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Title: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Slash27 on June 28, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_WmjWAGkLI

Glad no one was injured. Had to be a bit surreal to say the least.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: NatCigg on June 28, 2014, 10:19:28 AM
 :O I guess planes really are meant to fly.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: DaveBB on June 28, 2014, 11:15:14 AM
Those guys did some real quick thinking on their feet and saved their planes and maybe some lives.  On thing the Army Air Corp learned in the Pacific is that when a typhoon was about to hit, everyone would man their planes and keep them pointed into the wind with their engines on.  One B-29 crew spent either 12 or 15 hours in their plane just keeping it headed into the wind while on the ground.  Surprised the engines didn't overheat or run out of fuel.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: GScholz on June 28, 2014, 06:00:25 PM
Running out of fuel would surprise me. The B-29 regularly flew 12+ hour missions bombing Japan.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: zack1234 on June 29, 2014, 04:13:26 AM
The wind made the planes move?
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: colmbo on June 29, 2014, 10:15:43 AM
The wind made the planes move?

Yes.  The ones pointed into the gust lifted off, #3 was blown sideways.  Good job on the part of the pilots to do "pilot stuff" and keep/get the a/c under control.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 29, 2014, 10:56:12 AM
Yes.  The ones pointed into the gust lifted off, #3 was blown sideways.  Good job on the part of the pilots to do "pilot stuff" and keep/get the a/c under control.

Did they get called for cheating after they boasted a short takeoff, using the AH wind cheat?
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Rich46yo on June 29, 2014, 03:12:01 PM
Im very surprised those little planes are even out there and not chained down like they are supposed to be.

We took no chances with far larger and heavier aircraft in USAF when T-storms were around. Someone is going to answer for this I would bet.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Golfer on June 29, 2014, 03:30:03 PM
Im very surprised those little planes are even out there and not chained down like they are supposed to be.

We took no chances with far larger and heavier aircraft in USAF when T-storms were around. Someone is going to answer for this I would bet.

I don't believe they were sitting idle but rather were in the middle of their day flying.  What with the pilots sitting in them with the engines running and all the people around and all...
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Bodhi on June 29, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
Im very surprised those little planes are even out there and not chained down like they are supposed to be.

We took no chances with far larger and heavier aircraft in USAF when T-storms were around. Someone is going to answer for this I would bet.

It's just another spring day in Colorado Springs.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: FLOOB on June 29, 2014, 09:18:50 PM
.wind 0 99 99 99
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: FTJR on June 30, 2014, 02:34:57 AM
It also shows how concentrated a microburst is. The 2 on the edges barely moved (realtively).
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Ratsy on June 30, 2014, 10:55:20 AM
One B-29 crew spent either 12 or 15 hours in their plane just keeping it headed into the wind while on the ground.  Surprised the engines didn't overheat or run out of fuel.

I remember a photograph in the 475th ABW headquarters building at Yokota AB, Japan.  It depicted a line of B-29's on the ramp during the Typhoon of 1952.  The nose wheels were cabled to the ground - flight decks were manned - engines were running.

I went through a Typhoon in 1977(?) at Yokota.  The eye came right over the base.  Surreal.

 :salute

Ratsy
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: rpm on June 30, 2014, 01:51:35 PM
Did they get called for cheating after they boasted a short takeoff, using the AH wind cheat?
Turns out it was your sound card/connection.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Brooke on June 30, 2014, 04:43:35 PM
Jeez.  I can't imagine pilots taking off into that.  Is this for sure real footage?  It certainly looks real.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: craz07 on June 30, 2014, 04:51:04 PM
Haha if we only really knew tho..  :noid
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 30, 2014, 06:41:24 PM
Aliens.


I am still not fully understanding how a aircraft can be "lifted" into the air, while yards away a crew of people can hold onto a glider and not be pushed or swept away. none of those humans showed much signs of being hit by major wins that could send a human tumbling or being "blown away" yet those other planes took off. Anyone have any video of the other aircraft crashing? Did they fly away? did they "land"?

I must know. :)


Either way i don't think it a hoax because no engine spat out exhaust. But the humans never reacted or moved as if they were in hurricane type winds. Maybe just perfect conditions for such a thing.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Zoney on June 30, 2014, 06:52:29 PM
Aliens.


I am still not fully understanding how a aircraft can be "lifted" into the air, while yards away a crew of people can hold onto a glider and not be pushed or swept away. none of those humans showed much signs of being hit by major wins that could send a human tumbling or being "blown away" yet those other planes took off. Anyone have any video of the other aircraft crashing? Did they fly away? did they "land"?

I must know. :)


Either way i don't think it a hoax because no engine spat out exhaust. But the humans never reacted or moved as if they were in hurricane type winds. Maybe just perfect conditions for such a thing.

The "Laws of Physics" are a wonderful thing and within them lies the answers to your questions.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 30, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
If it involves more then cracking a beer, count me out.
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: cpxxx on July 03, 2014, 09:36:48 AM
Aliens. I am still not fully understanding how a aircraft can be "lifted" into the air, while yards away a crew of people can hold onto a glider and not be pushed or swept away. none of those humans showed much signs of being hit by major wins that could send a human tumbling or being "blown away" yet those other planes took off. Anyone have any video of the other aircraft crashing? Did they fly away? did they "land"?
Airplanes are designed to fly, humans are not. Those aircraft are Piper Super Cubs. I'm not sure what engines the USAF academy use in theirs but they are well overpowered so they can tow gliders, probably 180hp. They can take off at very low airspeeds and with the windspeed they were experiencing they would virtually lift off vertically. Except for the unlucky guy who got to take off downwind!



Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: Ratsy on July 03, 2014, 03:20:48 PM
Angle of incidence!

J3 is on a tail wheel = positive angle of incidence of the wing to the relative wind.  Vertical stab is a weather vane.

Sailplane is wing down to the relative wind with a bunch of baggy green things laying on it =  reinforced negative angle of incidence.

This is scientifically demonstrated any time after 10AM at every R/C flying field in Texas.   :eek:

Dude - where's my plane?

 :salute
Title: Re: Microburst incident at USAF Academy airfield
Post by: pipz on July 04, 2014, 06:24:40 AM
If it involves more then cracking a beer, count me out.

 :rofl  :aok  :old: