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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: Trainee on May 09, 2014, 11:22:06 PM
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Most of you don't know me from Adam but when The Unforgiven makes a commitment to FSO we try to live up to it. We were assigned the attack on V154 tonight and had a sound plan put together. Only one small issue. The escort of 7-10 never showed. Not whining, but we have flown with 3-4 pilots in years past. Every pilot counts in FSO. I am very passionate about FSO and have been for many years now, and I hate to have to try to explain to my guys why our escort was a no show. Please try to live up to your commitment to FSO if you sign up for it. We'll be back... :rock
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That sucks!! You gotta look at that and say the chances of the entire squad not showing by accident, hummm. Sounds coordinated to me.
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The squad assigned as your escort is a bit of turmoil and may be the reason.
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Last FSO 56th failed to escort our set of 190s, leading to all but 1 aircraft to be lost.
They were off doing their own thing, it's a pain when assignments don't show up, or fail to follow instruction.
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56th's orders were to escort/sweep A23. They swept. Did your CO contact LilMak and ask for close escort? Are you the official spokesman for Lachender Teufelskopf Gruppe or do they have a CO that would like to send me note (PM encouraged).
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yes this was the AOM
I would explain the reasons behind it......
but then I would have to kill you all......
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the squad was disbanded in SEA do to certain issues that don't need to be gotten into....
hopefully by next FSO we will be squared....
sorry for any issues our not being there caused.
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56th's orders were to escort/sweep A23. They swept. Did your CO contact LilMak and ask for close escort? Are you the official spokesman for Lachender Teufelskopf Gruppe or do they have a CO that would like to send me note (PM encouraged).
I'm the official spokesman for myself 56th disappointingly ignored part the of the job they didn't want to do at the expense of others that day.
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Last FSO 56th failed to escort our set of 190s, leading to all but 1 aircraft to be lost.
They were off doing their own thing, it's a pain when assignments don't show up, or fail to follow instruction.
First, you're not the only group of 190s last month who got wiped out.
Second, I had some issues last month and I personally missed all of the frames due to real life commitments. My crew, however, had the orders from me and they were there. Your fingers/keyboard obviously work since you're able to post here. Perhaps you should make an effort to communicate next time before you blame another squad for something that happened to you. And I don't appreciate, if you have a bone to pick with the 56th, the open forum to be the first place I/we hear about it.
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No bone to pick, just;
it's a pain when assignments don't show up, or fail to follow instruction.
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"sorry for any issues our not being there caused."
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Ink-Jetsom,
Thank you for the response. Understood, almost all squads have their hiccups from time to time. I was a tad frustrated with our 110's and Stukas hung out in the breeze with no help. Apology accepted Unforgiven are ready to move on to next Friday night.
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As far as the 56th goes they did an excellent job for us last night, everything went like clockwork and the timing for everything was excellent :aok same goes for the 367th as well :aok. In fact they contacted us by e-mail before the frame to get an idea of plans. Albeit I normally wing the plans in the last 30 minutes before start :lol . So Dolby not sure what happened in your case, but they did great for us.
Ink,
Look forward to having your guys back, I know you got some work and re-organizing to do. If any of your guys need a ride in the meantime, I'm sure VF-17 and the rest of the community can help you guys get your FSO fix on Friday :rock
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BigRat
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"sorry for any issues our not being there caused."
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Ink-Jetsom,
Thank you for the response. Understood, almost all squads have their hiccups from time to time. I was a tad frustrated with our 110's and Stukas hung out in the breeze with no help. Apology accepted Unforgiven are ready to move on to next Friday night.
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As far as the 56th goes they did an excellent job for us last night, everything went like clockwork and the timing for everything was excellent :aok same goes for the 367th as well :aok. In fact they contacted us by e-mail before the frame to get an idea of plans. Albeit I normally wing the plans in the last 30 minutes before start :lol . So Dolby not sure what happened in your case, but they did great for us.
Ink,
Look forward to having your guys back, I know you got some work and re-organizing to do. If any of your guys need a ride in the meantime, I'm sure VF-17 and the rest of the community can help you guys get your FSO fix on Friday :rock
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BigRat
appreciate the offer :salute
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Last FSO 56th failed to escort our set of 190s, leading to all but 1 aircraft to be lost.
They were off doing their own thing, it's a pain when assignments don't show up, or fail to follow instruction.
I wouldn't throw them under the bus on that one. That whole mission was fubar from the get-go. I made the decision to push directly in once the base we were trying to sneak past started flashing. Just dumb luck we got bounced by those spits.
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56th's orders were to escort/sweep A23. They swept. Did your CO contact LilMak and ask for close escort? Are you the official spokesman for Lachender Teufelskopf Gruppe or do they have a CO that would like to send me note (PM encouraged).
See above post. I have no issue with the 56th. :salute
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Ah, yes... This brings back fond memories of FSO. Many a night can get fubar there. That's part of what makes it so cool when things go right. I still remember the first time I busted a box of bombers with a 110's raketen, the first time I was sole squad survivor, the first time I landed a d-9 with half a wing (keep the speed up, compensate for the lost aileron with rudder). Those were great times with my now more or less gone squad mates. Word is, though, that I'm going to play in Voronezh next Friday. I hope to see you all there, either killing me, or better yet, under my guns.
Worst thing with FSO is when you make a noob mistake that ruins the mission for you. I remember an Italy scenario where I survived the first sortie with one squaddie, then on landing bent my prop.
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Makes it even worse when you fly a seafire 3 sectors with 1 wing and crash into the tower on the CV.
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See above post. I have no issue with the 56th. :salute
Rgr Devil; :salute :cheers:
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Flying out during this frame, there was a loud whistling noise under my plane and the 1800 kg bomb went missing! I really need to re-map that key!
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ur just old and need a more powerful hearing aide :devil :devil :devil
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Actually.....missed assignments.....bad rendezvous....squads running into other enemy squads they didn't plan on meeting. This is why I like FSO! Its the "Fog of War." The best laid plans going to hell when the first round is fired. This is the "realism" that makes it worth staying up to all hours of the night. The funny thing is....when I think "We have good plane set...we have the upper hand....we usually get an unexpected surprise and the night ends too soon. Then there's nights like last friday. We are flying what?!?! TU-2's. How high? 15K ceiling. I say "We are gonna get slaughtered"....then....we post one of the biggest nights in squad history.... FSO is like a box of chocolates....you never know what you'll get.
Salute to all.
AKSofty!
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i find it interesting that when something like this happens people freak out, but yet in WWII did escorts sometimes not make rendezvous? didnt squads sometimes end up where they shouldnt be, or out of position? thats what makes it fun. to be honest, the squad that didnt show, did the allies a favor. if they had showed, the allies wouldve really been overwhelmed and the whole thing wouldve been out of whack.... oh wait stuff like that actually happened! :rofl
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It is part of the FSO experience that sometimes a mission will go to the dogs, we have all been there. Sometimes escorts don't link up and that's just part of it as long as we are no talking about a deliberate ditching of a mission without good reason.
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It is part of the FSO experience that sometimes a mission will go to the dogs, we have all been there. Sometimes escorts don't link up and that's just part of it as long as we are no talking about a deliberate ditching of a mission without good reason.
Yes, although, maybe that's part of the fun too: after action "drama" and finger-pointing... Not my thing, but some might like it.
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The "fog of war" and all that is going to happen. If I am not mistaken, the lack of participation referenced at the beginnig of this thread had nothing to do with that. It had more to do with "playground tantrums".
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The "fog of war" and all that is going to happen. If I am not mistaken, the lack of participation referenced at the beginnig of this thread had nothing to do with that. It had more to do with "playground tantrums".
So what are you implying? You mean, in real life, Pooter55 can't just decide to leave his squad at home just because he doesn't like BigSkum and Sucky01 and doesn't feel like providing top cover?
Is that what happened here, or a re you writing more generally?
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My understanding, someone please correct me if I am wrong, is that a squad decided not to participte in a planned FSO event based on an ongoing feud on these very bulletin boards and in doing so affected the gameplay for some on the frame just completed. Does that explain things a litle better?
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Indeed it does... A bit unprofessional, I'd call it. But then, all you need is a pulse and 14.95 to join.
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Flying out during this frame, there was a loud whistling noise under my plane and the 1800 kg bomb went missing! I really need to re-map that key!
"Damn electric arming switch!!!" Cdr. Max Leslie
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Indeed it does... A bit unprofessional, I'd call it. But then, all you need is a pulse and 14.95 to join.
you would be right if you knew exactly what you were talking about....
you dont so you are not. :aok
have a good day.
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My understanding, someone please correct me if I am wrong, is that a squad decided not to participte in a planned FSO event based on an ongoing feud on these very bulletin boards and in doing so affected the gameplay for some on the frame just completed. Does that explain things a litle better?
You are wrong .
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You are wrong .
Ok, so I was wrong. What was the reason then?
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Not that it is any of your business but if our CO of fso wanted you to know, then he would have told you already.
We were not there, it was not a boycott by the squad, we are planning to be there next month...nuff said.
have a good day.. :)
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i wonder who the lucky squad is gonna be next month.... this seems to be happening each month with one group or another falling victim to circumstance and everyone having something to say about it! for one reason or another, the Army of Muppets had a problem. lets let them deal with it, and get on with our cartoon lives and kill red guys. hopefully they will reappear next month and cartoon life as we know it will be good again!! <S>
<S> AoM, i hope you clear up whatever it is! just don't give it to me!! i hear penicillin works too!
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Not that it is any of your business but if our CO of fso wanted you to know, then he would have told you already.
We were not there, it was not a boycott by the squad, we are planning to be there next month...nuff said.
have a good day.. :)
Would have been courteous though if your CO of FSO had informed folks so orders could have been adjusted accordingly.
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Not that it is any of your business but if our CO of fso wanted you to know, then he would have told you already.
We were not there, it was not a boycott by the squad, we are planning to be there next month...nuff said.
have a good day.. :)
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Not that it is any of your business but if our CO of fso wanted you to know, then he would have told you already.
We were not there, it was not a boycott by the squad, we are planning to be there next month...nuff said.
have a good day.. :)
Typical response. No need to get your panties in a knot over this. Have a nice day.
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I think your response should a bit more civil. Pepper explained and bid you a good day.
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Perhaps, you are entitled to how you think. I am done with this thread.
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Guys settle down here. If the Muppets wanted us to know about their situation they would've told us, and hence they did not. Give it a rest it is almost over. :salute :cheers:
Look forward to seeing the Muppets again next month :salute
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you would be right if you knew exactly what you were talking about....
you dont so you are not. :aok
have a good day.
No, I don't, ink. My statement was just to placate the poster. I suspect I will never know the real story here, though a pm would be welcome, if you're inclined.
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Perfect storm. We're not likely to have this issue in the future.
See you guys next month. :salute
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No, I don't, ink. My statement was just to placate the poster. I suspect I will never know the real story here, though a pm would be welcome, if you're inclined.
think about how you commented...someone who doesn't know the situation after reading your comment....(which to me was rude and straight up disrespectful) would certainly think you did....and take your "word" for it.
me personally..... I wont say I know something if I don't, and I have a hard time respecting someone who does....
it is solely MY fault the Muppets were NOT there....
the squad had absolutely NOTHING to do with it...AT ALL.
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think about how you commented...someone who doesn't know the situation after reading your comment....(which to me was rude and straight up disrespectful) would certainly think you did....and take your "word" for it.
me personally..... I wont say I know something if I don't, and I have a hard time respecting someone who does....
it is solely MY fault the Muppets were NOT there....
the squad had absolutely NOTHING to do with it...AT ALL.
I understand. I should probably just stay out of it, because, when I don't, there's very little chance of not ticking off one side or the other. No, I wouldn't call you, or any of the others involved, unprofessional. I've flown against you before - and would not slight you based on that alone.
But, you couched it yourself: my statement was conditioned on the poster's postulate. IF what he said was true... I make no judgment at this time whether it was or not.
I'm just trying to walk the line here in the interest of sating curiosity; a dangerous impulse. I am still no closer to the truth and don't want to pass judgment on anyone.
You have my apology.
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it is solely MY fault the Muppets were NOT there....
the squad had absolutely NOTHING to do with it...AT ALL.
:salute INK for taking responsibility. I think the lesson is learned and there's no need to take this any further. Look forward to seeing the Muppets next month, albiet the offer still stands to any AoM that would want to fly with VF-17 for next frame.
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BigRat
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:salute INK for taking responsibility. I think the lesson is learned and there's no need to take this any further. Look forward to seeing the Muppets next month, albiet the offer still stands to any AoM that would want to fly with VF-17 for next frame.
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BigRat
We'll make sure this is passed along BigRat. Thank you sir. :salute
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:salute INK for taking responsibility. I think the lesson is learned and there's no need to take this any further. Look forward to seeing the Muppets next month, albiet the offer still stands to any AoM that would want to fly with VF-17 for next frame.
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BigRat
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I understand. I should probably just stay out of it, because, when I don't, there's very little chance of not ticking off one side or the other. No, I wouldn't call you, or any of the others involved, unprofessional. I've flown against you before - and would not slight you based on that alone.
But, you couched it yourself: my statement was conditioned on the poster's postulate. IF what he said was true... I make no judgment at this time whether it was or not.
I'm just trying to walk the line here in the interest of sating curiosity; a dangerous impulse. I am still no closer to the truth and don't want to pass judgment on anyone.
You have my apology.
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