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Title: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: deadstikmac on May 29, 2014, 03:18:53 PM
35-40 eny birds are your friend... learn them, love them and go rape LateWar studs with them!

The trick is too never get over 5k alt  :devil
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Debrody on May 29, 2014, 03:20:22 PM
+1  yeah baby!

109F and D11 Jug for ever!
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Lusche on May 29, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
The Komet should be ENY 40  :old:
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Slate on May 29, 2014, 03:25:05 PM
  Everyone fly the P40e, It's the only plane I haven't killed in LW.  :ahand
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Latrobe on May 29, 2014, 04:17:54 PM
The best planes are all 30 ENY or higher!  :aok :aok
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Reaper90 on May 29, 2014, 05:36:03 PM
Yak-7b or Yak-9T.

Makes 'em cry every time.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Karnak on May 29, 2014, 05:39:25 PM
I continue to be baffled how a bird with four centerline Hispanos, decent ammo, 2,000lbs of bombs, 357mph on the deck and a 3700fpm climb rate can deliver all of that at 30 ENY.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: palef on May 29, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
Yak-7b or Yak-9T.

Makes 'em cry every time.

With you there bud. Yak 7 is my current favourite.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: SilverZ06 on May 29, 2014, 06:20:41 PM
38G ftw!
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Devil 505 on May 29, 2014, 06:32:40 PM
I continue to be baffled how a bird with four centerline Hispanos, decent ammo, 2,000lbs of bombs, 357mph on the deck and a 3700fpm climb rate can deliver all of that at 30 ENY.

Because it's ugly!  :bolt:
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: RSLQK186 on May 29, 2014, 06:33:53 PM
I continue to be baffled how a bird with four centerline Hispanos, decent ammo, 2,000lbs of bombs, 357mph on the deck and a 3700fpm climb rate can deliver all of that at 30 ENY.
Shhhh! They may wise up and change it. Especialy if they find out how many of my duces it has paid for.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Wiley on May 29, 2014, 08:02:26 PM
I continue to be baffled how a bird with four centerline Hispanos, decent ammo, 2,000lbs of bombs, 357mph on the deck and a 3700fpm climb rate can deliver all of that at 30 ENY.

Because it is a target of Brobdingnagian proportions.

Wiley.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Volron on May 29, 2014, 08:14:56 PM
A6M3  :D  (Honestly, I forgot what it's ENY is :o)
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: bozon on May 30, 2014, 01:41:52 AM
I continue to be baffled how a bird with four centerline Hispanos, decent ammo, 2,000lbs of bombs, 357mph on the deck and a 3700fpm climb rate can deliver all of that at 30 ENY.
Shoosh you!
It is just a big target, outclassed by all MA fighters.

Nothing to see here... Move along... Just a weather balloon...
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: zack1234 on May 30, 2014, 01:44:43 AM
Yak-7b or Yak-9T.

Makes 'em cry every time.

Yes
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 30, 2014, 04:56:09 AM
Because it is a target of Brobdingnagian proportions.

Wiley.

 A good word... Right out of Gulliver. Not sure if the author coined it but my guess is, he did.
Actually, both f-4 and p40e are fun ones. I actually sort of like that 39q as well.

 I'm far from the best stick in the game but what fun is there in always doing the lala/pony/sixteen thing anyway?

It's far more interesting to try to make a more difficult ride into a winner. Even the g14 will reward kills with nice poikie counts.

Btw, I'm kind of wondering what the relative k+d is on Yak3. Everyone was sort of afraid, IMO, prior to its deployment, that it'd be both uber and unbalancing. I hardly ever see 'em...
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: mbailey on May 30, 2014, 05:01:42 AM
KI61   nuff said   :D
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: danny76 on May 30, 2014, 05:03:03 AM
I continue to be baffled how a bird with four centerline Hispanos, decent ammo, 2,000lbs of bombs, 357mph on the deck and a 3700fpm climb rate can deliver all of that at 30 ENY.

Because it is useable by about 1/15th of the playerbase. Other than that it's a ho wagon with little else. Well flown it's hard to beat, I would love to learn it, tried but failed :mad:

If at first you don't succeed, it's probably not worth the effort :old:
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Reaper90 on May 30, 2014, 05:25:19 AM
KI61   nuff said   :D

 :aok
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Pawz on May 30, 2014, 05:32:11 AM
38G makes em cry all the time
 :cry
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: RotBaron on May 30, 2014, 05:42:56 AM

Btw, I'm kind of wondering what the relative k+d is on Yak3. Everyone was sort of afraid, IMO, prior to its deployment, that it'd be both uber and unbalancing. I hardly ever see 'em...

Current tour: 1.13

2520 vs 2226 atm

More kills than the G-14 atm, but worse k/d.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php

Interesting other facts, hmmm 12k+ kills for the Pony, Spit16 6K+, La7 ~6k, ppl aren't really challenging themselves in the E/M war rides.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Lusche on May 30, 2014, 06:14:31 AM
Btw, I'm kind of wondering what the relative k+d is on Yak3. Everyone was sort of afraid, IMO, prior to its deployment, that it'd be both uber and unbalancing. I hardly ever see 'em...


(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/npfa2a_zpsdfe7a057.jpg)

X-axis K/D, Y-axis K+D (usage). Strictly air to air combat only.
All perked fighters are way outside the chart to the right. Yak-3 is marked.

Remarkably little impact for such a 'magic wonderbird', if you ask me ;)
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: bozon on May 30, 2014, 06:42:51 AM
Remarkably little impact for such a 'magic wonderbird', if you ask me ;)
Like many of the La7s and Spit16s it is often very poorly flown. It does not have the reputation of the spit or the raw speed and cannon power of the La7 to be as popular.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 30, 2014, 07:23:48 AM

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/npfa2a_zpsdfe7a057.jpg)

X-axis K/D, Y-axis K+D (usage). Strictly air to air combat only.
All perked fighters are way outside the chart to the right. Yak-3 is marked.

Remarkably little impact for such a 'magic wonderbird', if you ask me ;)

Exactly the chart I was hoping to see again...

Yes, Yak-3 appears to be, as opposed to a wunderkind, a bit of a dull child. It might, I suppose, attract its own cult one day. Until then, its remarkably ordinary.

Here is where, perhaps, the sim teaches us something about history. While the Luftwaffe boys were certainly warned about the Yak-3 in a turn fight, it does not appear to be an invincible foe for a well-flown 109. Not uber... not uber at all... and not as popular as the usual suspects. It reminds me of how crestfallen I was (initially) to find that the Dora turned like a SuperTanker.


BTW, when do we get the G-10 back? There'd be a nice poikie boid. K-4 performance with 20mil ballistics. I have, here in the politically correct confines of Ford,  a nice pic of a G-10/U4 named GiGi from JG52.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Zerstorer on May 30, 2014, 08:37:29 AM
I continue to be baffled how a bird with four centerline Hispanos, decent ammo, 2,000lbs of bombs, 357mph on the deck and a 3700fpm climb rate can deliver all of that at 30 ENY.

 :aok

And yet the 110G rates a 15 (or at least it did last time I looked).

Damn you, HTC. Damn you sir.  :)
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Zerstorer on May 30, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
A6M3  :D  (Honestly, I forgot what it's ENY is :o)

:aok

I think its 35 or 30?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Triton28 on May 30, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
38G ftw!

 :banana:
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: BnZs on May 30, 2014, 09:19:53 AM
The Yak3 is like a slightly faster, slightly worse turning, less well-armed late model Spitfire. Nothing about it is all that outside of the typical parameters for late war birds.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: save on May 30, 2014, 09:34:20 AM
Exactly the chart I was hoping to see again...

Yes, Yak-3 appears to be, as opposed to a wunderkind, a bit of a dull child. It might, I suppose, attract its own cult one day. Until then, its remarkably ordinary.

Here is where, perhaps, the sim teaches us something about history. While the Luftwaffe boys were certainly warned about the Yak-3 in a turn fight, it does not appear to be an invincible foe for a well-flown 109. Not uber... not uber at all... and not as popular as the usual suspects. It reminds me of how crestfallen I was (initially) to find that the Dora turned like a SuperTanker.


BTW, when do we get the G-10 back? There'd be a nice poikie boid. K-4 performance with 20mil ballistics. I have, here in the politically correct confines of Ford,  a nice pic of a G-10/U4 named GiGi from JG52.

Yak3 is hampered by short clip, and only 2 guns, with 3 guns like all AH La-7 has, it would kill like the LA7 does, I wish it to die as easy as the LA-7.
Dora still turns much better horizontal turns than the 190a8, sharing same wings  :headscratch:
Even more impressive is that the 190F8 according to charts turns exactly as good as its 500 kilo lighter A8,,,
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: BnZs on May 30, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
It reminds me of how crestfallen I was (initially) to find that the Dora turned like a SuperTanker.

OTOH, if it didn't turn that badly it would probably be perked. What doesn't the Dora do well, except for turning?
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: -ammo- on May 30, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
D11 FTW :cheers: :rock
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: pembquist on May 30, 2014, 12:25:38 PM
I'm a dunce cause I like the f4f as any idiot can fly its forgiving stall, indifference to compression, gun bloated, Kevlar skinned sneakiness to good effect. It never hurts to get shot down in as I can delude myself that its because its such an old plane and not really my skill that's at fault and if any body wanders into my bullet stream it makes me feel fantastic.

I just started using the 109f, and not being familiar with any of the line my first expletives involved the canopy eyepatches and this thing with the ground when trying to shoot ack. I was feeling smug about how long I was lasting against a nik but then I had to go look up the performance comparison on what's his names site and felt a little crushed. Still it gives off a glow of competence even if undeserved, (all plane no fighter? (As in all hat no cattle.))

Now put me up in a d-9 la7 -4 tempest or, god forbid, a 262 and I'm dead in seconds for sure, plummeting with tears in my eyes and mocking laughter ringing in my ears to a crater of futily consumed perk points or just plane old shame and embarrassment.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: Wiley on May 30, 2014, 12:43:47 PM
My main ride knocking around the MA is the D11.  Twistiest jug of the bunch, can keep up with most of the planeset as long as it's got alt on the bandit, 8x50s, bombers just give you an oil leak unless they really get a good shot on you.  Plus it got a bump from 30 to 35 ENY which makes the perks flow even faster.

I've been bouncing around to quite a few different planes lately though.  I want to like the 109F but the guns are simply not large enough for my needs. :D  Mossie is just plain fun and performs a lot better than I thought it would, but it makes me look fat when I have to get defensive in it.

Most of the high ENY planes are usable for me, but I just can't stand the P39 and P40 series.  I think it's because I rely too much on engine power to win.

Wiley.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: TheCrazyOrange on May 30, 2014, 02:06:15 PM
109E, Ki-43, FM2, P-40F, 110C.
Title: Re: High ENY birds and YOU
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on May 30, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
109E, Ki-43, FM2, P-40F, 110C.

Ah, that's a good one. That ki-43 is the turniest of turnbirds. You can saddle up on anything... which is good, because it'll take a while for the cowl guns to do their work. Still, love the bird.

I haven't tried the F version of the AirTurd but I've spent some time on the N and E and even the B.