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Title: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Muzzy on July 31, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
Two years ago I said this film would either bomb completely, or everyone would be talking about the Raccoon. Also the Tree. I guess we're going to find out for sure in a few days.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Nathan60 on July 31, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
Still waiting on a Deadpool movie..
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Wiley on July 31, 2014, 05:12:06 PM
Still waiting on a Deadpool movie..

"Leaked" Deadpool Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHekHF429_M)  Kind of made me chuckle, not entirely sure an hour and a half or 2 hours of that would be a good thing.

Guardians looks fun.  I'll be seeing it for sure.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: MiloMorai on July 31, 2014, 05:42:07 PM
Deadpool

How does the window go down when there is no battery - front end, where the battery is suppose to be, is missing.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Volron on July 31, 2014, 05:43:11 PM
Deadpool

How does the window go down when there is no battery - front end, where the battery is suppose to be, is missing.

Magic. :)
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Devil 505 on July 31, 2014, 05:53:02 PM
Psyched for Guardians. Might see it this weekend, or at the very least during the week. Lookes great.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Lusche on July 31, 2014, 05:54:21 PM
Deadpool

How does the window go down when there is no battery - front end, where the battery is suppose to be, is missing.

hand crank  :old:
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Saxman on July 31, 2014, 06:03:04 PM
"Leaked" Deadpool Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHekHF429_M)  Kind of made me chuckle, not entirely sure an hour and a half or 2 hours of that would be a good thing.

Guardians looks fun.  I'll be seeing it for sure.

Wiley.

Deadpool would be awesome if done right. It would require a Brooksian level of self-awareness. And I mean to the extent of "Kill a crew member during the fight scene" gag a'la Spaceballs (with Deadpool commenting on how they totally ripped it off). Run with it even further by having him kill the director and taking over, sending the whole film off the rails until a replacement is brought in! The Verge even posted an article on how it could be made to work as PG-13, and reading it I agreed with EVERY WORD. There's SO MUCH more fun they could have with a PG-13 rating just because of the limitations that imposes and the fuel for meta humor it would provide (imagine Deadpool killing a mook for the first time. He turns to the camera and quips, "We'd have loved to have shown more blood and guts, but we had to make concessions to keep the PG-13 rating." Or, Deadpool drops an F-Bomb and remarks on how they're only allowed the one by the MPAA, so he chose the most appropriate moment).

Although the character I'd REALLY love to see done is X-23 (think about it: Jackman is eventually going to hang up Wolverine's claws. Rather than deal with the risk of recasting, or rebooting the franchise altogether, just use his daughter/clone!) Though if they were to adapt Innocence Lost with ANY degree of faithfulness it would basically amount to 2+ hours of watching a child being horribly abused.... That said, it would be a pretty unique spin on the genre considering the main character isn't X herself, but her creator/mother.

Looking forward to Guardians, too. Don't know if I'll be able to see it this weekend, tho.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Gman on August 01, 2014, 12:18:56 PM
Saw it last night - best one of the year so far, surprisingly good.  Also, at 11.2 million in ticket sales, it's the best Thursday opening this year, beating Spider man and Winter Soldier as well, a film that did extremely well worldwide.  I hope Guardians does at least that well, I have a feeling it could get a ton of word of mouth momentum - not like Avatar or something that huge, but I could see it being the biggest this year.  We'll see I suppose, the film sure deserves the reviews it's been getting.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on August 01, 2014, 10:15:09 PM
Still waiting on a Deadpool movie..
+1  :)
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Dragon Tamer on August 01, 2014, 10:31:01 PM
Deadpool

How does the window go down when there is no battery - front end, where the battery is suppose to be, is missing.

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7a/e4/b6/7ae4b6d55891845379019a61d0c7dbf9.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Saxman on August 02, 2014, 07:56:28 PM
Just saw Guardians this evening. Pretty typical MCU film: Entertainingly silly and quippy, but not particularly deep. And the post-credits scene may be one of THE most random references I've ever seen. Vin Diesel gives a surprisingly deep voice performance considering 1) it's Vin Diesel and 2) he only ever says one phrase, while Rocket is probably the highlight of the film. Zoe Saldana looks good (although there's one Nova Corps aide/secretary/etc. who is SMOKING and blows her away even though she's only in like, two scenes), but both she and John C. Reilly probably had the weakest performances. Bautista is spared from that mainly because he spends most of the time looking angry and beating the crap out of people, though when he does have to actually act he does a pretty good job.

I'd probably give it a B+

To me, Days of Future Past is still the best entry in the summer movie season. I enjoy the Marvel flicks, but I'm glad Fox holds the rights to the X-Men because I just don't think the atmosphere of the MCU would be appropriate for them. Fox is on the right track with their more serious and introspective approach.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Muzzy on August 03, 2014, 02:00:51 AM
[Small spoilers]

See, my problem is that so many films are trying to either shove weighty gravitas down our throats to reflect how sucky our society is or whatever, or they're trying to blind us with flashy CGI. Guardians does deliver on the effects, but I thought the characters were more interesting on some levels than their Avengers counterparts. When the film takes a turn towards the tragic, it has a much stronger impact than the "scheduled downbeats" that you see in other superhero films. The characters in Avengers, the Dark Knight trilogy and X-Men have epic-level problems; they live in a grandiose world where everything is either political or greek tragedy, but the Guardians have more relatable issues and I found them to be more sympathetic and perhaps more touching than anything else I've seen in superhero movies. When Rocket goes into his sad drunk speech, you get where he's coming from and you genuinely feel that he's in pain, and Quill's obsession with 70's music becomes more understandable when you know his backstory. I think the fact that the actors took their work very seriously made their characters more human, and maybe they needed to be given the alien nature of the cast.

That said, Guardians still delivers on the fun, without societal or political commentary but with a very human set of characters that you want to root for, and maybe that's its greatest strength. It may not be on the complex level of its competitors, but it has more heart.

[Edit]

I want Rocket as my wingman!
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Saxman on August 03, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
[Small spoilers]

See, my problem is that so many films are trying to either shove weighty gravitas down our throats to reflect how sucky our society is or whatever, or they're trying to blind us with flashy CGI. Guardians does deliver on the effects, but I thought the characters were more interesting on some levels than their Avengers counterparts. When the film takes a turn towards the tragic, it has a much stronger impact than the "scheduled downbeats" that you see in other superhero films. The characters in Avengers, the Dark Knight trilogy and X-Men have epic-level problems; they live in a grandiose world where everything is either political or greek tragedy, but the Guardians have more relatable issues and I found them to be more sympathetic and perhaps more touching than anything else I've seen in superhero movies. When Rocket goes into his sad drunk speech, you get where he's coming from and you genuinely feel that he's in pain, and Quill's obsession with 70's music becomes more understandable when you know his backstory. I think the fact that the actors took their work very seriously made their characters more human, and maybe they needed to be given the alien nature of the cast.

That said, Guardians still delivers on the fun, without societal or political commentary but with a very human set of characters that you want to root for, and maybe that's its greatest strength. It may not be on the complex level of its competitors, but it has more heart.

[Edit]

I want Rocket as my wingman!

On the other hand, the MCU in general is in danger of becoming strictly formula. You could probably have replaced Peter Quill with Tony Stark, and I'm not sure many people would have noticed a difference.

There's a place for both kind of films: entertaining silliness (without becoming mindless) and weighty drama. Which is why it's a GOOD thing the X-Men films aren't part of the MCU. Marvel's light and quippy approach to comicbook movies just wouldn't work as well as Fox's introspection and social commentary. ESPECIALLY because the X-Men comics THEMSELVES are built around a metaphor for intolerance, fear and hatred in the real world (whether the anti-Semitism which led to the Holocaust, the late-1960s Civil Rights movement, or the modern LGBT rights movement). Otherwise EVERYTHING would be the same.

It's frankly only a matter of time before, like the Western craze of the 50s and 60s, the Superhero genre collapses under its own weight. The more variety there is the healthier and longer the boom will be.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: shotgunneeley on August 03, 2014, 09:21:31 AM
Had my doubts when I first saw the previews; had never heard of Guardians and it looked pretty corny. Went and saw it last night after it received such good reviews and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

9/10 rating. Taking off 1 point because the characters routinely defied everything I thought I knew about the vacuum of space...
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: narsus on August 03, 2014, 09:48:32 AM
Had my doubts when I first saw the previews; had never heard of Guardians and it looked pretty corny. Went and saw it last night after it received such good reviews and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

9/10 rating. Taking off 1 point because the characters routinely defied everything I thought I knew about the vacuum of space...

Never read a comic book have you. ;)
Remember they are super heroes and not human, well that and completely fiction (rules don't apply to them).
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Saxman on August 03, 2014, 10:19:00 AM
Had my doubts when I first saw the previews; had never heard of Guardians and it looked pretty corny. Went and saw it last night after it received such good reviews and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

9/10 rating. Taking off 1 point because the characters routinely defied everything I thought I knew about the vacuum of space...

Well, if you ignore the Space Is Noisy and the moisture frosting on Quill's and Gamora's skin (surface moisture would actually boil off instantly since the boiling point of water in a vacuum is virtually nothing) it's actually a bit more accurate than most movies. Vacuum exposure =/= instant death, your blood boiling, or your body suddenly exploding due to the pressure difference. It's completely possible to "cold shirt" the way Quill was doing and survive, ESPECIALLY given the medical technology available (just remember to EXHALE first. Holding your breath would be very bad).

If you watch closely you can even see maneuvering thrusters firing on the various spacecraft, especially on those miners Quill and Rocket use in the middle of the film.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: shotgunneeley on August 03, 2014, 11:08:09 AM
Yep, I know, its a comic book and half the things that happen are very convenient. I was mainly referring to the space walk scene, i thought even for a comic that was a bit of a stretch. But you're right, the only limitations are what the writers imagine.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Arlo on August 03, 2014, 07:30:21 PM
[Andy Griffith voice] GoooOOOoooood Movie. Good movie! [/Andy Griffith voice]
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: FiLtH on August 03, 2014, 10:27:55 PM
  My wife and I went tonight to see it. Knew nothing about it, went in cold. We loved it. Saw it in 3D and after a few minutes after my old orbs settled in, it was great. Every character was unique and funny. The thing I liked best was the visuals. Yes it had a touch of the "Way too much happining at once" thing like Transformers at times, but they didnt overdo it. Seeing the details of the ship in space, really gave you a sense of size to other things, just really well done.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy
Post by: Skyguns MKII on August 05, 2014, 04:09:59 AM
May not be your cup of tea if your not into marvel but i Loved it  :aok. Found it even better than avengers and apparently the same directer is taking over avengers which i hope to be a great choice. a lot of marvel Easter eggs in this one  :noid so be sure to look out for if you dont know already all marvel movies hint at one another in some way as well as the comics. Be sure to stay after credits. Marvel seems to be getting there stuff together over DC considering they were about to go bankrupt and selling character rights to Sony and fox yet now breaking box office records on the regular. I hear that DC is going to try to make a come back with a justice league movie. But personally i believe the damage is done. Dark night was hated even by batman fans do to its lack of accuracy to comics. Marvel all the way.  :cheers: I wanted to know what the fuss was about so i kept up with the movies and comics. The amount of sophistication, detail, and relativity in these short stories blew me away. How they study future concept technologies and include sciences of astronomy, physics, and dimensions in a feasible way. Now i understand what the fuss is about. Its actually very interesting to my surprise. I salute you nerds  :salute