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Title: Tu-2 Question
Post by: WEZEL on May 11, 2014, 06:19:08 AM
By no means I am an expert on aircraft but this one has me baffled a bit. Why on the Tu Tu when you drop  a notch of flaps the aircraft goes noes down? all other aircraft that I have flown in game goes nose up  :joystick:
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: Coalcat1 on May 11, 2014, 12:39:53 PM
 I haven't seen this, have to test it.
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: Hap on May 11, 2014, 12:47:27 PM
I've noticed it also.  Can't recall if gear has been down all the time or no. 
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: Vraciu on May 11, 2014, 01:02:47 PM
My guess would be the center of lift is moving aft as the flaps extend.   Not sure what type of flap the Tu has though, so I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: Rich46yo on May 11, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
I've noticed it also.  Can't recall if gear has been down all the time or no. 

No. The flaps can be activated at 200 mph and do indeed dip the front of the aircraft. This is a bomber you have to maintain 150 mph for its best handling while landing. Hit 2 or 3 notches of flaps and lay off the throttle to much and before you know it your wobbling and have to gun the throttle to level. Its forgiving and easy to handle but its kinda quirky. Quirky like the B26 but not in the same way.

You can easily force overshoots in the TU. And if your empty, maybe even if your not, you can wep climb well enough to maybe get a nice look at the fighter that just over shot you. Just remember to bring your flaps up first.
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: WEZEL on May 11, 2014, 02:47:06 PM
I've noticed it also.  Can't recall if gear has been down all the time or no. 

It does it gear up about 180 when you can deploy flaps, the nose dips it's like they are working backwards.....very odd  :airplane:
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: Vraciu on May 11, 2014, 04:32:23 PM
It does it gear up about 180 when you can deploy flaps, the nose dips it's like they are working backwards.....very odd  :airplane:


Flaps disrupting or diverting some airflow over the horizontal stab perhaps?
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: morfiend on May 11, 2014, 07:11:34 PM
 Wezel,do you have combat trim on?   It seems to me that CT is off on the TU,usually if you hold a plane stead for abit it will trim itself to hold that attitude.

  In the TU I find it noses up no matter how long you hold it steady,I found once light it seems more dramatic.  I had sent a note to HTC about this,however I didnt notice the nose down dip.  Of course I wasnt checking that just the CT.



   :salute
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: earl1937 on May 11, 2014, 08:46:00 PM

Flaps disrupting or diverting some airflow over the horizontal stab perhaps?
:airplane: You are real close to correct answer! I have never flown a "real live TU2", but have flown the B-26C a good bit and it does the same thing! When discussing it with a factory rep, was told the 10 degree down flap setting forced air to strike the bottom of the horizontal stab, hence causing the nose to pitch down. I would not do this if you down around 150IAS, but 175 and up it would.
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Post by: GScholz on May 11, 2014, 08:51:23 PM
109s also nose down (in real life anyway) due to the shifting of center of lift. Some AC pitch up, some down depending on design.
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Post by: GScholz on May 11, 2014, 08:54:03 PM
Just think of how a tailless aircraft like the Me 163 flies.
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: WEZEL on May 11, 2014, 10:15:27 PM
Wezel,do you have combat trim on?   It seems to me that CT is off on the TU,usually if you hold a plane stead for abit it will trim itself to hold that attitude.

  In the TU I find it noses up no matter how long you hold it steady,I found once light it seems more dramatic.  I had sent a note to HTC about this,however I didnt notice the nose down dip.  Of course I wasnt checking that just the CT.



   :salute

Combat trim is on when I am in bombers.
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: Butcher on May 13, 2014, 07:54:10 PM
I'm sorry if I went off topic, but I am not sure if I like the TU-2, with 4,000lbs of ords I climbed to around 16k to barely do 300mph, when i let loose the external ords I do get some extra speed out of it, I think 315mph. It does climb pretty well, great gun package in the front but pretty poor in the rear.

Honestly its a change, but I would rather just take the B-26 instead to have the better defensive armament because the the Tu-2 simply isn't much.
Title: Re: Tu-2 Question
Post by: Lusche on May 13, 2014, 07:57:20 PM
Honestly its a change, but I would rather just take the B-26 instead to have the better defensive armament because the the Tu-2 simply isn't much.

So would I, but it all depends where and how you are using it. The Tu-2's strength is getting in fast and striking very hard at the same time (that's why it's the perfect CV killer). It's not made for loitering over the target - if you have to do several passes in the face of serious opposition, the B-26 is more likely the better choice