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Title: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 06, 2014, 01:26:50 PM
Was thinking the other day, not sure how easy it would even be to achieve or do but thought it might be kind of fun to play around with a group doing some aerobatics and such like the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels, nothing to time consuming but just playing around with it in the TA and see what we could achieve for fun. If any of the skinners and if HTC would allow maybe throw some mock ups of the angels (F6F) or birds (P51D) skins together too for use.

flame on

or support it... either way just throwing it out there.

8thBuff
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: scott66 on July 06, 2014, 06:01:21 PM
+1 we have air races why not this
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 07, 2014, 01:27:16 AM
only need about 5 guys to really make this happen I don't see why it would be to hard to get a few guys together once a week maybe or maybe not even that often just to play around and have fun doing something a little different.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: MrKrabs on July 07, 2014, 02:26:32 AM
I cheat by using staged missions! :old:
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: Slate on July 07, 2014, 07:17:26 AM
I cheat by using staged missions! :old:

   Looking for your mission now!

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Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 07, 2014, 09:20:51 AM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl

MMMMmmmmm Crab for Dinn Dinn  :bolt:
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: Dragon on July 07, 2014, 09:34:19 AM
You can dine between her thighs, I'm hoping they get something good in the net.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 07, 2014, 04:08:49 PM
If anyone is interested in maybe talking about it or flyin a little ill be in the Training Arena tonight for awhile, I experimented with a 262 earlier today worked pretty well, so i figure try it with a p51D, F6F-5, and a 262, see what works best and go from there, i am waiting to hear back about the possibility of doing a skin replica of Bird's and/or Angel's.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: Babalonian on July 07, 2014, 04:31:49 PM
Was thinking the other day, not sure how easy it would even be to achieve or do but thought it might be kind of fun to play around with a group doing some aerobatics and such like the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels, nothing to time consuming but just playing around with it in the TA and see what we could achieve for fun. If any of the skinners and if HTC would allow maybe throw some mock ups of the angels (F6F) or birds (P51D) skins together too for use.

flame on

or support it... either way just throwing it out there.

8thBuff

Good idea.  If HTC would add the F8F (and F7F to the lwma, both with perk costs) you could use for your mockup an accurate skin to compliment the accurate aircraft.

/shameless wish-plug
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: FLS on July 07, 2014, 05:32:13 PM
If anyone is interested in maybe talking about it or flyin a little ill be in the Training Arena tonight for awhile, I experimented with a 262 earlier today worked pretty well, so i figure try it with a p51D, F6F-5, and a 262, see what works best and go from there, i am waiting to hear back about the possibility of doing a skin replica of Bird's and/or Angel's.

You may want to start with something that flys slowly. Fly in pairs to start and switch lead and wing to gain experience in both. Build some skills practicing in pairs before you add more pilots to the formation. Try flat turns, wingovers, loops, and barrel rolls. That will give you skills to do a show.

Speed control is essential to maintaining position. The throttle makes speed changes slowly. Pitching up and down makes speed changes quickly so any pitch up or down by lead has to be communicated so that everyone changes speed at the same time.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 08, 2014, 05:09:28 PM
Well the possibility of having a skin made for the demo team has been shot down, if it wasn't in the war..... blah blah so I guess we cant have the added element of immersion in putting this team together, but its not going to stop me from trying to do it, we can have airshow smoke but not airshow paint I guess  :bolt:. So far only have one person that has expressed that he will attempt to get together with me and one other that is going to try and pull from his squad. I will be around tomm during the day and evening (Eastern Time) if anyone would like to start experimenting and flying together.

Thanks for the tips and ideas FLS that is exactly where I was kind of thinking start simple and work up from there, and really working out the throttle management and communication is going to be a huge part and understanding the delay in transmission and reception as that slight delay will effect things as well, and working out a dialogue that everyone can understand easily.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: FLS on July 08, 2014, 08:03:23 PM
You only need one wingman to begin practice. Try for 50 yards separation to start and work towards 25.

When you fly lead stay at reduced power.  The wingman will use whatever throttle they need. The wingman has 3 things to control. In order of precedence.

1. Angle offset from lead, 30 - 45 degrees from the wing line or 3/9 line.

2. Distance from lead.

3. Altitude slightly below lead.

Take care of angle first, then distance, then altitude.

Lead should turn towards the wingman to correct position errors and in general to make it easier to hold position.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 11, 2014, 07:37:42 PM
Ill be in the TA, the LWA doesnt look to inviting right now, so if anyone would like to do some formation flying come on down....
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: FLS on July 11, 2014, 07:56:28 PM
If you end up practicing solo you can work on a basic pattern. I usually assume the audience is S of the field. Real flying doesn't allow flying towards the crowd but we can do it without risk. Your flight path will set the view angles. Remember to fly at reduced power and be smooth and steady. The lead has to fly the same way each time so the wingmen can make predictable corrections and stay in position.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: LLv34_Dictonius on July 12, 2014, 02:45:05 AM
The virtual aerobatics is pretty popular in the world of IL-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlABZqphjw

Why not in Aces High too!!! :salute
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 12, 2014, 10:16:05 AM
That's kind of what I was thinking is why not have some fun with it and do something different just to have a change of pace once in awhile from the regular game play. However, the response doesn't seem to be to great, haven't had anyone show up as of yet to do anything, I have had a couple people show interest but we haven't done anything yet. Thank you FLS for all the advice though I do appreciate it and have been doing some of that stuff solo, trying to figure out maneuvers, timing speed, power what the comms would be, different visual markers for timing, benchmarks/reference points while turning or climbing things like that, but so far its been all for not without anyone to fly with lol. Just goes with the disappointment of not even being allowed to have a simple Blue Angels skin for the f6f so I guess I shouldn't be hugely surprised, if anyone wants to do this just send me a message ill be around and in the TA im sure.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: fbEagle on July 12, 2014, 11:40:49 AM
Count me in, I love precision flying. If it takes off it could be a promo for the game? Just thinking out loud here   :headscratch: Anyway I think it's a great idea to get something like this going. AcesHigh Flight Demonstration Team? It would definitely make a cool YouTube   :airplane: :banana:
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 12, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Awesome.... Eagle well if I can get everyone together we would have 5 but... getting everyone together is the hard part lol. Maybe today we can all get together those that have sent me messages and those that have replied on here? you guys tell me.
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: fbEagle on July 12, 2014, 12:03:36 PM
I should be on tonight around 2200 est. Just shoot me a pm or something in LW. Might be able to pull a couple of other guys with me  :D
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: 9thAFE on July 12, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
For those that are interested....   6pm (1800) Eastern Time in the Training Arena.... we will be meeting around then to attempt, discuss, play with, try, amuse, perform, succeed, fail, crash, or whatever  :rofl some formation flying...
Title: Re: Flight Demonstration Group....
Post by: Cremator on July 13, 2014, 08:10:18 PM
You should get with Puma Buff.  Ive winged with him some and though hes never come out and said it I can tell he would be big into that sort of thing.