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Title: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Vulcan on June 16, 2014, 02:20:43 AM
Hitech you mentioned you had alpha code for the DK1, well the DK2 is not far off. With a higher rez screen, this new low latency low persistence stuff, and 6DoF tracking.

Rumour is they have orders for 40,000 units already (Oculus say they shipped more than 50000 DK1 kits... some people are quoting as high as 80000).

Will we get native rift DK2 support? (Already pre-ordered mine on announcement, so I'm expecting an early xmas present from Oculus :D )
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: FLOOB on June 16, 2014, 10:17:06 AM
Not likely since none of your puny infantile necks will support Oculus Rift!
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Kruel on June 16, 2014, 01:51:34 PM
Yessss, how is this going? This has the potential to attack many new players, and the old ones who get Oculus will both require/want easy integration.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 17, 2014, 02:28:28 PM
Chalenge has already declared the OR to be dead technology.

There are dead-end technologies like the Oculus technology that Facebook just bought.

But I for one hope that there is improved support for OR in AH as I also pre-ordered mine and expecting it in August.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Zerstorer on June 17, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
Chalenge has already declared the OR to be dead technology.

But I for one hope that there is improved support for OR in AH as I also pre-ordered mine and expecting it in August.

ack-ack

I declared that Facebook might kill it....but am somewhat more optimistic now as it looks like FB is taking a hands-off approach.

I have not pre-ordered the OR DR2 but am thinking about it.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Dragon Tamer on June 19, 2014, 10:53:11 PM
From what I've heard, the OR 2 has a 1080p resolution and 6DoF tracking (as already stated). So what would be the difference between the DK2 and the final product... or am I just asking stupid questions again?
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: mbailey on June 20, 2014, 05:31:22 AM
I just googled it to see what you were talking about,as im just not a tech guy.......in looking at it the first thing that came to mind is man that cant be good for your eyes...... 1970s mothers would be freaking out with that thing......we have gone from "dont sit so close to the TV or you will hurt your eyes....to "lets strap the tv to our head and put the screen 3inches from our eyes   :eek:
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Drano on June 20, 2014, 06:14:43 AM
I just googled it to see what you were talking about,as im just not a tech guy.......in looking at it the first thing that came to mind is man that cant be good for your eyes...... 1970s mothers would be freaking out with that thing......we have gone from "dont sit so close to the TV or you will hurt your eyes....to "lets strap the tv to our head and put the screen 3inches from our eyes   :eek:

Great minds Bailey! :aok I can't imagine that'd be good for your eyes. Whether it's virtual or not, you're still physically focusing on something almost literally on your eyeball for maybe hours at a time. My eyes are bad enough!
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Randy1 on June 20, 2014, 06:19:18 AM
I just googled it to see what you were talking about,as im just not a tech guy.......in looking at it the first thing that came to mind is man that cant be good for your eyes...... 1970s mothers would be freaking out with that thing......we have gone from "dont sit so close to the TV or you will hurt your eyes....to "lets strap the tv to our head and put the screen 3inches from our eyes   :eek:

What you are missing is the old DuMont TVs had an electron gun pointed right at your eyes.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: tmetal on June 20, 2014, 01:52:51 PM
I just googled it to see what you were talking about,as im just not a tech guy.......in looking at it the first thing that came to mind is man that cant be good for your eyes...... 1970s mothers would be freaking out with that thing......we have gone from "dont sit so close to the TV or you will hurt your eyes....to "lets strap the tv to our head and put the screen 3inches from our eyes   :eek:

I thought that the main reason the rift has stereoscopic projection is to simulate depth of field, so even though the physical screen is just inches away from your eyes, the virtual objects that the eyes focus on (and therefore the focal length of the eyes) can be "miles" away.  :headscratch:

maybe I am applying star trek flavored fictional science to the real world, but if I recall my optics class from college right most optical illusions work by tricking the eyes into focusing at a different distance than they normally would.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 20, 2014, 02:35:38 PM
The OR team just announced that the consumer version should be ready for prime time in the fall of 2015.

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Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Kruel on June 23, 2014, 11:20:30 AM
They said that last year, about the fall of this year.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: LCADolby on June 23, 2014, 12:11:44 PM
I wonder if it'll be like C+C, delay delay delay until everyone has forgotten about it.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Karnak on June 23, 2014, 12:18:31 PM
They said that last year, about the fall of this year.
I never saw a release announcement.  Heck, I still haven't other than Ack-Ack's claim.  When he said that I went to the Oculus site to see if they had defined specs for it and I couldn't even find an announcement.

I will note that they also have a lot more capital to work with than they did last year.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Chalenge on June 23, 2014, 05:38:38 PM
Chalenge has already declared the OR to be dead technology.

And at least one rather brilliant individual is in near agreement.

When I did the development for the rift with AH the, where did the key board go, issue told me it is not ready for prime time for most applications and would be pretty much useless in ah.

The resolution was such that you could not even read any text.

HiTech

Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Karnak on June 23, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
And at least one rather brilliant individual is in near agreement.

That statement wasn't agreeing with you.  It was highlighting the failures of the dev kit, something the Oculus guys also highlighted repeatedly.  Whether they have solved them effectively, well, we'll see.  I am somewhat skeptical that the passthrough camera will work successfully as the solution to the "where is the keyboard" problem.  I do believe that they have solved the latency, bluring and 6 degrees of freedom problems.  If the consumer version is 1440p it will be high enough resolution to work with.  I don't think 1080p will cut it.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 23, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
And at least one rather brilliant individual is in near agreement.


No, HiTech's comments do not validate your statement that "OR is dead technology".  Nice try though.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Chalenge on June 23, 2014, 11:11:36 PM
Yes it does. You are simply being slow to understand the true meaning.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: guncrasher on June 23, 2014, 11:37:03 PM
Yes it does. You are simply being slow to understand the true meaning.

challenge I believe that the meaning was that OR is not yet a valid technology.  Not exactly dead but it isnt a for sure thing either.   somebody spending a zillion dollars and made a few developers happy isnt exactly the same as it is the next big thing either.

 OR has been postponing their big release already.  makes me think that a one year delay is more of a "how drunk did we get when we made that offer" thing.

I think both sides are right and nobody is wrong yet, at least not for another year till it is or isnt proven.  but look on the bright side some developers made a bunch of money  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: to them.  let's just hope those who made the offer wont start thinking they over paid like the guy who bought the clippers  :uhoh.


semp
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Karnak on June 24, 2014, 07:20:25 AM
Yes it does. You are simply being slow to understand the true meaning.
"Not ready for prime time" is not the same as "dead end technology".  The first statement, HiTech's,  indicates that certain problems have to be addressed before it is ready, which the very fact that a consumer version has not been released confirms the Oculus team agreed with HiTech.  The second statement, yours, indicates that there is no future for the technology, that it is fundamentally and fatally flawed and cannot be proceeded with, that it should be entirely scrapped and rethought.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: jimson on June 24, 2014, 11:44:19 PM
Chalenge has already declared the OR to be dead technology.


Very doubtful. For one thing you can set AH up to where a keyboard is mostly unnecessary and one could create a flip mount for the HMD for when it is absolutely necessary.

Also, a camera could be added for another view. I suppose that is what the "pass through" concept is.

The biggest no go on all these like the vuzix models was unreadable text. If they truly have the resolution worked out this is going to work quite well.

In the other thread, Challenge called the virtuix omni dead as well, but these two combined will add an exercise component to gaming. I'd rather storm the beaches than jog around the park.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Vulcan on July 02, 2014, 11:35:09 PM
You lot do realize  that have been using various VR headsets on AH for over 8 years now?

 So all your ifs and  maybes are already prove wrong.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: guncrasher on July 03, 2014, 07:53:23 AM
You lot do realize  that have been using various VR headsets on AH for over 8 years now?

 So all your ifs and  maybes are already prove wrong.

the first I saw was in 1990 and it went nowhere,  which is where most are right now.  No guarantee they will be successful.   Well some developers are now millionaires but the product itself hasn't been successful. 

Who knows if it will ever be

semp
Title: Re: Oculus Rift DK2 due to ship in July - will HTC support it?
Post by: Zerstorer on July 03, 2014, 11:51:11 AM
Must. Resist. Urge. To. Buy. Oculus. DK2.  :D