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Title: Bomb damage
Post by: BowHTR on June 12, 2014, 05:47:55 PM
Does anyone happen to know the amount of damage done for each sized GP bomb?

Example, 1000lb bomb does 1000lbs damage, 250lb bomb does 313lbs dmage and so forth.
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Lusche on June 12, 2014, 05:51:35 PM
GP bombs:

4000lb - 3125   (not longer in game)
2000lb - 1718
1000lb - 1000
500lb - 562
250lb - 313
100lb - 156

AP= +50% damage, -80% radius
SAP= +25% damage, -67% radius
HC/LC= -25% damage, +25% radius (4k cookie)

metric bombs (kg) work along the same lines)
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: BowHTR on June 12, 2014, 05:52:48 PM
Thanks Lusche, i knew you would be along shorty!  :salute
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: xPoisonx on June 12, 2014, 05:53:09 PM
GP bombs:

4000lb - 3125   (not longer in game)
2000lb - 1718
1000lb - 1000
500lb - 562
250lb - 313
100lb - 156

AP= +50% damage, -80% radius
SAP= +25% damage, -67% radius
HC/LC= -25% damage, +25% radius (4k cookie)

metric bombs (kg) work along the same lines)


Any reason why they do this? Why not just have the bombs do their listed damage?  :)
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Lusche on June 12, 2014, 05:53:36 PM
Thanks Lusche, i knew you would be along shorty!  :salute


Don't call me shorty!  :furious



 :D
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: The Fugitive on June 12, 2014, 07:11:53 PM

Don't call me shorty!  :furious



 :D


Ya!!!! He prefers "Little Person"   :P
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Coalcat1 on June 12, 2014, 07:23:32 PM

Don't call me shorty!  :furious



 :D
He may have thought it was snail jr. learning the ropes  :)
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Volron on June 12, 2014, 08:40:20 PM
GP bombs:

4000lb - 3125   (not longer in game)
2000lb - 1718
1000lb - 1000
500lb - 562
250lb - 313
100lb - 156

AP= +50% damage, -80% radius
SAP= +25% damage, -67% radius
HC/LC= -25% damage, +25% radius (4k cookie)

metric bombs (kg) work along the same lines)


Isn't the 4k bomb in the B-29 GP's?  I don't remember it stating them being HC/LC. :headscratch:
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Lusche on June 12, 2014, 08:45:17 PM
Isn't the 4k bomb in the B-29 GP's?  I don't remember it stating them being HC/LC. :headscratch:


That's because the "LC" part of the bomb tag is hidden by the wing in the hangar. But you can check it in the pickup mission builder, loudout selection  :old:
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Volron on June 12, 2014, 08:50:34 PM

That's because the "LC" part of the bomb tag is hidden by the wing in the hangar. But you can check it in the pickup mission builder, loudout selection  :old:

Ah.  Could've sworn... :noid  Went to check and if you move the camera around a little, you'll see that the #4 engine actually covers up the C. :lol
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Dragon Tamer on June 12, 2014, 09:10:17 PM
Ah.  Could've sworn... :noid  Went to check and if you move the camera around a little, you'll see that the #4 engine actually covers up the C. :lol

First, why would you question the snail?

Second, the B-29 is so awesome that it leaves little room for anything else in the hangar.
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Karnak on June 12, 2014, 11:23:10 PM
Any reason why they do this? Why not just have the bombs do their listed damage?  :)
Smaller bombs are more efficient.  A lot of the blast from larger bombs gets wasted. The blast radius of a 1000lb bomb is not twice that of a 500lb bomb.

Or gameplay balance.
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: SilverZ06 on June 12, 2014, 11:23:38 PM
When was the 4000lb bomb removed from the game and why?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Lusche on June 12, 2014, 11:25:43 PM
When was the 4000lb bomb removed from the game and why?  :headscratch:

the 4K GP was removed when the new types were added. It's now replaced with the HC/LC versions
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Volron on June 13, 2014, 12:58:12 AM
First, why would you question the snail?

Second, the B-29 is so awesome that it leaves little room for anything else in the hangar.

 :lol
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 13, 2014, 07:24:22 AM
For comparison's sake, a flight of Mossi B Mk 16's armed only with the 4000 lb "cookie" HC bombs will not be able to sink a CV as they will only do roughly 7031 lbs in damage (3126 x .75 x 3).  Keep in mind the splash damage of the HC/LC bombs is GREATER by 25%, so anything with a hardness factor of less than 2343 lbs within the blast area will be leveled.  They work great on towns and factories.  :aok  
 
I forget the exact damage that it takes to sink a CV without digging in to my files, but it is near 7800 lbs.

btw.... her are the metric bombs damage in pounds:

50 kg = 172 lbs
60 kg = 206 lbs
100 kg = 275 lbs
250 kg = 615 lbs
500 kg = 1100 lbs
800 kg = 1443 lbs
1000 kg = 2835 lbs
2000 kg = 3403 lbs

1 kg = 2.2 lbs (roughly), so a 500kg bomb is roughly the same weight/size/power of a 1000lb bomb.  The 1000 lb bomb and the 500kg bombs are the only bombs with the same weight to damage ratio, they are the "control".

I encourage people to take a look at a flight of G4M armed with the 800 kg AP bomb when going after a CV, especially one that has damage. Those 3 bombs alone do 6400+ lbs of damage, pretty impressive really.  The Me410 can carry 2/500 kg SAP bombs, together they do just shy of 3000lbs of damage.  The B5N, D3A, SBD, Stuka, 190F-8, and a few others all carry AP or SAP bombs of sort.  I highly suggest them for single OBJ's.   :aok



Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: BowHTR on June 13, 2014, 05:30:50 PM
Anyone know about the torpedoes? Does a 800kg torpe deliver 1446lbs of damage?
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 14, 2014, 08:17:23 PM
Anyone know about the torpedoes? Does a 800kg torpe deliver 1446lbs of damage?

Not sure about actual damage in terms of lbs, but it takes 2 US torpedoes to sink a CV and 3 German or Japanese torpedoes to sink a CV. It takes 1 torpedo of either kind to sink the cruise or destroyer.

Keep in mind HTC has the torps modeled the way they do to reflect where the torps impact the ships (below water line).
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Crash Orange on June 15, 2014, 01:25:01 AM
Anyone know about the torpedoes? Does a 800kg torpe deliver 1446lbs of damage?

I believe damage from torpedoes is twice what the weight would otherwise indicate. So US torps are the equivalent of around 4,000 lbs. and Axis are somewhere in the ballpark of 3600 lbs.
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: Lusche on June 15, 2014, 06:38:20 AM
US torp delivers 4,687 lbs of damage
Interestingly I just found the Japanese torpedo from the B5N to do exactly the same damage.
Title: Re: Bomb damage
Post by: bangsbox on June 17, 2014, 01:03:21 PM
US torp delivers 4,687 lbs of damage
Interestingly I just found the Japanese torpedo from the B5N to do exactly the same damage.

Is that the same torp that the betty uses?
(the one with the black tip/ i believe its suppose to be the longlance).