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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Rich46yo on June 20, 2014, 07:12:27 AM
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This was used in WW2 by a number of platforms.
While about as accurate as HVARs its explosive power would bring an interesting addition to the game. Most of all if new targets were included in the new write like rail roads and convoys.
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Yes, please.
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It would bring a new level of overkill to the ol' rocket vulch.
+1
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This was used in WW2 by a number of platforms.
While about as accurate as HVARs its explosive power would bring an interesting addition to the game. Most of all if new targets were included in the new write like rail roads and convoys.
Interesting wish, I had never heard of the rocket.
Would you perk it?
Just on American planes I would presume.
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+1 :aok
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Interesting wish, I had never heard of the rocket.
Would you perk it?
Just on American planes I would presume.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Navy_rockets_enlarged.png)
It wouldn't need to be perked, it mounted on the wing pylons so you would have to trade bombs for a Tiny Tim.
It was basically a 500lb rocket powered SAP bomb. It was designed as a long range weapon for anti shipping operations, or as a bunker buster to use on cave entrances and hardened gun positions.
It was carried (usually) by B-25s, F4U, F6F, TBM, and the SB2C Helldiver which we'll get when the SBD is finally updated
It may have also been used on P-47Ns and A-26s, as seen in the video I've linked, but I can't find anything to confirm that.
Here's a video for your enjoyment: http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675059992_P-47N-Thunderbolt_Tiny-Tim-rockets-fired_Japanese-type-fortifications
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2012 wish as well.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,329932.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,329932.0.html)
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Not until I get my HS293D with a (Ju-88) cockpit joystick...
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I noticed in the film you fire your regular rockets first then the Tiny-Tims.
I found too where they used a P-38 as a test bed. Might be the P-38s were already heading for the scrap heap and were easy to come by at testing time.
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:aok love it
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There was a proposal to send Tiny Tim-armed Marine Corsairs operating from Escort Carriers against V-1 launch sites called Project Danny. Ended up being cancelled because Marshall refused to allow Marines in Europe.
Would be a blast for a scenario/FSO series:
1) Have a number of V-1 sites on the map.
2) Defenders receive a "target sector" containing a number of sites to protect, which the attackers must destroy.
3) Attackers would receive specific targets. Target types include V-1 sites, strat targets, cities, airfields, vehicle bases, etc.
4) Corsairs must carry Tiny Tims and can only be used to attack the V-1 sites. All other targets would be attacked by jabbos and level bombers.
5) Each target sector will contain one target to be destroyed. If the V-1 sites are the target, then all V-1 sites in that sector are the target (so if there's 6 launch sites in a target sector, then all 6 sites are considered as part of the same target).
6) The defenders would be charged with protecting everything in their target sector, without knowing whether it's the V-1 sites, strats, fields, etc. that are the specific targets.
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There was a proposal to send Tiny Tim-armed Marine Corsairs operating from Escort Carriers against V-1 launch sites called Project Danny. Ended up being cancelled because Marshall refused to allow Marines in Europe.
Would be a blast for a scenario/FSO series:
1) Have a number of V-1 sites on the map.
2) Defenders receive a "target sector" containing a number of sites to protect, which the attackers must destroy.
3) Attackers would receive specific targets. Target types include V-1 sites, strat targets, cities, airfields, vehicle bases, etc.
4) Corsairs must carry Tiny Tims and can only be used to attack the V-1 sites. All other targets would be attacked by jabbos and level bombers.
5) Each target sector will contain one target to be destroyed. If the V-1 sites are the target, then all V-1 sites in that sector are the target (so if there's 6 launch sites in a target sector, then all 6 sites are considered as part of the same target).
6) The defenders would be charged with protecting everything in their target sector, without knowing whether it's the V-1 sites, strats, fields, etc. that are the specific targets.
This kind of violence sounds really tasty.
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I believe that recoiless rifle was used more to mark the target for the rocket. I think it shot smoke for the incoming Jabo with the TT but Im not sure. It was used as a cave buster in Okinawa because the IJA was a big problem in caves, tunnels, and what not. The TT rocket had the HE power of a cruisers 12" shell.
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From that same site you can find a video of B-25H test firing the 75mm on the same range. Where a single TT made a 6'x30' trench. It took about 8 75mm to create the same trench against the mountain side.
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Wished for at least a few times:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,323136.0.html
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The pv-2 harpoon carried two in its bombay, not sure on the pv-1
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The pv-2 harpoon carried two in its bombay, not sure on the pv-1
The Ventura. That's a great looking airplane.
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I made a wish for it years ago, seeing as the commonwealth loved it, was more than capable of handling itself, and could outrun a zero. Nobody liked the idea. I know the tiny tim was used alot up in attu against the kurile islands.
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I made a wish for it years ago, seeing as the commonwealth loved it, was more than capable of handling itself, and could outrun a zero. Nobody liked the idea. I know the tiny tim was used alot up in attu against the kurile islands.
I like the idea. +1 to the Ventura. We need more Pac War types, generally. When do I get my Ki-44 Shoki, btw. It's mid-war so-so bird but it sure would be a fun add.
Boomerang and Wirraway would be nice as well. Don't forgets my TBD Devastated either. Then we could do the whole Midway thing.
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From some digging around.
The only two carriers with the "Tiny Tim" aboard were the USS Intrepid and the USS Franklin. The USS Franklin was put out of action on March 19, 1945, when she was some 50 miles off the coast of Japan, and before she had a chance to use her "Tiny Tim" rockets in combat. Thus, it fell to the USS Intrepid to make the first combat use of these rocket on March 24, 1945, against caves on Okinawa.
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11.75" Rocket, Tiny Tim
Length: 123 inches
Diameter: 11.75 inches
Weight: 1,284 lbs
Warhead Mass: 590 lb SAP, of which 150 lbs is HE
Motor Mass: 146~ lbs of propellant
Velocity: 810 ft/sec above that of launching aircraft
Range: Accurate out to 4,000 yards
Penetration: 3 to 4 feet of reinforced concrete
Notes: At a meeting on 2 February 1944, the preliminary specifications were agreed upon for "a really big rocket" -- motor tube approx 12" in diameter, a propellant charge of four 40 pound motors, and a total weight of approximately 1,200 lbs. By late April 1944, a complete rocket had been fired.
In August 1944, a test drop of a Tiny Tim killed a test pilot, causing a slight delay in development of the missile. The solution to the test drop problem was to have the rocket be released from a rocket rack and ignited by means of a 8-foot lanyard. This meant that accuracy was of course, quite poor.
The F4U, F6F and PBJ were qualified to operate the Tiny Tim – VMB-612 on Okinawa had modified PBJ-1Js capable of carrying two Tiny Tims, one on each side on the fuselage above the bomb bay doors, and flew 10 missions with them between 21 July 1945 and 14 August 1945.
(http://www.alternatewars.com/BBOW/Weapons/VMB-612_PBJ-1J_Tiny_Tim.jpg)
(http://www.alternatewars.com/BBOW/Weapons/PBJ-1_Tiny_Tim_IwoJima.jpg)
(http://www.alternatewars.com/BBOW/Weapons/PBJ-1J_Tiny_Tim_Launch.jpg)
(http://www.alternatewars.com/BBOW/Weapons/F6F_Tiny_Tim.jpg)