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Title: Free For All arena...
Post by: ARSNishi on May 10, 2014, 11:01:28 AM
I've already donned my flame retardant suit anticipating purist resistance.... But here goes anyway.

 With the dwindling DA numbers and sometimes a downright empty room.... Lots of people clamoring for "the fight".... And the obvious allure of frenetic paced instant action evidenced by the popularity of GV spawn camping, I'd like to humbly suggest a version of.... and personally attest to the popularity of what Fighter Ace called the "Free For All" arena. 

 It was a room complete with close proximity aerial spawns...  where everyone is a red/bad guy, unlimited ammo and relaxed physics.  You flew and fought until you had no plane left.   

 It was an excellent room to practice your gunnery, improve your SA and fine tune your ACM.

 For those who would say "why should we do anything the way of a failed flight sim from yesteryear".... save it, That's an argument for another thread....  FA had a good long run with lots of loyal followers and did lots of things right..... But one of them was NOT.... advertising...IMO the reason for its demise.   But one thing is for sure....  the FFA arena remained popular until the day they shut the doors forever.

Flame away... 

:salute Nish
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Butcher on May 10, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
Why not just turn the Training Arena free for everyone?
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ink on May 10, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
I Like it...except with out the relaxed physics.
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ARSNishi on May 10, 2014, 11:08:58 AM
Why not just turn the Training Arena free for everyone?
I doubt morfiend or other trainers would appreciate having their room hijacked like that.

:salute Nish
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ARSNishi on May 10, 2014, 11:10:38 AM
I Like it...except with out the relaxed physics.
I agree, the relaxed physics something that could fall by the wayside. 
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: The Fugitive on May 10, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
Make a custom arena, call it FFA. Advertize it and use it. If you can keep it full ALL the time you might be on to something. My guess is it will soon get the same reputation the DA lake gets and soon it will b e as empty as that.
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ink on May 10, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
I agree, the relaxed physics something that could fall by the wayside. 

it is an excellent idea for the guys that only have an hour or so to kill....in the MA with that time you almost may not find a good adrenaline pumping fight...

in an arena like this you would find many in that short time.

no ICONS would be even better...all enemy so NO need for them....

or maybe a setting that just makes the icon a small dot for those that have bad eyes or small monitors.
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Rogue9Volt on May 10, 2014, 11:29:43 AM
+1!!!

Often times I have only a little while to fly during the day..  I would be in a free for all arena all the time.  In fact, if someone makes a custom arena to test this idea, you can count on me participating.

As far as physics, I say make 'em harder than normal so that it's like hardcore training.

<S>
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Tinkles on May 10, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
I've already donned my flame retardant suit anticipating purist resistance.... But here goes anyway.

 With the dwindling DA numbers and sometimes a downright empty room.... Lots of people clamoring for "the fight".... And the obvious allure of frenetic paced instant action evidenced by the popularity of GV spawn camping, I'd like to humbly suggest a version of.... and personally attest to the popularity of what Fighter Ace called the "Free For All" arena.  

 It was a room complete with close proximity aerial spawns...  where everyone is a red/bad guy, unlimited ammo and relaxed physics.  You flew and fought until you had no plane left.  

 It was an excellent room to practice your gunnery, improve your SA and fine tune your ACM.

 For those who would say "why should we do anything the way of a failed flight sim from yesteryear".... save it, That's an argument for another thread....  FA had a good long run with lots of loyal followers and did lots of things right..... But one of them was NOT.... advertising...IMO the reason for its demise.   But one thing is for sure....  the FFA arena remained popular until the day they shut the doors forever.

Flame away...  

:salute Nish


Just got this idea after reading your post.

Training arena - free, but limited to 2-3 hours. Potentially less if the person if being a troll/jerk.
Dueling arena - free, but limited to 1 hour being in the DA per 12/24 hours. (Not in flight time, but in actual time, so the second you enter the clock starts).

All other arenas are blocked off (incase we get some random trolls under new names starting trouble, at least in the DA players could get a taste of the MA or some combat without being a bother.)

 :salute
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ARSNishi on May 10, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
Why not just turn the Training Arena free for everyone?
Just got this idea after reading your post.

Training arena - free
Dueling arena - free, but limited to 1 hour being in the DA per 12/24 hours. (Not in flight time, but in actual time, so the second you enter the clock starts).

All other arenas are blocked off (incase we get some random trolls under new names starting trouble, at least in the DA players could get a taste of the MA or some combat without being a bother.)

 :salute
Apparently some clarification is called for.....   My suggestion has nothing to do with "free" as in not paying a subscription....  That's just what the arena was called in Fighter Ace.....   And it was called that because it was basically an "everybody for himself" type arena

:salute Nish
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: MrKrabs on May 10, 2014, 12:35:42 PM
Custom Arena...

Lack of things to shoot at? Ai fill in with staged missions...

Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: morfiend on May 10, 2014, 12:36:51 PM
I doubt morfiend or other trainers would appreciate having their room hijacked like that.

:salute Nish


  The only issue I see is that damage would need to be set to MA standard and that will cause issues with training. I know you're not asking for free to play time,you want it so everyone is an enemy{free for all} fighting.

  I'm not an expert on the game coading but I would think this in itself is a problem as the game is setup with 3 sides and you must choose 1 side to play. So therefore you'd need it coaded so that the game saw every player on a different side,the AvA only has 2 sides but I suspect even that would be a slight problem.

   I flew FA way back when and a couple other sims that were setup in this format,I agree it could be great fun,but I also think the same could be had in the DA.


    :salute
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ink on May 10, 2014, 12:38:29 PM

  The only issue I see is that damage would need to be set to MA standard and that will cause issues with training. I know you're not asking for free to play time,you want it so everyone is an enemy{free for all} fighting.

  I'm not an expert on the game coading but I would think this in itself is a problem as the game is setup with 3 sides and you must choose 1 side to play. So therefore you'd need it coaded so that the game saw every player on a different side,the AvA only has 2 sides but I suspect even that would be a slight problem.

   I flew FA way back when and a couple other sims that were setup in this format,I agree it could be great fun,but I also think the same could be had in the DA.


    :salute

1 country.... friendly fire is on..
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ARSNishi on May 10, 2014, 12:53:57 PM
1 country.... friendly fire is on..
Yup, I would think this shouldn't be too hard.....  Though I've never set up a custom arena.   :aok

:salute Saroot! Ki84 inkmaster-san!
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ink on May 10, 2014, 01:05:36 PM
Yup, I would think this shouldn't be too hard.....  Though I've never set up a custom arena.   :aok

:salute Saroot! Ki84 inkmaster-san!


“The primary thing when you take a sword in your hands is your intention to cut the enemy, whatever the means. Whenever you parry, hit, spring, strike or touch the enemy's cutting sword, you must cut the enemy in the same movement. It is essential to attain this. If you think only of hitting, springing, striking or touching the enemy, you will not be able actually to cut him.”

 Miyamoto Musashi,

 :salute
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: LCADolby on May 10, 2014, 04:28:00 PM
Training Arena should be free. It's a taste but not the full cake.
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ARSNishi on May 10, 2014, 05:01:03 PM
Training Arena should be free. It's a taste but not the full cake.
read down a little lower Dolbeh.   Where I quoted Butcher and Tinkles....  I need to see if I can edit the title of my thread because several are taking it in an entirely different direction.

:salute Nish
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Tinkles on May 10, 2014, 05:08:58 PM
read down a little lower Dolbeh.   Where I quoted Butcher and Tinkles....  I need to see if I can edit the title of my thread because several are taking it in an entirely different direction.

:salute Nish

While I support your initial reason behind the wish. I also like the idea of the TA being free for non-subscribers so we have more potential players to interact with.

 :salute

So +1 for the initial wish as well.   :D
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: RotBaron on May 10, 2014, 05:46:20 PM
 :aok  Sounds like a great idea

 :salute
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: FLS on May 10, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
While you're waiting for this you can use any map with an air spawn in a custom arena with killshooter off.
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: LCADolby on May 11, 2014, 12:00:31 AM
read down a little lower Dolbeh.   Where I quoted Butcher and Tinkles....  I need to see if I can edit the title of my thread because several are taking it in an entirely different direction.

:salute Nish

Free and free for all
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Latrobe on May 11, 2014, 12:51:47 AM
A free for all arena is definitely something this game could use.

On the off topic of a free arena, with all the free to play games coming out, I think a free to play kind of thing for AH2 would be good to get some more customers into this game. A free arena with limited features like how H2H used to be to get people interested into paying the $15 a month subscription.
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Bruv119 on May 11, 2014, 01:59:51 AM
again Nish isn't suggesting a free loading arena.

Nish: FFA can be easily re-created in a custom room.  The Few training map includes multiple air spawn heights within a bowl that would be roughly the same concept.  You would even have more control over plane choices by having the host remove those fast / cannon fodder planes that guys used to spawn in and do a couple of gun pass picks and then run.  The max of 16 players would be enough for an on-going scrap. 

Other than that you can easily amend the KOTH terrain with as many air spawns as you like.  It isn't difficult to do.

Once you have the map and learn the arena settings you can have full control over planes, icons and griefers.   Leave your PC running 24/7.   ;)

Wish granted!
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Rogue9Volt on May 11, 2014, 02:18:25 AM
I hope someone does make an arena..  I'd play in it.  Even if it was only temporary.
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: danny76 on May 11, 2014, 04:45:39 AM
Definite + 1 on the idea as a whole

Huge -1 on any form of relaxed physics
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ARSNishi on May 12, 2014, 03:55:34 PM
Definite + 1 on the idea as a whole

Huge -1 on any form of relaxed physics
apologies for not clarifying in the initial wish as I wasn't advocating for arcade physics in an AH version of this arena. 

:salute Nish
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: morfiend on May 12, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
1 country.... friendly fire is on..


  Good to see some can see things others dont..... :o    That hadnt occured to me!


   I like the idea of the freeforall fight,however much like WW1 arena it will get stale after awhile,but if you setup a custom arena besure to let me know so I can advertise it in the TA!


    :salute
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: Zacherof on May 21, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
it is an excellent idea for the guys that only have an hour or so to kill....in the MA with that time you almost may not find a good adrenaline pumping fight...

in an arena like this you would find many in that short time.

no ICONS would be even better...all enemy so NO need for them....

or maybe a setting that just makes the icon a small dot for those that have bad eyes or small monitors.
Well it would be fun if some of us weren't baby seals :bolt:










 :D
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: ink on May 21, 2014, 01:41:12 PM
Well it would be fun if some of us weren't baby seals :bolt:










 :D

 :D

 :salute
Title: Re: Free For All arena...
Post by: lunatic1 on May 21, 2014, 04:37:53 PM
i have often thought of haveing a free-for-all at the tank town in the createrma-all 3 countries meet in the middle at the town...everybody says when ready...1 captain says ready-set-FIRE--fight for 15 minutes--then see who's left--it's something for just the heck of it..respawns will be limited to their spawn only till over--no firing till it's over...this is just an wild idea