Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: -ammo- on July 12, 2014, 01:58:19 AM
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While I completely understand why the policy exists, it has a negative impact on those players that disco due to the recent network issues. I really like the feature where you are put back in flight but it is a real disadvantage to come back at 150 IAS with no WEP in a sea of enemy AC. Especially if you are in a plane that accelerates like a snail.
This morning I flew FSO and then went to the main arena. I discoed 5 times in less than 4 hours. Please do away with the no WEP rule.
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I would appreciate it if the P40C didn't lose all its fuel after a Disco.
All the fuel in the planes Fuel tanks, not externals... the plane is dead stick when I'm put back in the cockpit ;(
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Let's throw in serious overheating while we're at it. I've come back from several disco's to find my engine white hot. Which means no WEP, which means I can count on 2 dozen guys at my 6 (instead of the usual dozen), and NO power. Bad.
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Let's throw in serious overheating while we're at it.
throw in? this is exactly what the OP is talking about... :headscratch:
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I would appreciate it if the P40C didn't lose all its fuel after a Disco.
All the fuel in the planes Fuel tanks, not externals... the plane is dead stick when I'm put back in the cockpit ;(
That sounds more like a bug than a wish.
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One of the problems with this rule is that it affects some planes more than others or not at all. Spit 14 mossie and p47N/M rely heavily on slow recharging WEP. TA152 WEP charges very fast. The yaks do not use WEP at all.
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The FW190A5/A8/F8 has the slowest cooling times of them all.
It's just about time to land when WEP is restored.
When I faced frequent disconnects last month, I had to fly the liquid cooled planes to have any chance of survival (I'm try to fly mostly ENY20+ planes).
+100
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There is no "RULE" about no wep, the host simply has no idea how much wep you have used. Hence to fix the issue of discoing to get wep back, we chose to have no wep after disco.
HiTech
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There is no "RULE" about no wep, the host simply has no idea how much wep you have used. Hence to fix the issue of discoing to get wep back, we chose to have no wep after disco.
HiTech
Do you mean to say that you think people might disco on purpose to resupply their wep if it was the other way?
Say it isn't so! :noid
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Do you mean to say that you think people might disco on purpose to resupply their wep if it was the other way?
Say it isn't so! :noid
Of course. However that doesn't help the majority that disco due to network problems. The fix punishes the innocent.
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If the choice to show WEP not available on returning from a disco, or not returning from a disco except to the tower, well I think we all will agree that we would like to be put back in flight even if it at the expense of wep. We know why HTC chose to put you back in the plane with wep used up, small price to pay.
I think being returned to flight after a disco is one of the best things that has happened to the game, I'm ok with the wep penalty because of that. Leave it just like it is, it works perfect.
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What button is it for WEP again? :bhead
I have been flying the 9t too much :banana:
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I can't say I knew there was no wep after a disconnect. Ammo it might not be noticeable by most disco'es. The immediate need for wep would seem to be rare occasion.
I do see your point and HTC's counter point. HTC's.
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In many higher ENY planes Wep is the difference between able running away from a hoard of yak3 and spit16, or get caught.
A question for HTC ,you already keep track of ammunition, is it hard to code to "remember" temperature ?
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is it hard to code to "remember" temperature ?
Just a side note, WEP is based on a simple timer only.
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Just a side note, WEP is based on a simple timer only.
I have seen you post this before. No doubt it is true to a point but the timer simulates the time it takes to heat the heads and the time is cumulative up and down with on and off so it is more than just a simple code timer. It is a simulation of head temperatures.
If it added outside temperature to the cooling calculation that would be neat. Much less neat would be to add water injection tank size into the simulation. Ouch on that.
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There is no "RULE" about no wep, the host simply has no idea how much wep you have used. Hence to fix the issue of discoing to get wep back, we chose to have no wep after disco.
HiTech
OK, I'll not call it a rule. It would be nice if AH accurately measures a player's AC WEP status at the time of a disco and then have that data implemented upon the players return to the arena. AFAIK, fuel and ammo levels are taken into consideration - at least for the P-47 models. Question and answer time if you will oblige me.
Was there a time when players that discoed and returned to flight had full WEP? You guys added the ability to return to flight from a disco during my hiatus so I don't know.
Am I correct in assuming the reason you chose for players returning from a disco to have no WEP was due to your thought that the probability for abuse was there? Ie, a player could purposely disconnect for the sole purpose of recharging his WEP to 100% when they returned to the arena.
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Am I correct in assuming the reason you chose for players returning from a disco to have no WEP was due to your thought that the probability for abuse was there? Ie, a player could purposely disconnect for the sole purpose of recharging his WEP to 100% when they returned to the arena.
Maybe it's not even the player purposefully disconnecting. It you keep getting disconnected, even if you aren't "doing it" the advantage would be to the frequent disconnector who would have fresh wep each time. The reconnect feature is awesome and a temp too high to use wep on the return is a very very small price to pay.
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Maybe it's not even the player purposefully disconnecting. It you keep getting disconnected, even if you aren't "doing it" the advantage would be to the frequent disconnector who would have fresh wep each time. The reconnect feature is awesome and a temp too high to use wep on the return is a very very small price to pay.
I see your point but I argue the price is a bit steep in a bird that has a slow recharge time. It happens to me all the time in a D11/D25. WEP is a huge factor in these AC. I am simply asking if it is possible for HTC to code where the host tracks a player's WEP level at disco.
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Even if you had wep when you are put back in flight, the engine starts then goes to selected throttle. If you spawn back in a tight spot you are floating anyway albeit I have never seen someone spawn in from a disco. I am guessing on my lost connection episodes, it is 2-3 minutes before I spawn back in.
I am not arguing against your wish Ammo. Just trying to see the whole picture.
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I have seen you post this before. No doubt it is true to a point but the timer simulates the time it takes to heat the heads and the time is cumulative up and down with on and off so it is more than just a simple code timer. It is a simulation of head temperatures.
It IS a simple timer. WEP ON = deducting time, WEP OFF = adding time (according to the planes 'recharge' rate)
The problem with descriptions like the one above is that people easily start to believe it's really about temperature, and myths like "shutting off the engine (or reducing RPM) speeds up WEP recharge" result from that.
And that's why I always try to make it very clear how it really works :old:
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HTC, please consider this request. Numerous discoes at my end.