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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Skyguns MKII on May 12, 2014, 12:11:28 AM
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So i operate the heavy duty compressors where i work. keep in mind i like to keep professional on the job to a extent. The byproduct of draining water is compressor oil and oil from changing the engine side of it. So about every month i have 2-4 liters of hazardous waste. I let both bosses know as i try to be a professional about disposing it. But being told to dump it in the porta potty is not what i was expecting :huh i mean comon iv worked there and seen bosses come and go and i dont appreciate being asked to do that. Guess that's why im schooling for a more professional industry :rolleyes: Have any of you been asked to do something by higher up you knew was dumb and wrong? Im still addressing the situation.
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So you are making porta-potty poop radioactive? Does it glow?
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Probably not the most politic thing to say but...
Kinda worrisome that you feel compelled to seek advice on this moral dilemma in a forum like this. Seems like something you should be able to work out without input from these quarters.
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So i operate the heavy duty compressors where i work. keep in mind i like to keep professional on the job to a extent. The byproduct of draining water is compressor oil and oil from changing the engine side of it. So about every month i have 2-4 liters of hazardous waste. I let both bosses know as i try to be a professional about disposing it. But being told to dump it in the porta potty is not what i was expecting :huh i mean comon iv worked there and seen bosses come and go and i dont appreciate being asked to do that. Guess that's why im schooling for a more professional industry :rolleyes: Have any of you been asked to do something by higher up you knew was dumb and wrong? Im still addressing the situation.
Pep Boys ( or you local equivalent) usually takes used oil.
Glad you thought of this while dumping waste oil into the port-o-potty and then only God knows where into the environment , after that.
Even better that you put it in writing.
The EPA loves things like this.
Good luck. If they (the EPA) ever finds out, the bosses will point their fingers at you. :aok
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Probably not the most politic thing to say but...
Kinda worrisome that you feel compelled to seek advice on this moral dilemma in a forum like this. Seems like something you should be able to work out without input from these quarters.
Eh, he's in a real tough spot. He KNOWS it's wrong, and clearly doesn't want to do it, but I'm pretty sure he has bills to pay, and cannot afford to lose his job for complaining to the higher ups or blowing the whistle just yet.
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I don't think he is in a tough spot at all.
There is right, and there is wrong. The OP clearly knows what is right.
Do the right thing.
I believe the right thing is to refuse to break the law for your employer.
The very worse that can happen is you get fired from a place that does the wrong thing.
Then you will certainly have choices to make, many of them.
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Eh, he's in a real tough spot. He KNOWS it's wrong, and clearly doesn't want to do it, but I'm pretty sure he has bills to pay, and cannot afford to lose his job for complaining to the higher ups or blowing the whistle just yet.
FYI to those of u that don't know I did not dispose of it yet. Its sitting in sealed containers at the moment until I have a word. For the rest of u that don't understand this is just a post asking if u guys ever been asked to do something at work u knew was wrong :rolleyes: funny seeing people get heated not understanding what's the last comment on the post and jumping to conclusions
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The company, which employs me, has an ethics line that can be called from any phone anytime. If that call were traced, and a public phone was used, all they would be able to tell is where the call originated. Not who made the call. Is that an option for you? If so, I would make the call immediately.
The company is liable for what employees do, but the employee will ultimately be held responsible.
Back in my USN days we had a saying.......Not on my watch!
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FYI to those of u that don't know I did not dispose of it yet. Its sitting in sealed containers at the moment until I have a word. For the rest of u that don't understand this is just a post asking if u guys ever been asked to do something at work u knew was wrong :rolleyes: funny seeing people get heated not understanding what's the last comment on the post and jumping to conclusions
Of course we have.
You know what is right and wrong. Time to sack-up and tell them you won't do it.
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The company, which employs me, has an ethics line that can be called from any phone anytime. If that call were traced, and a public phone was used, all they would be able to tell is where the call originated. Not who made the call. Is that an option for you? If so, I would make the call immediately.
The company is liable for what employees do, but the employee will ultimately be held responsible.
Back in my USN days we had a saying.......Not on my watch!
THAT is definitely the way to go.
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At my last job one of my bosses told me to dump a couple of gallons of expired catalyst outside on the ground... The catalyst is extremely poisonous and is supposed to mixed with resin so the two can harden and be thrown out.
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I can recall on numerous occasions asked to do what you would say are shady things, I just say right up front I ain't gonna do it if its going to break any laws. Where do you normally dispose of that product ?
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I can recall on numerous occasions asked to do what you would say are shady things, I just say right up front I ain't gonna do it if its going to break any laws. Where do you normally dispose of that product ?
before it wasn't even my problem and my other boss ie owner of machinery would dispose of it. How he did so I'm not sure. It would drain to a bucket and he would usually take it from there. Lately he hasn't come down often enough to do so. Usually the two bosses communicate so I'm questioning if hes making the call for that or not. Regardless I'm going to get to the bottom of it next time I'm working
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Skyguns I am assuming that you are in the USA; if so then you can do a little research on liquid hazardous waste removal companies. In one of my last jobs we had a fair amount of paint waste that we sprayed out of pressurized paint pots using Xylene as the cleaning fluid. One day the EPA showed up because our neighboring company had gotten some paint residue on one of the owners black cars. He asked out manager to get it repainted and when we sent it to get repainted it got reported to the EPA. We paid a hefty fine and I was tasked with finding a liquid paint waste removal company that came around and collected 55 gallon drums of the material each month and charged us for a disposal and transportation.
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2-4 liters of oil, maybe take it to an auto shop or parts store might have a disposal option. Then take it up again with your employer, hopefully they will see the folly of their ways.
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I don't think he is in a tough spot at all.
There is right, and there is wrong. The OP clearly knows what is right.
Do the right thing.
I believe the right thing is to refuse to break the law for your employer.
The very worse that can happen is you get fired from a place that does the wrong thing.
Then you will certainly have choices to make, many of them.
I agree. Sad thing is I took this stance and spent two years looking for a decent job to replace the one I lost. Actually still looking while I do something I'm not really happy at and pays sod all.
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I agree. Sad thing is I took this stance and spent two years looking for a decent job to replace the one I lost. Actually still looking while I do something I'm not really happy at and pays sod all.
My ethics professor told us that while whistle blowing might be the "right thing to do" you better make sure it is right for you and your career. Most times you will find yourself out of a job and possibly somewhat black listed from a particular industry. You have to think about yourself and your family that you are providing for. It almost seems better to turn a blind eye long enough to find another suitable job versus getting fired and being out of a job for an indefinite period of time.
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When given the ability and opportunity to fix a problem yourself, ie dispose of it yourself at an oil reclamation facility, or turn it in and put yourself and maybe your family in jeopardy ,, I'd just deal with it! But that's just me, I've always been a do'r more than the other option !
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I wouldn't just say "it's wrong" without bringing two workable alternatives to the same discussion.
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My ethics professor told us that while whistle blowing might be the "right thing to do" you better make sure it is right for you and your career. Most times you will find yourself out of a job and possibly somewhat black listed from a particular industry. You have to think about yourself and your family that you are providing for. It almost seems better to turn a blind eye long enough to find another suitable job versus getting fired and being out of a job for an indefinite period of time.
I didn't think I'd do well with a potential stint in club fed. Owners had the money for high dollar lawyers. I didn't.
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I didn't think I'd do well with a potential stint in club fed. Owners had the money for high dollar lawyers. I didn't.
and my boss has plenty of those.
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I don't have a good answer for you Sky. I wish I did. I did what I felt was right and I'm still taking the hits for it. The good news, for me, is I can hold my head up and know I did what was right.
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Take it to an airport maintenance shop. They will send you in the right disposal
Direction or take it away from you.
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I would politely but in writing point out the error in their thinking that dumping it in a porta potty is a bad idea inasmuch as such contamination could easily be traced back to your company should the containment be discovered at the dump site which is almost surely tested by official representatives from time to time and as most porta potty companies keep records as to which unit has or is being used where. Then suggest the gas station or other solution.
Putting it in writing makes it taken more seriously. It also covers your own arse.
Whatever you do. Dont make a complaint without offering a solution. Makes you look good and not just as a whiner.