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Title: TBM and B5N formations.
Post by: glzsqd on July 08, 2014, 11:46:45 PM
The TBM
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r561/folanjohnp1/vt15_zps12c2622c.jpg)
The B5N
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r561/folanjohnp1/B5N_Type_97_Carrier_Attack_Bomber_Kate_B5N-31_zps315df058.jpg)

I think a brilliant way to turn these two planes from Hangar Queens into a useful addition to the game is to allow the ability to bring a 3 plane formation. This will allow them to bring more ordnance than their Jabo counter parts the F6F and F4U. Since they are both fitted with a Bombsite, I predict that this will increase the usage of both airplanes in large scale raids.
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Post by: SmokinLoon on July 08, 2014, 11:48:49 PM
Agreed!
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Post by: Someguy63 on July 09, 2014, 12:00:45 AM
+1 :aok
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Post by: xPoisonx on July 09, 2014, 12:22:58 AM
Only problem and possibly the reason why they don't have em already is because drones are stuupid when it comes to cvs. It would be interesting to watch them try and land on one.
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Post by: Puma44 on July 09, 2014, 12:27:59 AM
Good idea  :aok
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Post by: glzsqd on July 09, 2014, 12:36:11 AM
Only problem and possibly the reason why they don't have em already is because drones are stuupid when it comes to cvs. It would be interesting to watch them try and land on one.

I always thought it didn't matter if the Drones landed, as long as they didn't explode before you tower out.
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Post by: xPoisonx on July 09, 2014, 01:55:16 AM
I always thought it didn't matter if the Drones landed, as long as they didn't explode before you tower out.

I'm all for it +1
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Post by: Xavier on July 09, 2014, 07:15:28 AM
+1, maybe the new TBM already has drones  :aok
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Post by: HighTone on July 09, 2014, 07:18:34 AM
+1
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Post by: Coalcat1 on July 09, 2014, 07:23:42 AM
+1, the B5N has the same bomb load as a KI67  :)
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Post by: hotcoffe on July 09, 2014, 07:53:54 AM
+1
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Post by: PJ_Godzilla on July 09, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
Those are good snacks. The TBM is a little crunchy, even. +1
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Post by: Drane on July 09, 2014, 11:18:26 AM
+1  :aok

need more snacks!
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Post by: kano on July 09, 2014, 12:51:14 PM
+1

EatG
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Post by: Rich46yo on July 09, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
Well I'd like to see these planes used more, some how some way. I'll go that far.
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Post by: Slade on July 09, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
+1
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Post by: tuba515 on July 09, 2014, 06:06:49 PM
 :aok +1
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Post by: tmetal on July 09, 2014, 06:57:06 PM
+1. I think the main reason the tbm and b5n don't have formations is that they didn't drop their bombs as a formation, each plane was individually responsible for sighting on then dropping on the target; instead of dropping their bombs at the signal of the formation's leading plane. At least, that is the logic that makes sense to me. Maybe it is as simple as they don't have multipul engines?
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 09, 2014, 07:12:50 PM
+1. I think the main reason the tbm and b5n don't have formations is that they didn't drop their bombs as a formation, each plane was individually responsible for sighting on then dropping on the target; instead of dropping their bombs at the signal of the formation's leading plane. At least, that is the logic that makes sense to me. Maybe it is as simple as they don't have multipul engines?

Formation attack runs were used by both sides for their naval bombers and torpedo planes.

Here are some TBMs and Helldivers doing a level bombing run in formation.
(https://my.vanderbilt.edu/michaelbess/files/2014/02/bess-5-5.jpg)
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Post by: Gray on July 09, 2014, 08:40:16 PM
+1
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Post by: Muzzy on July 09, 2014, 09:12:05 PM
+1
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Post by: Saxman on July 09, 2014, 09:14:48 PM
+1, it'd be a great alternative to rolling jabbos off the boat if you can run formations instead.
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Post by: tmetal on July 09, 2014, 09:56:53 PM
That's a interesting picture ack-ack. Do you know how common a practice that was?
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Post by: glzsqd on July 09, 2014, 10:19:54 PM
so how man +1s does a wish need to be realized?
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Post by: PJ_Godzilla on July 09, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
More than we can give.
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Post by: Puma44 on July 10, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
Formation attack runs were used by both sides for their naval bombers and torpedo planes.

Here are some TBMs and Helldivers doing a level bombing run in formation.
(https://my.vanderbilt.edu/michaelbess/files/2014/02/bess-5-5.jpg)
What are the white objects mounted under each wing?  They don't appear to be bombs.
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Post by: Volron on July 10, 2014, 09:20:22 AM
What are the white objects mounted under each wing?  They don't appear to be bombs.

The droptanks? :headscratch:
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Post by: Wmaker on July 10, 2014, 09:41:51 AM
What are the white objects mounted under each wing?  They don't appear to be bombs.

Radar pod (right wing from pilot's pov) and a drop tank (left wing from pilot's pov).
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Post by: Puma44 on July 10, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
Thanks!
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Post by: vHACKv on July 14, 2014, 03:50:26 PM
+1

I think the drones are smart enough, just need to be more precise. Just like landing on a real CV, but what are the chances of  making it back to the CV in the first place? We are talking about some of the slowest planes in the MA... Can't wait to find trips of these in my 9t
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Post by: Blinder on July 14, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
All the single engine bombers should have drones. Not just for more ordnance on target but also for more collective tail end return fire as well.

+1 (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs007.gif)
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Post by: kvuo75 on July 15, 2014, 08:38:27 AM
so how man +1s does a wish need to be realized?

just one, from the correct guy.. who happens to work at htc.. and is named hitech.
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Post by: Volron on July 15, 2014, 10:51:13 AM
just one, from the correct guy.. who happens to work at htc.. and is named hitech.


 :lol
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Post by: USCH on July 15, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
+1
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Post by: turt21 on July 15, 2014, 05:09:12 PM
+1 Great Idea
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Post by: Volron on July 15, 2014, 05:58:23 PM
just one, from the correct guy.. who happens to work at htc.. and is named hitech.


Actually, don't even need one +1.  Just the OP is needed. :)
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Post by: Rob52240 on September 18, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
+1
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Post by: Nefarious on September 18, 2014, 04:18:36 PM
+1
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Post by: ONTOS on September 18, 2014, 05:49:17 PM
It is good that we should have this. :aok
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Post by: MK-84 on September 18, 2014, 08:54:02 PM
I am guessing that the reason that the TBM and B5N do not have formations is because that either their usage was not as a formation bomber (more for the B5N I imagine,) or because gameplay wise carrier launches to not really work for formations, whether mechanically or visually.
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Post by: Chilli on September 19, 2014, 05:07:36 AM
I am guessing that the reason that the TBM and B5N do not have formations is because that either their usage was not as a formation bomber (more for the B5N I imagine,) or because gameplay wise carrier launches to not really work for formations, whether mechanically or visually.

I was thinking that it could be a gameplay issue (non issue, if the total amount of ordinance allowed from a CV launch would be less).  :aok However, I am in favor of seeing this for the sake of increasing the fleet impact on attacks.

I could be wrong, but it seems that LVTs spawn further from shore, and faster and better capable bombers have been added that sink CVs in one pass.  There is something to be said for adding some offense to the fleet (there again this could be balanced by limiting ordinance).
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Post by: macdp51 on September 19, 2014, 07:21:33 AM
+1  :salute

HP
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Post by: thndregg on September 19, 2014, 11:06:13 AM
I would love to throw together a B5N or TBM w/formation bomb run...

Agreed on formations.
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Post by: DubiousKB on September 19, 2014, 03:46:04 PM
+1 (nice simple addition to bring life to the CV offensive)

I'm tired of landing B-25's on the CV's, it's a long flight usually!   :salute
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Post by: matt on September 20, 2014, 10:21:25 AM
+1
  join for a tour  :airplane:
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Post by: SWkiljoy on September 20, 2014, 10:28:39 AM
+!
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Post by: Slade on September 20, 2014, 01:51:41 PM
+1
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Post by: aztec on September 25, 2014, 09:12:34 AM
+1
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Post by: EagleDNY on September 25, 2014, 08:58:48 PM
YES +1