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Title: Cross Winds
Post by: earl1937 on May 19, 2014, 02:15:27 PM
 :airplane: When approaching a runway of intended landing, the runway is laid out in a 090 degree heading and the wind is approaching the runway from 150 degrees at 30 knots, which will require a cross-wind landing technique by the pilot! He should do this correctly by:

A- Left aileron up, elevator slightly down, and right rudder as needed to maintain a 090 degree heading prior to touch down.

B- Right aileron up, elevator neutral, left rudder as needed.

C- left aileron down, elevator neutral, left rudder as needed.

D- Right aileron down, elevator neutral, right rudder as needed.

If, during takeoff roll, you would use which as standard practice?
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: colmbo on May 19, 2014, 03:53:40 PM
Right aileron, elevator as needed for pitch control, split the power with the right side a couple inches higher than the left so you don't run out of runway, fly it on right wing low, KEEP THE AILERONS INTO THE WIND (right), do whatever you need to do with rudder, power and brake (last choice) to keep pointed down the runway.  Fly it all the way to the tiedown then once you're legs quit shaking get out and walk calmly to the hangar.   :devil
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: hitech on May 19, 2014, 05:10:55 PM
I still don't like the cross winds in the Cherokee, with the RV it simple to align the nose with the runway using rudder, then aileron as needed to stop drift.

Sitting on the side of the plane is still messing with me (yesterday  included after 6 hour CC). I have a hard time aligning nose with the runway using rudder.

HiTech

Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: Seadog36 on May 19, 2014, 07:17:57 PM
I used to own a Swift, that plane was terrifying in a crosswind. My Bonanza make every landing seem easy- Lets see your RV Hitech. There is a guy putting a Rotec radial on I think an RV-6. Baby F6F, looks really cool.

This question is harder to answer if you have ruddervators haha.

Seadog36
N8789A
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: FLS on May 19, 2014, 07:18:46 PM
I still don't like the cross winds in the Cherokee, with the RV it simple to align the nose with the runway using rudder, then aileron as needed to stop drift.

Sitting on the side of the plane is still messing with me (yesterday  included after 6 hour CC). I have a hard time aligning nose with the runway using rudder.

HiTech



Put a dot on your monitor err windshield.   :D
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: hitech on May 19, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
I used to own a Swift, that plane was terrifying in a crosswind. My Bonanza make every landing seem easy- Lets see your RV Hitech. There is a guy putting a Rotec radial on I think an RV-6. Baby F6F, looks really cool.

This question is harder to answer if you have ruddervators haha.

Seadog36
N8789A
You can fly it in game. Or Google n346ak
HiTech
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: Seadog36 on May 19, 2014, 08:23:06 PM
You can fly it in game. Or Google n346ak
HiTech

That's a good way to log RV-8 time, very nice...
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: LilMak on May 19, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
30kts?!? I find another runway. Last time I put my 170 down in 25kt crosswind, I came about one foot from dragging my right wingtip on the runway with full correction and standing on the brake to keep it from swapping sides. I'd bet there's still a 1/2 moon skid mark on the runway (and one in my shorts).
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 19, 2014, 10:53:29 PM
I did a 20 knot crosswind once... it took me two tries but I got it. The Cessna 150 creaked a bit wheels down but we all survived. The second time I forced my instructor to land it, but the plane was a 172 and I had less than two hours in it and no previous landings in a 172.

I wish we had crosswords down low. It would add to the experience.
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: Seadog36 on May 19, 2014, 11:22:11 PM
The spring gear in a 170 and 140 sure make crosswinds exciting. One good bounce and you are barely pilot in command. Mak~ officially going to Oshkosh 30th-2nd, hope to see you there.
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: LilMak on May 20, 2014, 12:12:30 AM
The spring gear in a 170 and 140 sure make crosswinds exciting. One good bounce and you are barely pilot in command. Mak~ officially going to Oshkosh 30th-2nd, hope to see you there.
Yea. They do have a tendency to bounce. The above landing was pretty sweet. Had the perfect correction dialed in and put it down on the left main. I really didn't have a problem until it settled into a three point and got a big gust from the left. Then things got UGLY.

Flipppin sweet on KOSH brother!!! I'll be there from the 28th to the 2nd I believe.
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: Seadog36 on May 20, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
Look up Radial Conversions on FB. Radial engine on an RV-8
 Almost complete... If you feel like changing things up Dale
Has HTC ever had a booth at Oshkosh, might generate some interest
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: earl1937 on May 20, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
Yea. They do have a tendency to bounce. The above landing was pretty sweet. Had the perfect correction dialed in and put it down on the left main. I really didn't have a problem until it settled into a three point and got a big gust from the left. Then things got UGLY.

Flipppin sweet on KOSH brother!!! I'll be there from the 28th to the 2nd I believe.
:airplane: There is a "Castering" gear assy for the 170 and 180 Cessna's. Friend of mine who owned a "metal" winged 170 bought a pair for his bird and we had a blast learning out to use the darn things! You could be pointed 30 degrees right of the Taxi way and going straight, hard to keep it straight when taxing! As for takeoffs and landings, just let the thing "weather vane" into the wind, go ahead and land just like you would if it was lined up straight! Everything worked good until one day in about a 20 knot X-wind at "Charlie Brown in Atlanta", we were shooting some touch and goes, practicing, me on elevator and ailerons and him on rudders, we blew the downwind tire and almost cart wheeled the darn thing! Oh, well, put a tire on and back again. Just goes to show you how stupid a couple of 27 year olds could be when they really tried!!!
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: GScholz on May 20, 2014, 10:14:11 PM
The correct answer is:  A- Left aileron up, elevator slightly down, and right rudder as needed to maintain a 090 degree heading prior to touch down, crash, hospital.

... or perhaps B ;)
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: Puma44 on May 21, 2014, 12:12:12 AM
You do understand that it's a right crosswind, correct?
Title: Re: Cross Winds
Post by: GScholz on May 21, 2014, 12:28:49 AM
Yup... That's the crash, hospital part.