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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: alpini13 on May 25, 2014, 10:50:11 AM
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there have been posts in the past about inactive players...and that they should be disco'ed after so many minutes in the tower........so why couldnt inactive players simply go to a quiet field and get in a field gun and then go afk...with no afk showing on their name??? hmmmmmm?????? how would you thwart that??? hmmmmmmm????? :rofl let me guesss all active players will be discoed every so and so minutes??? :rofl
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Determining inactivity isn't a tech hurdle regarding this wish. Not in flight and/or no stick or key inputs for (insert time) can't be difficult for the system to detect.
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Bounce them to mid-war, that way they don't complain about being kicked out and having to restart.
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Determining inactivity isn't a tech hurdle regarding this wish. Not in flight and/or no stick or key inputs for (insert time) can't be difficult for the system to detect.
Hop in field gun.
Miscalibrate your stick.
Done.
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Or have a trained monkey fly Brewsters around until you get home from work, or put your keyboard in the bottom of the hampster cage :D
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:rofl
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I don't think it would be appropriate to start another thread on the subject. So I'll post my opinion here.
Would it work if we had the ability to check a box (like we do to say "AFK") that would take us off the ENY list. Creating a new category. Inflight, in tower, and AFK. If you have no movement for over 10 minutes you are considered AFK (if you are not in a gv, manned gun or in flight at the time, like in a 2 hour climbout). When you come back to the game, you uncheck the box, so now you are back. Then, you must wait up to 10 - 30 seconds before leaving the tower so you can be re-calculated into the ENY system. So it would treat you as though you just logged on/in.
When the player has no movement for 10+ mins, it will give a pop-up (akin to the alt-f4 popup) that says "You are regarded as afk (brief explanation of the above), uncheck the box provided to be able to fly again.
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I don't think it would be appropriate to start another thread on the subject. So I'll post my opinion here.
Would it work if we had the ability to check a box (like we do to say "AFK") that would take us off the ENY list. Creating a new category. Inflight, in tower, and AFK. If you have no movement for over 10 minutes you are considered AFK (if you are not in a gv, manned gun or in flight at the time, like in a 2 hour climbout). When you come back to the game, you uncheck the box, so now you are back. Then, you must wait up to 10 - 30 seconds before leaving the tower so you can be re-calculated into the ENY system. So it would treat you as though you just logged on/in.
When the player has no movement for 10+ mins, it will give a pop-up (akin to the alt-f4 popup) that says "You are regarded as afk (brief explanation of the above), uncheck the box provided to be able to fly again.
read thread.
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Or have a trained monkey fly Brewsters around until you get home from work, or put your keyboard in the bottom of the hampster cage :D
:rofl
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the afk box after 10 mins is an idea...a bad idea. what if you have an m3 or goon hidden near an enemy town and it took along time to drive there,and your waiting for your friendly mission to come in and white flag the town and just as your about to go into the town, a box pops up that you have to deal with...........this sounds like the box we use to have for a request to join your plane that would pop up right in the middle of the screen.....while you were dogfighting,lol......it could cost you the base capture. how many base capture have been lost by literally 1 second? due to the town popping or an enemy strafing your last troop going in the map room. and you would be saying"if that darn box hadnt popped up and cost me time to deal with we could have had that base!!!"....sounds like a good way to get more people to plat...NOT :rofl
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the afk box after 10 mins is an idea...a bad idea. what if you have an m3 or goon hidden near an enemy town and it took along time to drive there,and your waiting for your friendly mission to come in and white flag the town and just as your about to go into the town, a box pops up that you have to deal with...........this sounds like the box we use to have for a request to join your plane that would pop up right in the middle of the screen.....while you were dogfighting,lol......it could cost you the base capture. how many base capture have been lost by literally 1 second? due to the town popping or an enemy strafing your last troop going in the map room. and you would be saying"if that darn box hadnt popped up and cost me time to deal with we could have had that base!!!"....sounds like a good way to get more people to plat...NOT :rofl
If you are in an M3, you would be "in flight" so the option to set yourself as "Inactive" wouldn't be there, so no popup to start rolling again.
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then why bother, you can just spawn an m3 in a rear base and nothing will change.
semp
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The way I see it, as primitive as it is, players pay for their subscriptions and if they want to stay logged in for whatever reason, then so be it. I am sure this isn't going to be popular with some
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The way I see it, as primitive as it is, players pay for their subscriptions and if they want to stay logged in for whatever reason, then so be it. I am sure this isn't going to be popular with some
Agreed, but Tinkles idea was to allow voluntarily setting yourself inactive. Makes sense to me. You stay logged in but your presence doesn't add to ENY issue for your chess piece. No one gets forced to do anything and no reason to buy a trained monkey to get around anything. Doesn't fix the guys that stay logged in and walk away to go golfing without caring or realizing they left themselves logged in, but allows players that want to stay logged but not add to the ENY, an option. I don't think folks who stay logged in are doing it with hopes of limiting their own country's plane choices.
That said, ENY doesn't bother me. I like flying a lot of the planes that are always available and usually tank in a Panzer F.
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Agreed, but Tinkles idea was to allow voluntarily setting yourself inactive. Makes sense to me. You stay logged in but your presence doesn't add to ENY issue for your chess piece. No one gets forced to do anything and no reason to buy a trained monkey to get around anything. Doesn't fix the guys that stay logged in and walk away to go golfing without caring or realizing they left themselves logged in, but allows players that want to stay logged but not add to the ENY, an option. I don't think folks who stay logged in are doing it with hopes of limiting their own country's plane choices.
That said, ENY doesn't bother me. I like flying a lot of the planes that are always available and usually tank in a Panzer F.
Same here, I rarely fly any plane under 20-30 ENY.
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lol this is an even funnier solution...think of it...you volantarily log yourself as INACTIVE(afk) you do not count toward eny.....but since you are logged in,you continue to fly therefore getting those 5 eny planes when your side has 40-50 more players and eny should be in effect...great solution,yeah,sounds like that will work....no,it wont. and if your next post is going to be...well,if your inactive and your eny dosent count,you cant up any aircraft or vehicles......that is already in game...its called logging off,lol :rofl
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lol this is an even funnier solution...think of it...you volantarily log yourself as INACTIVE(afk) you do not count toward eny.....but since you are logged in,you continue to fly therefore getting those 5 eny planes when your side has 40-50 more players and eny should be in effect...great solution,yeah,sounds like that will work....no,it wont. and if your next post is going to be...well,if your inactive and your eny dosent count,you cant up any aircraft or vehicles......that is already in game...its called logging off,lol :rofl
Seriously, at least read before posting a response like this.
You check the box, when the box is checked 2 things happen. #1 You don't count towards the ENY, so your side doesn't suffer if you are afk. #2, you cannot occupy a plane, vehicle or gun position, nor join anyone as a gunner or observer. When you uncheck the box, you must wait 15-30 seconds for the system to add you to your sides ENY calculations. When the box is unchecked and the system has you in the ENY, you can occupy a plane, vehicle, or gun position, and join anyone as a gunner or observer.
I had already explained this in the previous post. Instead of being a jerk about it, why not actually contribute something to the thread, we already have enough pot stirring volunteers as it is.
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the afk box after 10 mins is an idea...a bad idea. what if you have an m3 or goon hidden near an enemy town and it took along time to drive there,and your waiting for your friendly mission to come in and white flag the town and just as your about to go into the town, a box pops up that you have to deal with...........this sounds like the box we use to have for a request to join your plane that would pop up right in the middle of the screen.....while you were dogfighting,lol......it could cost you the base capture. how many base capture have been lost by literally 1 second? due to the town popping or an enemy strafing your last troop going in the map room. and you would be saying"if that darn box hadnt popped up and cost me time to deal with we could have had that base!!!"....sounds like a good way to get more people to plat...NOT :rofl
Those who are inflight (which includes those occupying a gun position or being in a vehicle) wouldn't get this. Because you are participating in the 'war effort'. Bombers and Fighters on AFK climbouts would also not receive this message, because they aren't in the tower. My 'idea' was meant for those who are in the tower. Sure, you could easily bypass it by other methods, going afk in a gun position or parking in a vehicle, uncalibrate your stick and your fine.
It wouldn't pop up in any of the scenarios you said (above), because you are participating in the war effort at that time. The message would only come up if you hadn't done anything in 10+ mins, and only if you were in the tower. Again, occupying a gun, ship or field position, being a Vehicle or Aircraft would make the popup unavailable to you, because you are playing the game. It's the ones in the tower who are AFK that my idea was for.
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tinkles, hitech already mention that those who want to stay logged in without playing for whatever reason it is will stay logged in using a number of things.
so why bother to coad anything so the couple of people that will "want to lower the eny for a good reason" also have the option to just log off. and if they just want to annoy or "keep the eny high" they will just up in a rear base and up a gv or perhaps go to a manned gun position and just make it spin.
in other words why coad something that can easily be bypassed. wont that be a waste of time?
semp
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tinkles, hitech already mention that those who want to stay logged in without playing for whatever reason it is will stay logged in using a number of things.
so why bother to coad anything so the couple of people that will "want to lower the eny for a good reason" also have the option to just log off. and if they just want to annoy or "keep the eny high" they will just up in a rear base and up a gv or perhaps go to a manned gun position and just make it spin.
in other words why coad something that can easily be bypassed. wont that be a waste of time?
semp
I see your point. The only reason I suggested my idea in the first place was so those who don't want to contribute to the ENY, but still want to be in the game can do so without 'hindering' their fellow 'country-men' on the uber rides.
Honestly, I'm not sure of how much work it would be for HTC to implement my idea. Nor do I know if the costs (time, labor etc) are worth the potential gain.
:salute
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I see your point. The only reason I suggested my idea in the first place was so those who don't want to contribute to the ENY, but still want to be in the game can do so without 'hindering' their fellow 'country-men' on the uber rides.
Honestly, I'm not sure of how much work it would be for HTC to implement my idea. Nor do I know if the costs (time, labor etc) are worth the potential gain.
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Tinkles, rule #1 when wanting to make a change, don't only look at what you think the potential gain will be. Rule #1 is first look at how your idea can be exploited, and hence potential loss instead of gain.
HiTech
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thank you roy, and that was the intent of this thread as a response to someone else's thread. i think the real questions should be.....1 why do people go afk for long periods of time in the first place? i think sometimes they want to contribute to eny while they are inactive, other times they just want to be logged in if there is a war win and they get the 75 perk points, other times<and i have done it myself, it is un-intentional. a guy gets up to get a drink or bathroom break,or whatever, he gets distracted and forgets hes logged on................the same happens to people that are logged on sometimes. they might want to a bomber strat run, go afk on climb out and get distracted in real life....theit planes fly off the map for ages run out of gas...end of sortie.
and 2 why is it such a big dea?l, learn to fly higher eny planes,have fun,participate,and not worry about eny. :banana:
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Tinkles. I get it if thats any consolation. :D
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it's nobody's business why i go afk--if by some chance the knights get a eny that won't let me fly a low eny plane or gv--i uses something else--eny is meaningless to me. the p-51d or the panzer h--are my favorite plane and tank..if i can"t use these i use something else
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Tinkles, rule #1 when wanting to make a change, don't only look at what you think the potential gain will be. Rule #1 is first look at how your idea can be exploited, and hence potential loss instead of gain.
HiTech
I know that, I thought I did that with my idea. By giving the time-delay before being able to take off again, so the system could 're-add' you to the ENY. So you don't get a mass of people who would click the box to get the ENY lowered, then get a mission and take off with it. That is the whole point of the 15-30 second delay.
What exactly did you see with my idea that would've made it exploitable? Unless there is something I thought of but didn't say, I couldn't find anything that would've made it exploitable.
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it would be pretty easy to organize a mission have them sit in the tower then spawn after a 15 second delay.
if it's longer then it might not get used.
semp
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it would be pretty easy to organize a mission have them sit in the tower then spawn after a 15 second delay.
if it's longer then it might not get used.
semp
I don't know how long it would take the system to re-add the player into the ENY calculations/equation. I only put the timer (15-30 seconds) because I don't know that information. I suspect that HiTech would know it. If it takes the system 5 seconds, then have it be 5 seconds. I think Aspen is the only one who understood what I was saying.
I'm going to simplify it, if possible.
When you are in the tower right now, you count towards ENY. Since you are not contributing anything to the war effort, or the game in general. However, you are contributing to the ENY because you are online, yet not flying/driving/or being in a gun. If you are in the TOWER, you can click on a check box (like we have for "afk") and it will take you out of the ENY calculations. So if 1 player = 5 ENY then ENY would be 5 less if you clicked that check box.
Now, when you are back and want to fly, you simply click the check box. You wait however many second(s) for the ENY to add you back to the equation, using my previous example, +5 ENY. Once you have been added back into the ENY, you can take off (and now join missions). When the box is checked, you can't join missions, because you aren't in the equation of ENY.
Meaning, you wouldn't be able to have 50 players click the check box to bring ENY to 0, then launch a mission to have ENY at 30+. Simply, because when you click that check box, you basically disable being able to do anything except talk and use the clipboard. So no joining missions, or launching out of the tower being 'invisible' from the ENY system.
When you are afk for more than 10 mins, an pop-up appears informing you that you have been marked as "afK" and to click the check box (auto checked) to get back into the game. When you un-check the box, you wait however long (could be instant or a few seconds) and then volia, you are back in the game to do whatever you want.
This pop-up would NOT occur when you are flying, driving, sitting in a gun, or even swimming in the ocean as a pilot. It would ONLY occur when you are in the tower. This wouldn't pop-up on any of the aforementioned simply because when you are in a Gun, Ship or Field, Fighter, Bomber or Vehicle you are contributing to the fight. You are an open target for any other player (enemy) to interact with and kill you. They can't kill you while you are afk in the tower folding laundry. They can kill you while you are afk in your bomber climbing while you cook dinner.
Final Case and Point.
When you are in the tower, you still count towards ENY. When you are afk in the tower, you aren't contributing anything to the war effort, no one can kill you or see you. However, you still count toward your sides 'Eny Penalty'. Having this auto-check box after a few mins of no actions, would make it so other players on the same side wouldn't be 'punished' or 'penalized' for having afk players. And it's only 1 click for the player who was afk, to get back into the game. So it's not a major inconvenience for them, and I think it would at least help a little bit with all the ENY complaints, both on the BBS and In-Game.
If you still don't understand it, or see a way it could be exploited, then please say what you think could be exploited or what you don't understand here. And I will do my best not to go :furious on you ( :D ) and answer your question(s).
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You are trying to solve a non existent problem.
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You are trying to solve a non existent problem.
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You are trying to solve a non existent problem.
So, would you concur that the solution would be to do nothing?
I like it :aok
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The way I see it, as primitive as it is, players pay for their subscriptions and if they want to stay logged in for whatever reason, then so be it. I am sure this isn't going to be popular with some
Hear, hear!
Hear, hear!
This just another rule to choke someone else.
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I'm not fond of keeping them connected as they're providing nothing to the arena for their side. However, there are people who would say if you're not in the horde taking bases for your country, you're providing nothing to the arena for your side too.
There are a couple legitimate reasons for it, and a whole lot of lame ones, but I have to agree it's just not worth the bother to code it out. People who want to use it for lameness will be able to do so no matter what they do.
Wiley.