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Title: P -51 goes down
Post by: TwinBoom on July 06, 2014, 03:37:48 AM: http://www.durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140704/NEWS01/140709810&template=mobileart (http://www.durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140704/NEWS01/140709810&template=mobileart)
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: MrKrabs on July 06, 2014, 03:41:46 AM: Quote from: TwinBoom on July 06, 2014, 03:37:48 AM
http://www.durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140704/NEWS01/140709810&template=mobileart (http://www.durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140704/NEWS01/140709810&template=mobileart)

Must have been bish...

On a serious note, sad :uhoh
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: JOACH1M on July 06, 2014, 06:07:46 AM: Rip :pray
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Karnak on July 06, 2014, 06:26:13 AM: I am sorry to hear that the two gentlemen did not survive.

<S>
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: ebfd11 on July 06, 2014, 07:29:00 AM: Fair Winds and clear skies.. :pray
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Masherbrum on July 06, 2014, 11:48:55 AM: Quote from: MrKrabs on July 06, 2014, 03:41:46 AM
Must have been bish...

On a serious note, sad :uhoh

Classy.

Fair skies and tailwinds forever. :salute
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: CASHEW on July 06, 2014, 01:10:52 PM: Quote from: MrKrabs on July 06, 2014, 03:41:46 AM
Must have been bish...

On a serious note, sad :uhoh
Man thats classy of you. :huh Loser. RIP sad story
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Rogue9Volt on July 06, 2014, 01:14:10 PM: Clear skies, <S>
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Someguy63 on July 06, 2014, 01:20:41 PM: :salute
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Yeager on July 06, 2014, 01:50:41 PM: “There are a lot of privately owned aircrafts flying in and out of this airport daily. It’s not unusual to see a crash,” he said.

wow.........I consider aircrafts crashing to be completely unusual.

RIP
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Dichotomy on July 06, 2014, 04:55:47 PM: :pray thoughts and prayers to the two gentlemens families and loved ones
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 06, 2014, 11:32:56 PM: 'only 123 left' ... Pretty good number left I think.

:salute to the owner & instructor.
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Widewing on July 07, 2014, 07:24:12 PM: Quote from: SFRT - Frenchy on July 06, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
'only 123 left' ... Pretty good number left I think.

:salute to the owner & instructor.

Wealthy guy just learned to fly... Buys a P-51D. Has just a handful of time in Mustang, no solo time. Not sure if instructor has any warbird time. Took off from Durango runway 5. Whatever happened, the Mustang crashed on rt 309, about 300 yards from runway end.

Common problem in warbird community... Heaps of cash can buy a warbird. It doesn't buy the time and experience needed to fly it safely. Too many "well to do" guys have bought aircraft well beyond their level, and some also paid for it with their lives. Tragic and unnecessary. Two families are grieving.

P-51s can be rebuilt, literally from the data plate... Can't rebuild people.
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Babalonian on July 08, 2014, 09:56:06 AM: I'm remembering King Lou IV a few years ago.
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on July 08, 2014, 10:33:06 AM: He was probably trying to run...

Condolences. The eralier assessment is probably correct, unfortunately. He probably bought himself a bit too much stick.
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Widewing on July 08, 2014, 10:48:05 AM: Quote from: Babalonian on July 08, 2014, 09:56:06 AM
I'm remembering King Lou IV a few years ago.

Another case where experience was insufficient. Too much power applied on a touch and go, IIRC.

http://www.vcstar.com/news/man-killed-in-camarillo-plane-crash (http://www.vcstar.com/news/man-killed-in-camarillo-plane-crash)
Title: Re: P -51 goes down
Post by: Puma44 on July 08, 2014, 04:03:17 PM: Quote from: Widewing on July 08, 2014, 10:48:05 AM
Another case where experience was insufficient. Too much power applied on a touch and go, IIRC.

http://www.vcstar.com/news/man-killed-in-camarillo-plane-crash (http://www.vcstar.com/news/man-killed-in-camarillo-plane-crash)
What you describe sounds like a typical Mustang landing occurrence. A balked or bounced landing attempt followed by a pull on the stick to arrest the descent rate as airspeed is bleeding off toward not much margin above stall speed, accompanied by a quick application of power. All of this occurring at the same time results in a stall with torque and the resulting roll to inverted with no altitude to recover.