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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Tracers on June 13, 2014, 03:47:18 AM
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Mossie VI.. I love the cannons, I hate that it's made of of paper lol.
What plane do you both love and hate?
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109K4. The plane is just a BEAST, but the gun sometimes decides it doesn't want to work. :(
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I love all the planes... Just hate how those wings tend to fall off...
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109G14
Not as much of a beast as the K4, little more sophisticated :D, but same issues with the gun.
Just tends to be moody....
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The Mossi is my favorite attack plane. The 4/500lb bombs and quad 20's (and quad .30 cals!!!) in the nose offer a great platform. It simply **needs** to stay fast. The 8/60 pdr rockets are a gem, too. Many people do not realize that if they are trying to take down a single large OBJ (hanger, SB), that the 8/60 pdr rockets provide more oomph than than 2/500 lb bombs. :aok
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Mossie VI.. I love the cannons, I hate that it's made of of paper lol.
You got it reversed - paper is made of recycled mossies. Fly a mossie, save Europe and the environment! True it is very fragile, especially considering its reputation for absorbing damage. Consider it a balancing factor because otherwise it would have to be perked. Look at the mossie XVI - the coolness factor alone merited a perk tag.
Speaking of perks, the VI is a crazy perk farmer. The most common fighters you engage will be worth 6 perks a pop before modifiers. Fly for a lesser populated country and land to get the 1.25 factor bonus and you can collect 8-9 perks a kill (Spit16s, La7s, P51D...). The XVI bomber easily pays for itself every 5 sorties or so, just bombing towns and hangars assisting base captures, while flying a single plane. For me XVI is totally free because to my recollection I never lost one, despite flying it in the tactical role and under 15k. Even killed some GV's with it and maneuver kills, making it the plane with the highest K/D that I fly...
The Mossi is my favorite attack plane. The 4/500lb bombs and quad 20's (and quad .30 cals!!!) in the nose offer a great platform. It simply **needs** to stay fast. The 8/60 pdr rockets are a gem, too. Many people do not realize that if they are trying to take down a single large OBJ (hanger, SB), that the 8/60 pdr rockets provide more oomph than than 2/500 lb bombs. :aok
Rockets total more damage than the two wing bombs. However, the rocket rails leave so much drag after the rockets are launched that the mossie goes from a great fighter to a meh. They are so inaccurate (no convergence) that they are only useful against large structures. I never take rockets if there is any chance that I will go A2A during the sortie.
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I hate mossies, and hunt them with the vehemence of a crusader trying to take back the holy land. Nothing that good deserves that high of an ENY, and so I try to kill them before they get even a single kill.
. 50's, hispanos, mg 151's, 30mm's, BnZ, TnB, and suicide hos in the A8, it doesn't matter. The mossie must die!!!
I also love them because they're usually pretty easy kills.
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Rockets total more damage than the two wing bombs. However, the rocket rails leave so much drag after the rockets are launched that the mossie goes from a great fighter to a meh. They are so inaccurate (no convergence) that they are only useful against large structures. I never take rockets if there is any chance that I will go A2A during the sortie.
I can respect the view that the rocket rails slow the Mossi a wee bit, but then again I focus on the mission at hand and hope my fighter cover comes through to get me in and out of the target zone safely. Needless to say, I dont elt it stop me from taking the rockets. :aok
As for aiming them, it is real simple: the rockets fly straight off the wing and will have a slight trajectory if fired from a great distance out. When I use the rockets on a hanger I don't think I've missed, have a sharp enough dive angle and they work like a charm. If the angle of attack is too shallow, then the chance of missing is higher, but I still not seem to have an issue. Truth be told I take the 8 rockets on the Typhoon instead of the pair of bombs, I can get 4 ords without firing a shot of cannon. That way, there is plenty to bring down the radar and hammer the convoy too. Dont let the wee bit of drag leave a foul taste in your mouth, if the rails cause a "death" then perhaps you shouldn't be in that position in the first place. ;)
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Speaking of perks, the VI is a crazy perk farmer. The most common fighters you engage will be worth 6 perks a pop before modifiers. Fly for a lesser populated country and land to get the 1.25 factor bonus and you can collect 8-9 perks a kill (Spit16s, La7s, P51D...).
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Ahh indeed it is... Landed many 20 to 30 perk sorties in that baby :airplane:
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IIRC the rails take 15mph off of the top speed. That isn't a "wee bit" in my book. It drops you back behind things like the P-38L, Spitfire Mk XVI and Ki-84.
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IIRC the rails take 15mph off of the top speed. That isn't a "wee bit" in my book. It drops you back behind things like the P-38L, Spitfire Mk XVI and Ki-84.
I have written in my notes a 8-9 mph penalty with empty rocket racks, and a 4-5 mph penalty with empty wing bomb racks. So when the penalty is indeed a wee bit, and especially if I have fighter cover available, it isn't worth mentioning. I don't ever take a Mossi up for fighter engagements or to hunt bombers otherwise I would leave bombs and rockets behind.
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109K4. The plane is just a BEAST, but the gun sometimes decides it doesn't want to work. :(
HTC just modeled the slave workers sabotaging every few rounds.
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I have written in my notes a 8-9 mph penalty with empty rocket racks, and a 4-5 mph penalty with empty wing bomb racks. So when the penalty is indeed a wee bit, and especially if I have fighter cover available, it isn't worth mentioning. I don't ever take a Mossi up for fighter engagements or to hunt bombers otherwise I would leave bombs and rockets behind.
I pretty much only take it up for fighter engagements... More fun to fly it than the usual "easy mode" fighters that pollute the skies. :rock
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The P-40. As a kid I always loved those shark teeth. It just always looked like a bad mofo. But in this game, being successful in it is damned near impossible especially in Late War. It's just no match for Spixteens, Doras, Brewsters, 51s, K4s ...so on and so forth. Even in the other arenas it has to contend with Hurricanes and Spitfires. In real life it's one of my all time favorites, but in this game it's only fit for scenarios where it has a fair chance. That's my opinion anyway.
If this game was any indication of it's impact in WW2, it wouldn't even get a honorable mention in the scheme of things.
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I love the 109E I just hate the AcesHigh 3D model has yet to be updated.
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I love the 109E I just hate the AcesHigh 3D model has yet to be updated.
It was updated when the other Bf109s were updated. That it isn't up to the standard of the newest models is simply something it shares with the older 2.0 models, which include things like the P-51s, Spitfires, Ki-84 and B-24.
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and?
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and?
Your claim that it hasn't been updated yet is false. It was updated.
It could use another update though. At least it is better than the Spitfires I and V or Seafire.
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I still hate that it has yet to be updated, don't be so bloody pedantic.
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The Mossie is great, dives, turns, has useful flaps, isnt too slow either, has AWESOME guns and racks up perks like crazy :aok
My volunteer would be the D9 (what a surprise hehe)
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German planes are poo :old:
Except the 262 which is really British :old:
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German planes are poo :old:
Except the 262 which is really British :old:
Thats why its uber poo :lol
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The P-40. As a kid I always loved those shark teeth. It just always looked like a bad mofo. But in this game, being successful in it is damned near impossible especially in Late War. It's just no match for Spixteens, Doras, Brewsters, 51s, K4s ...so on and so forth. Even in the other arenas it has to contend with Hurricanes and Spitfires. In real life it's one of my all time favorites, but in this game it's only fit for scenarios where it has a fair chance. That's my opinion anyway.
If this game was any indication of it's impact in WW2, it wouldn't even get a honorable mention in the scheme of things.
Your problem is that you're trying to play the P40 in MA and not in the historical time frame it was used in. Unfortunately online gamers seem to always go where the bar is the lowest, making any sort of realistic portrayal of anything impossible. They want instant satisfaction and get it by whatever means necessary. With that background i'm actually amazed that scenarios work as well as they seem to do. Scenarios were always the thing that I found the most fun in the end, even though sometimes flying on patrol for hours with no contacts mellowed down the experience. Still it felt more like a simulation of the real thing than what MA can ever deliver. The MA is more like Left4Dead in air.
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I still hate that it has yet to be updated, don't be so bloody pedantic.
Sorry, but I just don't like misinformation being spread. You could simply, and accurately, say "I would like the Bf109E-4 to be updated again." instead of spreading misinformation by saying it hasn't been updated yet when, in fact, it has.
Most people don't have trouble with the concept of telling the truth.
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The P-40. As a kid I always loved those shark teeth. It just always looked like a bad mofo. But in this game, being successful in it is damned near impossible especially in Late War. It's just no match for Spixteens, Doras, Brewsters, 51s, K4s ...so on and so forth. Even in the other arenas it has to contend with Hurricanes and Spitfires. In real life it's one of my all time favorites, but in this game it's only fit for scenarios where it has a fair chance. That's my opinion anyway.
If this game was any indication of it's impact in WW2, it wouldn't even get a honorable mention in the scheme of things.
Not impossible, you just have to put a lot of time into it. That guy "Stormdog" was a terror in the old P-40E, which I think was modeled closest to the P-40N we have now. I learned to knife fight in the old P-40E. It was a slaughter at first but eventually could hold my own against the average Joe. I even remember shooting your P-51 down in furball lake many years ago. :D
Here are my all-time P-40 stats. 1,683 "damn near impossible" kills. :) <booming voice from the sky> "If you fly it, the kills will come". :aok
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I love the 109E I just hate the AcesHigh 3D model has yet to be updated.
I actually think its the best looking 109 in game.
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Not impossible, you just have to put a lot of time into it. That guy "Stormdog" was a terror in the old P-40E, which I think was modeled closest to the P-40N we have now. I learned to knife fight in the old P-40E. It was a slaughter at first but eventually could hold my own against the average Joe. I even remember shooting your P-51 down in furball lake many years ago. :D
Here are my all-time P-40 stats. 1,683 "damn near impossible" kills. :) <booming voice from the sky> "If you fly it, the kills will come". :aok
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Hey man lets keep that on the down low :uhoh :lol
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Sorry, but I just don't like misinformation being spread. You could simply, and accurately, say "I would like the Bf109E-4 to be updated again." instead of spreading misinformation by saying it hasn't been updated yet when, in fact, it has.
Most people don't have trouble with the concept of telling the truth.
In some foreign tongue "Karnak" translates to rectum. Stop being one for no good reason for a change, many thanks in advance.
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Somebody's grumpy.
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In some foreign tongue "Karnak" translates to rectum. Stop being one for no good reason for a change, many thanks in advance.
You could just acknowledge that you were intentionally spreading lies. Somehow that is ok in your book, but point out that somebody is lying isn't ok.
Nice set of morals you have.
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You could just acknowledge that you were intentionally spreading lies. Somehow that is ok in your book, but point out that somebody is lying isn't ok.
Nice set of morals you have.
I was not intentionally spreading lies, what a stupid accusation. It hasn't been updated since I've been in aceshigh, stop being a dick.
Just to be clear, because you are intend on being a tool, I never said or stated "it has never been updated"
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Just to be clear, because you are intend on being a tool, I never said or stated "it has never been updated"
Yes you did:
I love the 109E I just hate the AcesHigh 3D model has yet to be updated.
"has yet to be", in English, means "has not happened yet".
In addition it is common knowledge that all planes with moving cockpit controls and recessed wheels have been updated. Look at the Bf109E-4 compared to, say, the Bf110s or A-20s, cockpit and exterior.
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You just got the explination of my context and you're still going on. OK, AcesHigh dropped the 2/II from it's name, therefore anything not up to date, modified, fixed, modelled are no longer up to date. So to say "it has yet to be updated" is truth in itself.
I asked you politely, why wont you stop? In addition to your false accusations are you just looking to have a feeling of superiority or just trolling?
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Given that we still have AH 1 graphics models in the game, the implication is that the 109E is also an AH 1 model.
Correct me if I'm wrong Karnak, but everything that's not AH 1 is technically the same graphics version, no?
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Given that we still have AH 1 graphics models in the game, the implication is that the 109E is also an AH 1 model.
Correct me if I'm wrong Karnak, but everything that's not AH 1 is technically the same graphics version, no?
Try this: jump in to a Ki-61. Take notice of the graphics of the interior, pay attention to the levers especially. Now hop in to the 109E and do the same. Tell us the difference. Draw your own conclusion. This goes for anyone who thinks their personal favorite is lagging behind in graphics.
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Try this: jump in to a Ki-61. Take notice of the graphics of the interior, pay attention to the levers especially. Now hop in to the 109E and do the same. Tell us the difference. Draw your own conclusion. This goes for anyone who thinks their personal favorite is lagging behitnd in graphics.
I'm well aware of AH1 vs AH2 graphics. I'm talking, say, the I-16 vs the Yak-3. They are technically the same graphics version, correct?
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I'm well aware of AH1 vs AH2 graphics. I'm talking, say, the I-16 vs the Yak-3. They are technically the same graphics version, correct?
For the most part, yes. There was a bump in the cockpit texture resolution introduced with the Mosquito Mk XVI. Given the Mosquito Mk VI was updated the version prior and that their cockpits use significantly similar polygons, you can jump between the two to see the difference in cockpit texture resolution.
Other than that the change was from AH1 to AH2 where moving cockpit controls and actual wheel wells were introduced. The first AH2 models, and they were new additions so no AH1 versions existed, were the B-24J, Ki-84-Ia and T-34/76. As computers have gotten more powerful HTC has gradually increased the polygon count, version by version, of newer models so things like the Ki-84 and Bf109s don't look as good as things like the Yaks and A6Ms.
Remaining AH1 models:
A-20G
Ar234B
B5N2
Bf110C-4b
Bf110G-2
Boston Mk III
D3A1
F4F-4
FM2
Ju88A-4
Ki-61-I-Tei
Ki-67
Me163
SBD-5
TBM-3 (I hear rumors this one is updated on internal builds, just not released yet)
Tempest Mk V