking is great for letting off some steam and forgetting about your problems for awhile. But if you let it get out of control, your problems will be compounded. If you drink, be responsible about it and know that your problems will still be there in the morning waiting to be dealt with. As you get older you'll find you don't recover from hangovers as well as you used to and you'll discover other (better) ways of dealing with stress.....i.e. fishing, hunting, gardening, or smoking a joint. :cool:
You're still in Iowa right? We should get a little meeting set up for the Iowegians.
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You're still in Iowa right? We should get a little meeting set up for the Iowegians.
Hell yeah! I'm in Centerville. I haven't been up to Des Moines in a while but have been wanting to check out "Splash Seafood Bar and Grill" for quite some time now. Or come on down my way to Rathbun lake for some Crappie and Catfish fishing. Come fall and winter we have some damned good hunting too.
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Go work nights in an Emergency Room for a while and you'll get a pretty good idea of what the downside to drug and alcohol abuse look like.
If you drink to "escape" you're headed for trouble --- it's an unrealistic expectation of what alcohol can do for you.
If you occasionallyhave a couple drinks to "take the edge off" you'll probably be ok.
IMO alcohol is one of the greatest evils. I come from a family where both of my parents, my sister and my brother were/are alcoholics, functional alcoholics but drunks none the less. It is sad what it does to you.
Alcohol is the devil. This is fact.
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:pray
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My old man drinks a lot, and he's one of those people that just wants to keep talking about things nobody cares about when they are drunk. He also gets pissed at stupid little things when he's sober, it's worse when he's drunk. This is the reason I don't drink, because I'm similar enough to him that I know that's how I'll act when I'm drunk.
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Nat, I play this game sometimes to escape reality and other times I have a drink or two. Over doing either one could be bad and I have done both, just ask my ex wife about over doing Ah. She told me AH or her.............I don't miss her at all :rofl
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Go work nights in an Emergency Room for a while and you'll get a pretty good idea of what the downside to drug and alcohol abuse look like.
If you drink to "escape" you're headed for trouble --- it's an unrealistic expectation of what alcohol can do for you.
If you occasionallyhave a couple drinks to "take the edge off" you'll probably be ok.
IMO alcohol is one of the greatest evils. I come from a family where both of my parents, my sister and my brother were/are alcoholics, functional alcoholics but drunks none the less. It is sad what it does to you.
Yeah, I can second that. That said, and as a practitioner of long term sobriety, I think compulsion is, if not blessed, at least sanctioned by evolution. Think about it. I differ in that I don't call alcohol, or any inanimate substance or object, evil. It's all about how it is used.
As for the op's question, though, my thinking, based on observing any number of what I'd call "lightweights" and what the rest would call normal/healthy drinkers, is that people who don't have a problem don't question their own behavior w/r alcohol. I.e., it's kind of like the price of that Lamborghini ... If you have to ask...
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Alcohol is the devil. This is fact.
:angel:
:pray
Gibberish!
The Brewster is the devil!
Drink is evil because someone is daft enough to drink to much :rofl
Pies are evil then because fat cannot keep their teeth together :rofl
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Unless your a Brit, which is an island of bloody drunken sod's. :D
Absolutely, an island that in my experience has some of the worst drunks around.
The 6 1/2 years I spent policing these shores has given me a certain amount of insight into drunken Brits, the booze addled, recidivist benefit claiming, football hooligan British slobs are currently being outclassed only the booze addled recidivist benefit claiming, football hooligan Eastern Europeans in the UK. :old:
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I really enjoy drinking.....
but I don't like getting drunk
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Absolutely, an island that in my experience has some of the worst drunks around.
The 6 1/2 years I spent policing these shores has given me a certain amount of insight into drunken Brits, the booze addled, recidivist benefit claiming, football hooligan British slobs are currently being outclassed only the booze addled recidivist benefit claiming, football hooligan Eastern Europeans in the UK. :old:
You know the answer: wood shampoo.
I sincerely hope that the UK hasn't "moved beyond" a little creative nightstick action.
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Absolutely, an island that in my experience has some of the worst drunks around.
The 6 1/2 years I spent policing these shores has given me a certain amount of insight into drunken Brits, the booze addled, recidivist benefit claiming, football hooligan British slobs are currently being outclassed only the booze addled recidivist benefit claiming, football hooligan Eastern Europeans in the UK. :old:
Lol, I was actually joking. Ive been to England, lovely place and I dont think they drink anymore then we do. As for "Policing Hooliganism" here is one of the many Ive had to in the last 30 years. Part 2 is probably better. http://youtu.be/G_pAC0gLCXc http://youtu.be/s6XfTVCHoDw . I was in the middle of this one and the one the year after I had to fight for my life, and not the only time I had to.
Get a bunch of 20 somethings drunk as skunks and watch out.
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Bulls 92! :rock
what did the crowd like more, turning over the cars, girls boobies, or the cops retreating?
Must suck to be a cop in that position.
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How you get drunk in the US on their Beer is beyond me :old:
Budwater :rofl
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My old man drinks a lot, and he's one of those people that just wants to keep talking about things nobody cares about when they are drunk. He also gets pissed at stupid little things when he's sober, it's worse when he's drunk. This is the reason I don't drink, because I'm similar enough to him that I know that's how I'll act when I'm drunk.
My dad was like that, and so was I. Between us, we had something like 6 or 7 degrees and when we'd argue, it was all about two over-edjimicated dronks trying to use "them book lurnins" to show how stupid the other guy was. A couple of real prettythangholes... Later, we both sobered up - and got along better as a result.
Your read is pretty correct, btw. Generally, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. Also, never argue with a drunk who's got some education. He won't be right, necessarily, but he'll be able to convince himself that he is and that you're not.
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Also, never argue with a drunk who's got some education. He won't be right, necessarily, but he'll be able to convince himself that he is and that you're not.
That's signature worthy!
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This is a great discussion! Let's just say it hits close to home, as someone close to me struggles with the same desire to consistently escape reality. My perspective is this: If you LIKE to do it, it's an AID, or just for fun, that's completely fine. The only time it gets concerning is when you just "can't make it through the day" without a drink to take the edge off. To me, that's a sign of dependency, and a bit of booze is fine, but personally I don't want to be dependent on anything.
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We are all dependant on AH what are we to do :cry
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We are all dependant on AH what are we to do :cry
Man, I hear ya. I haven't played in 4 years and I still think about it constantly...
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Hmmm... A name like serenity and it hits close to home? I'll give you my birthday: 2/10/1991... And yet I'm 50 years old. How can this be?
Anyway, I'm with you. I got off the judgment wagon a while back. These guys need to figure it out for themselves.
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50 is the new 40 :old:
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Alcohol never took the edge off for me
If I'm in a bad mood and I get drunk I just get in a worse mood
Plenty of my friends have plenty of voicemails to attest to this
Honestly the only thing that tends to put me in a somewhat better mood is marijuana
The primary reason I drink is just that sometimes "40 ounces of social skills" helps me be in the moment haha
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50 is the new 40 :old:
Dead is the new dead, same as the old dead.
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Bulls 92! :rock
what did the crowd like more, turning over the cars, girls boobies, or the cops retreating?
Must suck to be a cop in that position.
We retreated. We never should have been led into that mess to begin with. And yes it is very scarey to be wearing a uniform in a crazed drunken crowd knowing full well they could tear you to pieces and theres nothing you could do about it. The next year they over turned a squad with the guys in it and we couldnt fight our way to them.
The problem with mobs is they give anonymity to kids who are so drunk they are literally ripping their clothes off in the street and tearing autos to pieces. I have been in the unpleasant situation of being in the middle of a mob to many times in my life.
But the real danger of booze is within the family. A person really needs to know his limits and be honest with themselves.
And I honestly love Beer. :D I like a belt or two after a hard day.
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You're still in Iowa right? We should get a little meeting set up for the Iowegians.
I'm in Nebraska for the time being. Schedule it when I'm off of work and I'll ride my bike out there
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Hmmm... A name like serenity and it hits close to home? I'll give you my birthday: 2/10/1991... And yet I'm 50 years old. How can this be?
I'm... I'm not getting the reference...
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I love my beer but I don't like to be out of control. I will NOT drink and drive, I will NOT drink during a working day, and I always quit before I get a case of the stupids. I've quit before just to test my dependency on it and the only thing that bugged me was I had a small bit of trouble going to sleep at night for a couple of days. If you can handle it you can handle it if you can't you can't. It's that simple to me
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I love beer, especially craft beer... ales, lagers, porters, stouts, IPAs, hefe weizen, you name it. I don't like the mass produced light beers as I find the taste too bland, boring and devoid of character. In my opinion, if I'm going to drink anything, I would rather drink something I enjoy.
I drink anywhere from 2-6 beers per week. Once every few months I may get with some friends and family and drink 4-8 beers in one night and get boozed up.
I have been recently drinking Boddington's Pub Ale. To me it is like cake in a glass. :cheers:
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I'm... I'm not getting the reference...
Indeed. Me neither.